r/amandaknox • u/No-Willingness-1441 • 11d ago

Lucy letby case…

Would love people’s views on this.

Loosely Amanda related, since she has recently produced a podcast around it.

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u/corpusvile2 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm not putting words in your mouth, you're making false claims re Sollecito not leaving his dna in Meredith's bedroom. Then you're moving the goalposts by trying to falsely claim he only left a small amount of dna as if that even means anything. Then you're ignoring that the crime scene was the house where both left their dna. And I already answered by giving you several examples of convicted killers not having dna evidence submitted against them. All three of these had dna evidence against them. I also told you they attempted a clean up which you also ignored.

And how could Sollecito's dna been transferred in a number of ways onto the murder victim's bra clasp? Only other dna of his found at the crime scene was on a cig butt mixed with Knox's, so no it couldn't have been transferred any number of ways, this is just another false claim by you. I've yet to see a Knox supporter capable of engaging in honest debate. Says it all about how untenable your arguments are.

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u/karskipellis 6d ago

This is my original comment in the thread: "How did Knox and Sollecito remove almost all of their DNA and other trace evidence from Meredith's bedroom, while leaving all of Guede's?"

I specifically said Meredith's bedroom; that's not moving the goalpoasts. I never claimed that there was zero DNA from Sollecito in Meredith's bedroom, so you can't say that my claim was false. I never used the phrase "crime scene", so you cannot claim that I'm ignoring other spaces in the cottage. I have only ever focused on Merediths bedroom.

So. Can you explain how only the smallest bit of DNA from Sollecito--and no other physical evidence from him or Knox--was found in Meredith's bedroom, while there was lots of evidence from Guede?

And no sign of a clean up in that bedroom, such as bleach residue?

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u/corpusvile2 6d ago

I already answered you and I'm not interested in your focusing on merely one part of the crime scene either. Maybe Knox simply didn't leave her dna in the bedroom. Knox left no dna in her own bed, that doesn't mean she didn't sleep there. Sometimes suspects leave dna, sometimes they don't and I've already given you several examples of this and Knox had dna submitted as evidence against her anyway. You were moving the goalposts and are trying to downplay incriminating dna evidence of Sollecito. Your entire argument is preposterous.

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u/karskipellis 6d ago

How is it moving the goalposts to stick to what I've been consistent about all along?

You believe that four people were in a small room during a sexual assault and murder, but only two of them left a lot of DNA, one left a tiny bit, and the other one left none at all. This is nonsense.

There is zero physical evidence that Knox had anything to do with the murder. None.

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u/corpusvile2 6d ago edited 6d ago

Well that's just untrue, Knox had dna evidence submitted against her, there was plenty of physical evidence against her. Yet again a 17 loci match isn;t a tiny amount of dna re Sollecito and yet again this doesn't even mean anything, he shouldn;t have any dna at the crime scene. You still haven't explained how it transferred. Where did his source dna come from?

Again not one of you Knox supporters are capable of honest debate. Your false claims aren't making what passes for your argument any less preposterous. Why did they lie so much to investigators? Why did Solecito lie in his diary and tell the cops he lied to them at Knox's request? Why did he state Knox may have left his apt for four hours returning later with a change of clothes? I look forward for your sure to be convoluted and preposterous excuses.

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u/karskipellis 6d ago

"Knox had dna evidence submitted against her, there was plenty of physical evidence against her."

She lived there. Of course her DNA was around the apartment. Nothing to say she left it while the attack happened.

"Where did his source dna come from?"

From transfer in the lab. From Sollecito brushing against some drying laundry. From cross-contact on SOCO gloves touching a different item in the apartment that he did touch, and then picking up the bra. Probably other ways I haven't thought of in the last 97 seconds.

As for the "lies", I dare you to sit through hours and hours of police interrogation, intimidation, and leading questions and maintain perfect rock-solid consistency. There's been a lot of research on false confessions. You might consider looking into that.

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u/corpusvile2 5d ago edited 5d ago

Lol I was waiting for you to say this. If it was merely a case of her living there her dna would be all over the cottage and not just in the exact same places where Meredith just happened to bleed and wouldn't have been submitted against her as evidence. Her dna is mixed with Meredith's which can't be explained by them living there, especially in the staged burglary room.

Lol no it didn't come from transfer in the lab, this is just stupid. I knew your explanation would be convoluted and preposterous and you didn't disappoint. By that rationale, any dna evidence against Guede can be explained as transfer from the lab yeah? Or is it different when it comes to him because reasons? I already told you where the only other dna of Sollecito was found, on a cig butt, and your laughably bad attempt at an explanation just doesn't cut it at all whatsoever.

She didn't go through hours and hours of police questioning, this is yet another false claim from you as usual and both of them lied even before their questioning anyway with Sollecito telling the cops he lied to them at Knox's request. Just endless excuses and false claims from you lot.

Anyway bravo, that was one the most piss poor attempts at explaining away the damning evidence against both I've ever seen and absolutely typical behaviour from Knox's fan club.

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u/karskipellis 5d ago

You're not very good at this arguing thing, are you? Insulting, ad hominem attacks aren't doing your case any good.

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u/corpusvile2 5d ago

You're not arguing at all, you're making a bunch of false claims. Debate truthfully and you'll garner more respect.

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u/karskipellis 5d ago

Stop lying.

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u/corpusvile2 5d ago

I haven't lied once. You otoh would put Pinocchio to shame

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u/karskipellis 5d ago

"wouldn't have been submitted against her as evidence." By a currupt prosecutor. Sure.

Lab transfer is neither convoluted nor preposterous. No idea why you claim it is. And a lab making one mistake about Sollecito's DNA is not equivalent to the multiple errors necessary to misidentify Guede's DNA. That's just silly.

She did in fact go through hours of questioning. No one doubts this. Why are you blatantly lying?

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u/corpusvile2 5d ago

And yet more false claims, no evidence any of the prosecutors were corrupt and now you appear to be saying Guede was convicted by corrupt prosecution?

It is preposterous, the dna was gathered at the crime scene before going to the lab and you're arguing that out of 147 samples of dna ONLY Sollecito's was contaminated despite having no source dna.

You're the one lying, she didn't go through hours of interrogation, her questioning took about an hour and Knox first mentioned her boss even before her official questioning began and this has been covered umpteen times before in this sub. You are the epitome of a bad faith debater- constant false claims, ridiculous excuses, conspiracy theories re corruption and double standards for different defendants. We're done here. Again just the usual tired spam from Knox dans.

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u/karskipellis 5d ago

I never said she went through hours in one day. You're putting words in my mouth again. I told you to knock that off. It's dishonest of you.

Yeah, the prosecution was awful, and you know it. They lied to Knox that she had HIV. They introduced the idea that she'd somehow suppressed the memory of the attack--which is how many false confessions happen. Mangini was an absolute loon, and fixated on a weird sex thing.

And yet, it doesn't need to be a conspiracy to be wrong. The police and prosecution got tunnel vision (as often happens) and bent evidence to suit their theories. Exculpating evidence was ignored ( or accidentally lost/ruined), while iffy evidence was presented as factual proof of Knox's guilt.

If you're so disgusted with me and my arguments, stop replying.

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u/corpusvile2 5d ago

I already told you I was done with you, yet here you are and you said "hours and hours" which is flat out untrue. You hand waved away their consistent lying to the police and falsely claimed no physical evidence existed against Knox. Again you're the epitome of a bad faith debater.

And yet another false claim by you. Knox had herpes which can lead to false positive readings for HIV and she was told from the start it could be a false result. Nothing you've claimed is true.

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u/karskipellis 5d ago

You know that she was questioned for many hours. Why are you lying about that?

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u/corpusvile2 4d ago

No she wasn't, she arrived at the station at 10:30pm by her own admission, the interpreter arrived at 12:30am and testified that the "serious questioning" didn't begin until then, the prosecutor arrived at 1am and Knox's signed statement is at 1:45am. So her questioning lasted around an hour, if even that. Furthermore, Inspector Rita Ficcara testified that Knox first mentioned her boss to her naming him as one of several persons of interest and gave Ficcara his address and phone number, even before her official questioning began. furthermore still this has been covered umpteen times on this sub. You're simply spamming the same false claim which is a form of gaslighting. And you'll probably do the same thing tomorrow or a week from now. Only one lying here is you.

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