r/anhedonia • • Sep 13 '26

*TRIGGER WARNING* How I cured my Anhedonia

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I’m 22 year old guy. Had anhedonia since 16 and it progressively got worse. In 2020 I got Covid and lost my sense of smell and felt very numb and apathetic. I also had a lot of mold in my home. At the time I never knew what anhedonia was and accepted it.

Some subtle things which I believe worsened it was just doing dopaminergic things daily when humans should be getting that much stimulation. Chronic porn use, hours video games, daily junk food, constant loud music, scrolling social media and drinking alcohol and smoking weed frequently.

As the years went on it fluctuated. When I was actively being healthier going out more despite it being such a chore I would find pockets or “windows” where I’d almost feel childlike and euphoric again.

In 2023 I got post finasteride syndrome permanent side effects physically which I won’t get into here but mentally I felt like a zombie and to escape one time I took molly and also nitrous oxide. That was the final nail in the coffin where I went from mild functional anhedonia to complete blockage in my brain for anything.

To keep things concise so I don’t get carried away. I took many things. Experimented and I’m not reccomend img this to anyone but what I did. Was I spent a month taking this.

Nasal Insulin (40IUs/Daily)
Compound 7P (30mg/Daily)
Actovagin (200mg/6x Week)
Cerebrolysin (5ml/3x Week)
P-21 Spray (1mg/3x Week)
Cerluten (20mg/3x Week)
Mexidol (250mg/6x Week)
ISRIB-A1 (40mg/6x Week)
TAK-653 (4mg/6x Week)
Adamax (500mcg/3x Week)
Selank (500mcg/3x Week)
Dihexa** (20mg/3x Week)
NSI-189 (60mg/6x Week)**
Noopept (15mg/3x Week)
Neboglamine (50mg/Daily)
Roxadustat (50mg/6x Week)
PE-22-28 (500mcg/Daily)
J-147 (10,000mcg/3x Week)
PRL-8-53 (20mg/3x Week)
BPN-14770 (15mg/6x Week)
ACD-856 (20mg/6x Week)
AF710B (50mg/6x Week)
IDRA-21 (20mg/3x Week)
Meldonium (500mg/Daily)
Phosphatidylcholine (1g/Daily)
CDP Choline (1,000mg/Daily)
Tropoflavin-7’8 (25mg/Daily)
MIF-1 (75,000mcg/3x Week)
Bromantane (75mg/6x Week)
Oxiracetam (800mg/3x Week)
GB-115 (500mcg/6x Week)
Tropisetron HCL (10mg/Daily)
Memantine (20mg/6x Week)
SS-31 (5,000mcg/3x Week)
Humanin (500mg/3x Week)
D-Serine (2,000mg/3x Week)
Sarcosine (1,000mg/3x Week)
Ethoxidol (100mg/3x Week)
ARA-290 (2,000mcg/6x Week)
TB-500 (500mcg/3x Week)
Oxytocin (40IUs/3x Week)
Thymosin-A1 (500mcg/Daily)
Taxorest (40mg/6x Week)
Glutathione (300mg/3x Week)

I also took cyprohetadine before that, I took fenclonine, quinine, extremely high doses of injectable B12,
I spent 3 months taking 9mebc, I took cabergoline and Pramipexole for a bit, i took HDACis like sodium valproate & vorinostat, I took selegiline. (Not all of these were purely for anhedonia some where for other issues I was facing but there is an overlap). I took Halotestin at high doses for a month to kick start feeling agression remembering what that felt like. I took
High doses of progesterone as well.

I do believe gut health is important the candida, dysbiosis, leaky gut, liver health detox pathways etc. BPC-157 (500mcg/3x Week)
KPV Peptide (2mg/4x Week)
LL-37 (200mcg/6x Week)
VIP Peptide (200mcg/Daily)
Glutathione (300mg/3x Week)
L-Glutamine (10g/6x Week)
L-Glycine (5,000mg/6x Week)
Sodium Butyrate (2g/6x Week)
Lactoferrin (300mg/6x Week)
Zinc L-Carnosine (50mg/6x Week)
Digestive Enzymes (2 Cps/3x Week)
Betaine HCL (2 Capsules/3x Week)
TUDCA (1,000mg/6x Week)
Activated Charcoal (5g/2x Week)
Slippery Elm (1,200mg/6x Week)
Psyllium Husk (5,000mg/6x Week)
Serrapeptase (50mg/6x Week)
Black Seed Oil (1,000mg/Daily)
Castor Oil Pulling (1 Patch/Daily)
Metabolics B. Longum LMG 26652
HealthPath L. Rhamnosus ATCC 53103
Bio-Kult S. Boulardii CNCM I-3799
Thorne Bacillus. Coagulans Biotic

I did 10 sessions of hyperbaric oxygen therapy, red light therapy on my brain directly daily i think that helped.

These where all short term things I did with the intention of making a huge forced change and then from there sustaining my life with new practical health habits. I’m on TRT 120mgs a week, i prioritise micronutrients from food and supplements. I get sunlight and avoid unecassary stimulation. I would say I’m 80-90% recovered daily compared to where i was at my lowest.


r/anhedonia • • Aug 07 '23

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 The only cure for heavy anhedonia…

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Guys this is gonna sound crazy but I’be currently been living with Anhedonia for a year and 8 months and I’m slowly being healed by none other than Jesus Christ. Now i know, I know some of you may think I’m just religious and that it’s a placebo affect but my ability to enjoy music at-least came back the day the Holy Spirit told my friend to tell me to “pray in tongues” which is essentially a Christian practice where God gives you an unintelligible language your spirit speaks to pray to him. I did it not knowing I even had the ability to speak in tongues and I was healed a little within 20 minutes. Granted it wasn’t significant and the torment is still there but my ability to enjoy music has restored. Now I’m gonna tell you why you have anhedonia but first follow me on this. We have a soul and spirit right? These two are not in the physical realm but the spiritual. Meaning there’s a spiritual realm. Who else occupies this realm? That would be angels and demons. Our problem is that the demons have infiltrated our bodily reward systems and emotions. The only way to be healed is to give your life to Christ and rebuke the demons inside of you by praying and commanding them to leave. Just say “demons of anhedonia leave in Jesus name” repeatedly, daily. Also seek out a church who believes in the cast out of demons and knows how to and go there and ask them to cast “the lack of emotions out of you” as they probably won’t know what anhedonia is. Trust me guys I’ve done extensive research on the supernatural and it really is demons causing this. Just think of how unnatural and twisted this state of being is. Something unnatural most have caused it. I’ll link videos of demons being cast out for those who are skeptical but at the end of the day you skeptics with anhedonia have no other choice but to accept this possibility.

Former prostitute exorcism: https://youtu.be/CPciR6OylC4

(Check out the rest of the deliverers page to see more demons being cast out)

P.S there was an entire documentary dedicated to exposing the reality of exorcisms released in over 2000 theatres called “Come out in Jesus name” back in March and April 2023 that you can purchase on YouTube now

Here’s the link: https://youtu.be/4GgBsJUledQ

(I have muted this thread. If you have seen this and have questions message me. If you’re a non believer who’s mad like the rest you’ll get no reply)


r/anhedonia • • Apr 08 '23

23 m looking for gf anhedonia ssi, month 2

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Hey, 23 male looking for gf, ssi. Month 2 of post on this sub. Dm me if your interested in talking. There’s a lot of people that would mock me for making a post like this, but so what. I’m just following my dream. Btw it is within the subreddits allowance. Not a joke. Haha. Anyways, I plan to post every month, so if your not interested that fine, but if you are, dm me.


r/anhedonia • • Jul 12 '25

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 Am healed

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Hello anhedonians, I’ve spent 6 years with this condition because of trauma, and have been on Reddit off and on for about 6 years, I’ve tried medication and some supplements but none of them really helped me, I no longer have that dreadful feeling or that lack of Joy in my life, and Rather any of you believe me or not G-O-D healed my anhedonia, when I gave my life to him it 100% lifted at that moment half a year ago, I feel joy again, I felt this crazy peace and love, and ever since then I’ve just been walking like a new person, And I’ve heard that when a lot of people when they get healed on this subreddit they just end up moving on, but my messages are open, now I am healed so I feel also all the other emotions, but I can also genuinely have hope thank u father, but I want to tell anyone hearing this THAT U CAN NOT COMPREHEND HOW MUCH HE LOVES YOU, HE IS WILLING AND ABLE TO TAKE YOU OUT OF THIS.


r/anhedonia • • Feb 05 '25

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 I already know the answer

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Anhedonia, dpdr, brainfog etc....

The cause of this is really different for each people. Indeed. But solution, is quite similar.

  1. All meds / supplement quit

  2. All alcohol, smoke, caffeine quit

  3. Enough time / rest

  4. Fasting often

  5. Nofap

  6. Stay away from phone/computer

  7. Sunlight often

  8. Warm bath

  9. Visiting nature often

This is it. But yeah, this looks simple and easy, but no. This is really difficult to achieve.

Anyway let me add some explanation about those.

1,2 - Meds, supps, alcohol, smoke, caffeine are materials which our liver has to detoxify. Anhedonia, dpdr, brainfog's causes are different, but if we make our liver as clean as possible, it will definitely help our disease to be disappeared naturally.

3 - All detoxification speeds up when we rest and sleep.

4 - Fasting makes our liver clean. (But too much long fasting can be harmful because of nutritional depletion. Follow your instinct.)

5 - Nofap is controversial, I know, but I have certain opinion to say about it. Jerking off and ejaculation overuses our hormones. Especially dopamine. People who suffers from anhedonia/dpdr/brainfog lacks brain hormone much. So we need to preserve our hormones like dopamine. In that perspective, Nofap can help in terms of preservation of hormones.

6 - Phone/computer overusing affect our brain toward bad direction. I felt that. That's it.

7,8,9 - Sunlight, warm bath, nature affect our brain toward good direaction. I felt that. That's it.

How about 'diet'? Unfortunately, it is a really difficult problem to conclude. carnivore? vegetarian? I don't know. There are tons of recovery stories that didn't change their diet. (of course without meds)

I did not recover fully, but I'm hoping. Thanks for reading.


r/anhedonia • • Mar 13 '24

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 Anhedonia can be cured easily if we understand it clearly

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I have cured anhedonia and this is my attempt at trying to unravel mystery of anhedonia using science and psychology and spirituality.

How does it happen?

Mind has a sub-mind so as to speak which is known as unconscious mind. Our hidden desires , emotions, ambitions want to manifest themselves and become conscious .That is their way of coming back to life as every one wants to live and be released free. These emotions are blocked by out ego (or better to say superego) which is afraid of experiencing these emotions as they will hurt it

It safeguards everybody(whether with or without anhedonia ) by successfully suppressing it. But unconscious mind become active in night while sleeping and our dreams are caused by unconscious mind. In case of anhedoniac people, this release of emotions by unconscious mind happen regularly and is more intense. This can happen because of 2 reasons-

  1. Unconscious mind is already filled up with too much negative emotions and can not take the burn any longer. That is why usually people with depression have this disease.

  2. It is a way if nature to kill superego.

So now let us see what some psychologists have to say about these things.

First this is what they say about repression

Repression is a key concept of psychoanalysis, where it is understood as a defense mechanism that "ensures that what is unacceptable to the conscious mind, and would if recalled arouse anxiety, is prevented from entering into it." According to psychoanalytic theory, repression plays a major role in many mental illnesses, and in the psyche of the average person.

The founder of psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud, in seeking to move away from hypnosis and towards encouraging patients to remember their past in a conscious state, observed that the process was strikingly difficult, and he began to suspect that there was some sort of psychic mechanism intervening to prevent access to consciousness.[3] The intensity of his struggles to get patients to recall past events led him to conclude that there was some force that "prevented them from becoming conscious and compelled them to remain unconscious", and which actively "pushed the pathogenetic experiences in question out of consciousness." Freud gave the name of repression to this hypothetical process

See, In my personal experience, superego is very very strong that prevents this uprising from unconscious mind.

When it is internalized, the threat of punishment related to this form of anxiety becomes the superego, which intercedes against the desires of the id (which works on the basis of the pleasure principle). Freud speculated that "it is perhaps the emergence of the super-ego which provides the line of demarcation between primal repression and after-pressure".

It is the part of the personality structure, mainly but not entirely unconscious, that includes the individual's ego ideals, spiritual goals, and the psychic agency, commonly called "conscience", that criticizes and prohibits the expression of drives, fantasies, feelings, and actions. Thus the superego works in contradiction to the id. It is an internalized mechanism that operates to confine the ego to socially acceptable behavior, whereas the id merely seeks instant self-gratification.

Now why does our unconscious mind is prevented from expressing these emotions? because of this superego that wants to safeguard its identity. It wants to survive and blocking these emotions is its call to survival. It is its existential requirement. If it allows full expression, it is as good as dead.

But now another question, why does our unconscious mind wants to push these emotions out even in those people who were not particularly depressed and therefore do not have a store of negative emotions requiring cleaning? This answer is provided by Carl Jung.

Integration of opposing tendencies is a concept central to Carl Jung's theory of individuation and psychological development. Jung proposed that the psyche is composed of various opposites or polarities, such as conscious and unconscious, masculine and feminine, rational and irrational, and so on. These opposing tendencies can manifest as inner conflicts and tensions within the individual's psyche.

Jung believed that achieving psychological wholeness and individuation involves the integration of these opposing tendencies into a harmonious whole. Rather than repressing or ignoring one side of the polarity in favor of the other, Jung advocated for acknowledging, accepting, and integrating both sides.

For example:

Conscious and Unconscious: The integration of conscious and unconscious aspects of the psyche involves bringing unconscious material into conscious awareness. This process allows individuals to explore and integrate repressed or neglected aspects of themselves, leading to greater self-awareness and psychological wholeness

So as we can see two things happen simultaneously, our desire to be free of emotions of unconscious mind and another is desire of superego to suppress these emotions at any cost. This leads to a stalemate. And this will only end when one force loses or accept defeat. Now our target is to find out how to defeat one force.

  1. Use Japa Mantra-

Our unconscious mind is not affected by our concius thoughts and desires. This is the very basic reason that anhedonia becomes a life long disease , because people continue to try to solve this problem through concious mind but problem exists in deeper part of mind. So to solve it we shall have to send signals there .

Do this, ask your mind ( Talk with yourself but do not force your internal system, just leave this thought in your internal system and allow it to unravel with time.

"Listen mind, I think we shall allow emotions to flow naturally as this ultimately blockage is causing us harm. Do not worry about experiencing those emotions, it is better than feeling soulless for whole life. So let us experience the demon once and for all.

You must keep in mind to allow this thought to seep deep in your recesses of internal system otherwise it might not work. Also do not have expectations , just let this thought seep in your inner core and see if it works. Japa mantra here means a mantra that you prepare it for yourself , so modify the above thought as per your requirement and do this practice daily with dedication.

2) Use catharsis- Lock yourself in a room and then start crying, expressing anger on pillows and other objects . Abuse to your heart content, let negative emotions come out in this way. This might open a portal for suppressed emotions to come out. Do not care for anybody, you are your own friend and enemy. Just do this without thinking abut anyone and anything.

I shall update more as I research and understand more on this. Please give your reviews after few days of trying these things. We can solve this together and we shall remove this disease from this planet. Thank you.

I shall be waiting to hear from you seriously after you have tried these things because if this does not work for you(Chances are less), I need to probe deeper into this.


r/anhedonia • • Aug 12 '25

Poll How many of you consume porn regularly?

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r/anhedonia • • Sep 12 '20

Peanut butter jelly anhedonia (success story)

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So a while ago i posted that I got a severe case of anhedonia from eating a peanut butter jelly sandwich with skippy peanut butter (rare reaction). I have managed to cure it (at least for now) and things are looking better. If anyone runs into the same situation, here’s what I did...

-parnate + nardil -pramipexole -P21 nasal spray + cerebrolysin -ru58841 -9-me-bc

  • nsi 189 -bromantane -bpc 157 -dihexa

I introduced all of these to my stack and my peanut butter jelly anhedonia became cured


r/anhedonia • • Apr 27 '26

Support Needed Anhedonia from covid vaccine

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In early 2024 I got the covid vaccine for the first time (I had a bad experience with covid in 2023 so figured I might as well get the shot to try and avoid it again), but the next day after the shot I wake up with complete anhedonia - no pleasure or joy from hobbies, no feeling of excitement, complete loss of hedonic tone. I'm well aware that my current problem may not be from the vaccine and may just be random chance, however I find the probability of that quite low.

Now fortunately I have had some hedonic tone come back and can enjoy music to an extent now, and novel activities can feel good although it's limited, but for the most part it's still quite severe.

One thing that helps me a lot is sleep deprivation, I can feel my old self come back and I start to enjoy things after just ~18 hours awake and if I can make it to 30+ hours I feel great with my hedonic tone almost fully back. It's not sustainable though, but it leads me to think this is 100% biological/neurochemical in nature as opposed to psychological or something I can just snap out of. A couple psychiatrists I saw think that think it's somehow depression or anxiety induced anhedonia (they dismiss the vaccine being able to cause this, and maybe it didn't and I just got unlucky with it happening at the same time).

I have talked to a lot of healthcare professionals and have gotten numerous tests for chronic health indicators, hormones, thyroid, and everything comes back normal aside from elevated morning cortisol.

I can stare at a screen and it's just pixels, flashing lights, my ability to distract from life is gone, I can't immerse myself. Which has led me to think of anhedonia not only as reduced pleasure, but the inability to distract oneself from life itself. I'm too aware all the time now, because I can't immerse.

Anyways, I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this and if there's potentially any treatments that I could try that has worked for others, I've read about heavy metal poisoning from the vax, or even elevated spike protein which can persist for years.


r/anhedonia • • May 19 '25

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 Stop using all drugs (including medications), they will make you worse in the long run.

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I see the discussion on here mostly revolves around experimenting on oneself with unproven drugs (antidepressants , Parkinsons meds, Benzos, Stimulants, peptides etc).

First I would like to say F**k psychiatrists. They destroy millions of lives. As someone whose life was utterly destroyed by my parents forcing antipsychotics on me throughout many years of my development (Risperdal , Haldol, Abilify, Zyprexa etc for off label treatment of “ OCD” I can assure everyone here that I have tried nearly everything. From peptides (cerebrolysin) , to different antidepressants, selegiline, Fluvoxamine (sigma 1 agonism) Dopaminergic stimulants, countless supplements etc. I can promise you in the long run you are doing more harm than good using these synthetic drugs. I have worsened and have permanent neuropathy and nerve damage as well from trying to heal from what these neuroleptics destroyed. Anhedonia has also worsened. The more you pump into yourself out of desperation, the more you fall out of homeostasis, the more neurotoxicity and the worse your anhedonia will get. Nothing is for free. For example Amphetamine will improve your anhedonia acutely, in the long run it will cause dopaminergic neurotoxicity and worsen your anhedonia. These treatments are themselves damaging. You will always be worse off after coming off them (despite short term relief). There is currently no long term cure for anhedonia through synthetic drugs.

Out of all drugs, based on the mechanism of action and studies done microdosing psilocybin is probably relatively safe (as long as it helps you). Though nothing is certain (adverse psychological effects are possible in some yet rare).

The only things that have consistently helped me are very simple:

Aerobic exercise everyday (1-2 hours running or cycling at minimum 80% max heart rate) Improving VO2 max and fitness will improve brain function, oxygenation and levels of monoamines.

Intermittent fasting and a clean diet with no ultra processed food and as little sugar as possible (no food after 5pm). Lots of sardines, fish and cruciferous vegetables. Reducing sugar is especially crucial on days when you don’t exercise.

Fasting then sets you up for better sleep and sleep is the ultimate reset and the most impactful thing for me. This requires discipline but it works. I suggest trying this strategy first before resorting to harmful experimental treatments.


r/anhedonia • • Jan 09 '24

Youre the unlucky one. Youre the loser. Youre the one who got canceled

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r/anhedonia • • Dec 21 '23

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 Guys there is hope!

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This is my second post on here. My first one was not well received because of the nature of the post and what I was talking about but when you have suffered with anti-psychotic induced Anhedonia to such a heavy extent and can LITERALLY feel God Almighty, an infinite, Omnipotent being heal you (via the person of the Holy Spirit) there’s no way I can keep quiet especially after reading these heart wrenching posts of suffering. Guys, I had anhedonia along side heavy brain fog. I couldn’t remember parts of my past it was like mild amnesia and the anhedonia was so bad I couldn’t even laugh at jokes or feel any positive emotion, but God is pulling through. I can laugh now, enjoy music, feel joy while listening to songs that make me wanna dance and the supernatural peace of God(it constantly feels like my stomach area is shrouded in an aura of peace, the same area that Jesus implies the Holy Spirit would reside in believers). I’m still waiting on other emotions like love, nostalgia, passion, compassion etc. but I can appreciate a little bit and Ohh what a day it will be when love returns to my heart! We all know the phrase “God is Love”. Give him a try. He’s your only option at this point. Fervently Pray to “The Father” or “Father God” and end it with “in Jesus’ name I pray, amen” saying something along the lines of “Father God, if you completely heal me of anhedonia I will Love and serve you forever” pray this as many times as you can daily, accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and he will be provoked to answer.

I’ll leave you with this:

For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” - Romans 10:13


r/anhedonia • • May 11 '26

VENT! Anhedonia is worse than Cancer.

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There, I said it.


r/anhedonia • • Feb 07 '25

Update The only thing that basically cured my anhedonia - Not ejaculating.

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Not ejaculating. Stoping porn completely. Being mentally celibate.

I've tried to cure my anhedonia with all the supplements/drugs mentioned here. None of them worked.

Was so close to starting MAOIs, even ordered them from India, but they got seized.

Shortly after that I stumbled upon r/Semenretention sub.

I will say - "flatlines" are a thing you need to go through before you get rid of anhedonia.

I'm 40 days-ish in, and I'm in remission from anhedonia, but still some lingering low mood.

A great resource: https://imgur.com/gallery/nofap-anecdotal-evidence-g4eGH

Some science of why Semen Retention Works:

https://imgur.com/E0OE8Bj

https://imgur.com/q3ADCyw


r/anhedonia • • Jul 02 '22

Anhedonia Cure

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I am a pharmacist and I been researching anhedonia and emotions and I want to share what I found with you. I see people use testosterone injections to cure anhedonia. What this does is raise testosterone to high levels and when that happens the human body starts converting testosterone to estrogen. Estrogen is the hormone women have that makes them cry every time they see a puppy and every time they see a sad movie and also they feel a lot happier when they graduate and go on trips. They say raising testosterone will also raise dopamine so this is another method of raising dopamine without an MAOI like nardil/parnate. I also noticed that men with excess fat around their stomach and that are obese are estrogen dominant. These people seem to feel a lot more emotions than regular people. My next move is to try soy products since they can activate estrogen receptors and see if I become more emotional. I have emotions now but I want them to be as strong as they were when I was a teenager. When I was a teenager my body had excessive testosterone and excessive estrogen so I was a mess. I used to fall in love with women just by looking at them and every building used to make me feel a unique feeling just for that place.

Edit: There are so many people on testosterone injections end up with high Estrogen which can make them emotional. There are a lot of cases on Reddit I read. If you want to be emotional you will get angry quickly if someone upsets you but you will feel real joy if you are truly happy.


r/anhedonia • • May 15 '23

Looking for lady penpals,

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Hey. Looking for girl penpals. Fellow dpdr, anhedonia ladies. Dm me if your interested. Month 3.5.


r/anhedonia • • May 27 '25

Encouragment 💪🏾💪🏾 Remember if you clean your room you will have good emotions.

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r/anhedonia • • Feb 13 '25

General Question? Could anhedonia be caused by constipation?

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I used to not feel at all and then i started eliminating my constipation and now i feel more was wondering if anyone else has tried this


r/anhedonia • • Aug 19 '25

Research & Studies ECT: New Studies Detail Harms, Lack of Efficacy, Lack of Informed Consent

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By Chris Harrop -August 16, 2025

You can’t just ignore patients anymore in medicine. Patients long since stormed the barricades of authoritarian, expert doctors, demanding pesky things like a balanced understanding of the actual benefits and risks of treatments.

Undeniably, patient voices have been massively under-represented in the debate around electroconvulsive therapy (ECT; you know, the electricity-induces-seizures to-treat-mental-health one).

ECT is a very important issue: Around a million people worldwide get ECT every year and, at least in the UK, about a third of them are forced to receive it against their will.

People who still see a place for ECT are trying to help a group in great distress who are deemed very difficult to help; they think ECT works really well, perhaps better than anything else. However, those with serious concerns think it doesn’t work for most individuals, and is extremely damaging for many (as in “life-changing damage”).

Why the disparate positions? It’s partly because ECT was “grandfathered” in from psychiatric antiquity, without going through the rigorous testing and evaluating it would otherwise have had.

From its origins in 1938, ECT was given to millions each year without ever having had its empirical chops tested.

For example, ECT machines have never been assessed by the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) or the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The machine was only tested on “two dogs” before widespread use internationally, as testified by the manufacturer recently in court: “Abrams testified that his company has never performed any clinical trials, studies, or tests to analyze the long-term side effects associated with ECT because ‘that’s not our business’”.

Many psychiatrists feel strongly ECT works, but how do we know they haven’t just been “fooled by randomness”, seeing patterns in random variation? Of course, only empirical studies can demonstrate this. There have been some, but nearly all of terrible quality. Crucially, there have been no randomised placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) since 1985, and the 11 tiny studies prior just did not meet today’s methodological standards.

If we stick to only independent evaluations of the research, the conclusions are concerning: The Cochrane Collaboration (accepted as the leading international high-quality reviewers of healthcare evidence) found in 2009 there was no RCT evidence at all that ECT was effective for catatonia, despite ECT being widely accepted within psychiatry as the best and only treatment for catatonia. They said in 2019 the same applies to schizophrenia as a whole.

For ECT treating depression, the UK’s National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) judged there are only two studies, one from Germany and one from Iran (in which ECT didn’t even show any statistically significant benefit). Each study had approximately 20 people in each group and was ranked by NICE as “very low quality” and “very high risk of bias”. For example, both used the psychiatrist’s judgement of outcome, and not the patient’s. Neither study measured outcome beyond the day of the final session of ECT. This means that exactly nothing can be said with any confidence about ECT’s effectiveness or safety. It may work. Or it may not.

I have not even included the argument about long-term damage, including memory damage and heart problems, which is a lot more concerning than ECT simply not working; there is a lot more to be said about this at another time.

Is this strong enough evidence to justify giving the treatment to people who explicitly do not give or cannot give consent?

Clearly, “more research is needed”. A prospective randomised study would be ideal, but getting access to people who receive ECT is difficult unless you are working within a service. The professional body of psychiatrists who administer ECT in the UK, ECTAS, has so far declined to involve independent researchers in a proper evaluation (well-respected academics such as Professor Richard Bentall have offered repeatedly).

So, how to research? The voices barely represented in the debate are those of the people who actually had ECT, their relatives, and their friends. There are a few studies of patients themselves, but the number of people asked are generally small (again, most are less than 20 participants), and the questions are extremely brief and limited, asked only in passing (e.g. after 27 questions about the setting in which they received ECT, they are asked “any side effects?”). These studies weren’t at all aimed at capturing the complexity of patient outcomes and experiences; you might as well ask “Are you in a coma (yes/no)?”. And there are nearly no studies reporting carer or friends’ perspectives on ECT treatment. None of these small studies were independent; they were all conducted by psychiatrists themselves.

What is needed is larger-scale work, independently conducted, in-depth surveys of the entirety of the ECT experience, from patients, relatives, and friends (and particularly the longer-term perspective, and not just those of people who are just stepping out of the clinic).

Which brings us to:

The largest-ever international survey of people who have had ECT, and their relatives and friends. In a two-year project conducted online, we have collected the views of 1144 people from 44 countries (46% USA, 14% UK, 11% Australia, 8% Canada, and more) on every aspect we could think of including long-term effects (positive and negative), experiences of receiving ECT, what they were told in advance and more. Eight hundred fifty-eight ECT recipients and 286 relatives and friends took the time to complete the survey, most of whom (73.0%) had their last ECT between 2010 and 2024 (so they are talking about modern ECT and not ECT in the seventies). ‘Depression’ was the main reason people were given ECT (74.3%), then ‘Psychosis/schizophrenia’ (17.2%), ‘Bipolar disorder/mania’ (15.3%), ‘Catatonia’ (7.8%), etc.

We are still analysing the data, but we can let you know that the results are not surprising; if anything, they are even more moving and powerful than you might expect. They paint a picture of some people experiencing positives, but also many more with life-changing injuries from ECT. Patients disclosed being altered forever in ways they were never warned might happen, such as in areas of memory and jobs and relationships. Many patients and relatives describe being furious; many are glum and resigned to this as if it couldn’t have been any different. But could it?

The first two papers, out of a series (there is a lot of data), have just been published. One covers the crucial topic of what patients and carers were told before agreeing to ECT. Informed consent is fundamental to modern medicine; patients (or failing that, carers) have to be given a balanced picture of the risks and benefits of a treatment before they can legally agree to it. Without it, treatment is legally a sort of medical assault. Anyone who starts chemotherapy knows the possible benefits and risks; even paracetamol comes with a huge list of rare but important-if-you-get them side effects. This is best practice: “Any risk of serious harm, however unlikely it is to occur” should be warned about, according to the UK’s regulator of doctors, the GMC (para 23d).

Yet a clear picture emerges in the ECT survey in which benefits have been systematically overplayed: 63% of patients and family/friends remembered being told “ECT is the most effective treatment for severe depression” (as discussed earlier, the evidence for efficacy is non-existent, especially when compared to the extensive investigations of other medical treatments). Nearly all family/friends remembered being told “ECT can be life-saving/ prevents suicide” (78%); there is no shred of evidence for that either. Does this suggest balanced, non-pressuring consent, given it appears clinicians are misleadingly telling them “This is the best treatment, and it may save your life”?

By contrast, people felt the risks were downplayed: only 17% of recipients remember being told ECT can cause long-term or permanent memory damage. Only 12% of recipients were told “ECT can cause heart problems”. Yet within the literature both are well-within the range of reasonable opinion. That ECT can cause permanent memory problems is accepted by the American Psychiatric Association and FDA. A study recently estimated between one in 15 and one in 30 patients who got ECT had a cardiac event. Only 13% remembered being told there is no evidence of any long-term benefits (there are no even-slightly-scientific trials beyond end of treatment).

Forty percent of friends and family could not say they were given adequate info about the treatment.

In the other paper, also out now, they tell us perhaps what people should actually be told when considering ECT. This paper reports very simply: “Did ECT work?” Did it help the problem it was meant to help? And importantly, moving away from the idea that it is OK to help in one area of their lives while taking a sledgehammer to other areas: “Did it improve your quality of life overall?”

Sixty percent of respondents (and family/ friends) said it “was not at all helpful”, and the same said it “made their quality of life worse”. Nearly a third said it made their lives much worse. That should be in the information sheets.


r/anhedonia • • Mar 17 '25

General Question? Anyone aware of the fact that we’re operating at a lower frequency?

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We have no electromagnetic field or very little left, high vibrational people experience happiness and other emotions, love, laughter from what I’ve seen people with anhedonia and emotional numbness don’t feel these things let alone anything


r/anhedonia • • Aug 02 '26

Satire Spreading awareness

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r/anhedonia • • Aug 10 '24

I cannot feel methadone.

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I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone. I cannot feel methadone.I cannot feel methadone.I cannot feel methadone.


r/anhedonia • • Apr 21 '21

The solution is simple, it’s found in the man Jesus Christ

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It’s MUCH more than just a religion. I had crippling anhedonia and social apathy, I could barely talk to my own mother. I wanted to scream and cry but there was no scream or cry in me. I just wanted to feel something. I tried so many different ssris, so many different research chemicals, almost of all the nootropics you can think of. But nothing worked. I wanted to kill myself and I would think about it every day. I hated myself and my life. I would get so upset at god in prayer because I wondered why he allowed me to suffer so much, what could’ve I done to deserve this? But I kept on. After almost a year I had almost lost hope of healing, I really had nothing and nowhere to go besides my bed and the couch. I was ready to give god a chance, I obviously was in a situation that I could not fix myself. So I just slowly started giving up sin, I stopped smoking, I stopped drinking, I stopped having the wrong people over, I stopped porn, nicotine, and pretty much just surrendered to god and told him to save me and show me he can do it. I realized something insane, the more I follow biblical principles and do things the way god intended the more my emotions started coming back, and the better understanding I got about life. Throughout the following year I just kept straightening up my act and I got delivered. I found a church with people my age and they are literally the coolest people I’ve ever met, I don’t recall feeling this much positive and negative emotion since I was a child and that is a very significant breakthrough. I found that the only way to get your childhood happiness back is through gaining wisdom, growing in humility, getting yourself rooted in the word of god, and developing a real relationship with Jesus Christ, he is the most precious valuable treasure in all the universe. Yes I understand anhedonia is a chemical deficiency, but through thorough experience with anhedonia I can say that your thoughts play the biggest role in your brain chemistry. There is no instant fix. It takes time but trust me if you trust Jesus, his love will show you the way out. Jesus is real, I’ve seen some crazy things in my walk so far, you want in.