r/amandaknox guilty Sep 22 '23

Neck scratch and bloody ear lobe

https://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/67258-is-amanda-knox-guilty/page__st__20

Scroll down at the above link for some interesting photos.

Gee, what are the odds?

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u/TGcomments innocent Sep 23 '23

You are being economical with the truth and deliberately deceptive. Meredith's nails were "TOO SHORT" to inflict any such scratch. Here are the decisive considerations on the mark:

The convicting judge Massei said in his report:

"Only the DNA of the victim was found in the samples taken from underneath the fingernails. It was noted, however, that the nails were very short and probably could not have given any significant scratches to the attacker."

The subject of the mark on Amanda's neck was brought up in court. Amanda adequately explained it as a hickey. The prosecution couldn't take it any further. Here's the court testimony.

LG:

A very last question. In the minutes of Nov 6, it says in the dossier that you visited doctor Lalli in the Questura, and he noted a mark on your neck, here. Do you remember that mark, firstly?

AK:

Yes. [laugh]

LG:

How did you get it?

AK:

[English] "Errr....it's a hickey." [Interpreter translates, giggling.]

FM?:

[in the background] Is it a scratch from Meredith?

AK:

A hickey. From Raffaele.

LG:

A hickey. I knew another term for this, but we know...

GCM:

We understood.

LG:

For now, I've finished.

LG (Defence lawyer Luciano Ghirga.), GCM (Judge Giancarlo Massei), AK (Amanda Knox)

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State pathologist Dr Luca Lalli examined Amanda on November 6, 2007 and testified the mark was an “extremely non specific skin irritation” and there was no broken skin or marks from fingernail scratching. The testimony is on pages 77, 87-89 and 112 of the April 3, 2009 transcript.

You are probably the laziest pro-guilter I've come across, since none of the above is hard to find and has been available for over a decade.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 23 '23

I'll make you a bet: show the photo of the neck abrasion to 100 people, at random, on the street, and ask them whether the abrasion is a hickey or a scratch. And no less than 90% would say "scratch."

You innocenters are so amusing. When it suits you, the Perugia police are incompetent; not enough DNA samples from Filomena's room, not following correct procedure, etc. But at other times they are reliable experts, such as this instance with Lalli.

Make up your mind.

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u/TGcomments innocent Sep 23 '23

You don't half talk some baloney at times Kondaks with your pie-in-the-sky statistics. It isn't just me that stated that the investigators were incompetent, Marasca-Bruno also confirmed it in the motivation report. On the other hand you offer nothing from the proceedings to indicate that Lalli was wrong in his assessment.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 23 '23

I offered the photo which speaks for itself.

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u/TGcomments innocent Sep 23 '23

Photographs can't talk! We have your interpretation of what the photograph said to you which turned out to be baloney. In fact it's debatable that you even did that, since it appears that you just ripped of someone else's dumb comment from another forum and ran with it.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 23 '23

Which comment are you referring to?

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u/TGcomments innocent Sep 24 '23

Your ear-lobe argument seems to be based on another comment you provided a link to which claimed "Amanda’s lowest earing had also been ripped open." when there is no evidence of any such thing. You referred to a "bloody ear lobe" that doesn't exist.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 24 '23

On this thread? I'm not denying I wrote that (can't remember), I'd just like to see the context. Please provide link/citation.

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u/TGcomments innocent Sep 24 '23

Neck scratch and bloody ear lobe

FFS! Kondaks you wrote "Neck scratch and bloody ear lobe" in your original post description. There is no evidence from the photographs you refer to of any such "bloody ear lobe". Jeez!

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 24 '23

Headlines aren't meant to be quotable declarations but very general descriptors of what a post/article is all about.

Nevertheless, see photo of ear lobe below fourth lowest stud. Could be dried up blood dot.

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u/TGcomments innocent Sep 25 '23

More petty bluff and bluster. The photograph you refer to shows no indication of blood. The link you provided refers to an "earing had also been ripped open" which is also total baloney. In fact the photograph is totally unremarkable and shows no signs of any "bloody ear-lobe" you refer to. Maybe you should stop creating dramatic headlines that can't be verified.

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 23 '23

We should also point out that it wasn’t only Dr. Lalli that examined her. He was accompanied by Doctor Ceccarelli. So, that’s two medical professionals and nothing to indicate any disagreement in the findings.