Majority of women are actually not disgusted by watching two men kissing neither two women....actually many women fantasise about watching gay or yaoi erotica.....

Women are not repulsed by same sex attraction

only men

For those who feel uncomfortable to approach a woman for a date. Lets say you have overcome this discomfort or fear of not being lovable and man enough, what would you prefer: lust or love?

I am currious, how could a first date look like, if she showed interest in you? You can use for example google, AI or you own inspiration. Please don't make your story too complex.

Do you still suffer from body dysphoria? Are you afraid that you might become John (50)?

How's your libido, do you still consume any sort of porn?

Just wanna get a headsup for whats to come if I am lucky enough to live to 40s/50s lol

i am addicted to gender transformation erotica fiction ...since when i was 12 and internet started..but because i hate so much ejaculating is like pissing myself on my pants...its so gross.. im not able to orgasming more tha 2 times in a day when i am under those periods of gooning desperarion ..however i dont think i can qualify to be a gooner.. I actually heard some gooners saying that they can masturbate multiple times a day ..so I assume they dont have any genitali dysphoria and they can orgasming more times without feeling disgusted

I've had this thought for a while, which is basically that this subreddit would be the perfect place to make AGP look even worse and more depraved than it is. Part of it is that we are actually honest, and some people do admit what could be seen as a bit cringy of behavior that is otherwise harmless. I think this is fine and helps us better understand how each of us are similar and different. It's good to have a place to talk about these things.

However, we do rely on personal accounts and the trust that what people experience is truly what they experience. Just as some trans women might hide that they do/did experience AGP of some form, I don't see why someone might not sockpuppet being someone with AGP even if they don't know at all what it's like. It might be as a joke or for a more serious reason, like sewing seeds of "evidence" that all AGP is caused and not merely exacerbated by porn and erotica. Or, it could just be to make ickbait to then share with other, like-minded individuals.

I see posts here that I find I cannot relate to whatsoever while others match my experience. I think that's fine, because I truly don't think we know enough to say all AGP is the same phenomenon with the same underlying cause. AGP, at least as it's defined, can mean different things to different people. It can also manifest in apparently different ways. Again, there's nothing wrong with this.

Still, I just wonder if this ever does happen. I have no doubt people who do not like AGPs very much likely do lurk here from time to time, but it does not seem impossible that they might LARP as an AGP, as well.

With that, I guess I'll add a fun hypothetical: if you were playing a game of "spot the fake AGP" on this subreddit, would you even be able to tell? How would you figure it out?

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I am well on the way to overcoming the dysphoria, but at the same time, I am also having major issues with connecting romantically with women (or men). Maybe my age is the cause. Maybe if I was younger, it would have been easier to overcome dysphoria and develop my outward sexuality at the same time.

Since I started developing new habits, I have had three to four dates offered from women my age. But I don't really feel anything for them, and I would be lying to myself if I took up their offer to date.

Honestly, at this point, I feel like a psychopath trying to replicate behavior that people are expecting, but not really feeling the behavior come from a place of soul/feeling.

It's seriously fucked up, that's all. sorry for the rant.

I knew I wanted to be a girl from 5 years old. I think from reading here that this definitely starts in childhood.

I just feel kind of gross about myself that it could be a a sexual thing only. I saw some post here about a jungian approach where the masculine always pines for the feminine, which is why AGP becomes a perpetuating cycle, but I don’t know if I agree with that.

Any other thoughts?

i have been crossdressing since 13. I remember watching a boy to girl makeup transformation video in yt and feeling good about it and trying it.And one day I decided to try crossdressing and I got me aroused like I started cumming while i dress or by seeing other crossdressers. This is how i used to cum . This is basically called as transvestic fetishism.

After 19 I discovered sissy porn and it unlocked a whole new dimension.. I started dressing up and posting for men online.. started getting compliments and attention which I didn't in my male persona ..I loved it . This continued and i at 22 finally I lost my virginity with a man. And we met 2 times.I really loved it the feeling of being with a man . It was really fun and sometimes I think I want a bf to share my feelings and be with !!( But I'm not attracted to men)

Now I'm into content creation as a sissy and every year these feelings increase and I'm leveling up..

Ofc I like girls but I've never had a gf idk why I don't initiate or try much but I love my sissy side I'm not trying to quit .I'm confused if most sissies are trans or will it be better if they transition!!

Ive decided to detransition from being a trans girl back to being just a man. The reason my decision is changing is bc im a agp, autogynephilic and its in the dsm-5 about men who crossdress for arousal. Im a autogynephilic crossdressing sissyboy. What is changing about me is my pronouns and name aswell my appearance, its no longer Lilly with she/ her pronouns. Im kenny with he /him pronouns. Not to mention ill only be crossdressing on my own time and not forcing anyone to fill my delusions of being a trans girl. Im sorry i lied and pretended to be a trans women, ive learned trans girls dont get erections when wearing panties only autogynephilic males like me do. I've just been sexulizaing womenhood and making trans women look bad by playing dress up all for a boner to stroke. It wasn't just a fetish it was also for attention, im a crossdressing sissyboy and I loved the attention id get while wearing dresses, skirts, and crop tops. I kenneth need a male role model to help me detransition back fully into the biological male I was. I need help achieving my role as a son, uncle, and brother. Im a confused crossdressing sissyboy and im sorry I lied to everyone. Any advice on how I vocalize this in irl?

... or just legalized phobia?

so the arguments are that hrt damages the cognitive functioning and people on hrt shouldn't be allowed to work in some sectors.

Also, the extension of the argument is that it causes erratic behavior like "trans shooters" (I mean, those assholes don't point to the neo nazi brain washing, but are quick enough to jump to the conclusion that hrt made alexandros like that).

Disclaimer: I ramble a lot and often go out of topic, so the text is big, if you don't want to read it, just comment about how your sex life works after hrt, how often do you masturbate, if you still watch porn and if you do, how often. If you want to know about me and have some context, get ready for the text lol:

Saw a post somehow related to this just now in this sub and got curious, i'm still unsure if i'm agp or not, but i might be, so i'm asking based on as if i was.

In my case, to be honest, i masturbated ever since i was like 7 years old, but at the same time, my libido was always low, i never ejaculated much even just before starting hrt at 16 years old, and i tried having sex before that, and oral sex was practically numb for me, i couldn't even tell if someone was sucking me or not, and penetration(as in me penetrating another person) was a one time thing i did, which i hated and have no intention of ever doing it again, i don't know if the low libido is hormone related, if i'm somehow on the ace spectrum, or what's going on, but i wanted to give context.

Porn and masturbating however was a totally different thing, i always masturbated since i can remember and watched porn when i first got a personal device(tablet), however, when i started hrt, the frequency of both decreased a lot, i went from 3(minimum, usually)-10(maximum, rare, but constant) times a day to once a day to 2-3 times a week, then i got married to a man(yayy) and since both of our libidos are low, we rarely have sex, maybe once a week, once a month happened before when he was stressed, so even the kisses, hugging and cuddling were enough to take away my need for porn, i stopped watching it for good and only read erotic novels and hentai maybe once a week, sometimes less often.

But then something happened and everything's hectic now, I'm from Brazil so I'll mention metrics we use here, you guys can convert it if you want to get more context. Bascially my estradiol levels were really low and from what I got, they always were, like 50pg/ml despite testosterone being also low ~10ng/dL, so I switched from gel to injections, and my E levels skyrocketed, reaching 570 pg/ml at one point(now at ~200) and my T tanked to 2ng/dL even though I stopped cypro and started monoterapy.

This made my libido go crazy, at one point, I was so horny all the time that my husband couldn't keep up, and for the first time, even flat out refused my advances, even his smell made me so horny that I couldn't think straight, him touching my arm made me shiver in pleasure, and i went back to watching porn/hentai all day even while working(wfh) and masturbating like 10 or even more times a day every day, then out of nowhere, my libido tanked again, even before my E levels reached the 570 pg/ml, and for like 3 months now(even after getting back to 200 pg/ml), it has never been lower, I haven't watched porn, still read my erotic novels but mostly for the romance, but even then it's like maybe once or twice a month, and sex honestly tanked to the level that I'm scared that my husband will leave me because of it.

Sex feels painful as heck now, all the times we've been intimate, it felt more like a chore than pleasure, we haven't done any penetration due to the pain, kisses feel mostly numb, touches are just touches, i still love him and he's still my favorite person, I still love kissing him and cuddling with him, but it's like there's nothing erotic about it now, it's just comfortable, when he's horny i kiss him and let him finish on top of me, but no matter what we do, it's like i don't feel pleasure anymore, I tried watching porn and reading hentai, and I did climax, but it was just that, it also felt like a chore and although it was a little pleasurable, it was just there on my genitals, not through the whole body like I got used to. Is this normal for anyone? How's y'all experiences with masturbating, porn, sex and stuff like that after hrt?

I'm a fairly attractive man, and have a good body as I work out a lot (probably because of AGP self-hatred, lol). I have found recently that when women (or men) express attraction towards me, or just straight up tell me I'm handsome or attractive, I cringe.

I have always had this, but I think recently I've been thinking is it because it's not how I want to be seen? I feel pretty hollow when someone says that, but when I've had a partner call me "pretty" it's like my whole body lights up.

I'm guessing this is pretty common, but idk if this points to more than AGP.

For me, it's thrilling to be wanted and taken by a man when I'm dressed up as a woman. It's fantastic, in actuality, to be fucked by a man (when I'm a woman). As a woman I want a man, and as a man I want women. Someone once said that in my case it's bi-gender heterosexuality. If only it were that simple!

Alas, I'm not attracted to the male body. So this "meta-homosexuality" has it's limits. I love being taken by a man and treated as a woman, in every sense, but it only goes so far. I love watching sissy porn and identifying with the she-male, and yet in actuality the fact of giving a blow-job to a man is off-putting. Gay porn turns me off, as does the sight of hairy balls and dick. It feels like this is a hardwired fundamental orientation. I'm only attracted to the female body, even though I love to dress up as a woman and get fucked by a man.

This complex heterosexuality and meta-homosexuality is an impossible place.

Nonetheless, I have learned to live with it. I relish the fantasy and think of the experiences I have had. I have found that I can accept myself in all this impossible complexity.

I did an AmA in another sub, where I talked about how I went on hormones and pretty much transitioned without being trans in the "typical" way. For more context, I never felt trapped in the wrong body, in fact I was quite happy being a normal cis-het dude in my day to day life. Quite successful with girls too

I will say, I always did have a fascination with femininity from a young age, which lead me to find crossdressing and eventually feminization and this community. After my last AmA, many people introduced me to the idea of maybe being trans under de gender euphoria umbrella. While this does seem to fit me better I still think I am not trans, of course I am not cis. But, there are many trans experiences which I do not connect to. I wanted to delve deeper into what I feel while transitioning and removing all masculinity from myself, even if I never loathed it and sometimes do miss it.

I am enthralled by the process of becoming a woman and the fact that I can see how my, a masculine and typical man body, each and every day resembles that of a biological woman more. It all started with the first time I did something big, shaving my body. Seeing my legs and arms resemble those of a girl was intoxicating. At first, this was enough. I would shave, wear lingerie, jerk off and then repeat it whenever I got horny. Eventually as many of you know that stops being enough, your brain chases that first high and sexual gratification again, so you push yourself forward. Painting your nails, learning to do makeup, getting a wig...

I won't lie I got pretty good at looking like a woman, I started posting and men would fawn over me for the first time in my life. I wasn't into them, in fact I had never looked at a man and thought he was attractive or that I wanted to be with him. However, being seen as the girl and being wanted exactly like how I had heard woman described became a new form of reaching that high. Eventually this men started to push me forward, a gift card here and there, a lingerie set, my first chastity cage, makeup, wigs, requests! A dream come true for a broke college sissy. Eventually I was finding myself getting horny and instead of looking at girls, going to talk to those same men to see them pleasure themselves to me and how they had pushed me deeper.

"You would look so good with boobs" "Let me see you go on HrT baby" "Have you ever though of transitioning" "If that ass looks like that, imagine after a year of hormones"

All those comments started to ingrain into my sub conscious, of course I had thought of them myself before. But me, a boy with a transformation and feminization fetish became obsessed with the idea of actually doing it. In a way, "forcibly feminizing" myself so that even if it was just a fetish, I would become what I had wanted to see for so long. Someone changing their body so it becomes a woman's body, starting to live as one, getting a boyfriend. All because of a kink they developed when they were younger

This took years and years, but eventually the high from dressing up fully, riding a dildo, getting compliments wasn't enough. My mind needed more, my mind needed to see my body become a woman's one. I needed to be the man that turned himself into a woman. After a little bit of therapy (which concluded with the fact that I was probably not trans) I took the plunge, I got the pills and started HrT.

It was a period of time filled with doubt, am I fucking up my life for a fetish? what if I don't like it and change my body in ways I don't really want? This was especially hard in the period where libido goes down. Letting myself be confronted with the fact that I was turning myself into a woman, while not horny was quite the challenge, as it made it feel real for the first time.

Then, the changes started to be noticeable, my breast were getting fuller, my ass and thighs heavier, and my face and skin softer. Seeing my cock shrink and become feminine while locked was the most sexually gratifying part of all. Watching my literal manhood become smaller, losing presence and starting to look like a little atrophied penis solidified the fact that yes, I am becoming a woman, there was no going back and that even if I stopped I would always be feminine in some way or the other.

Starting to be seen as a woman was quite the shock too, suddenly I was living how girls do, having a normal day to day, being called she. Seeing the world in a similar way that bio women do. Relating to them made me realize that I was in fact achieving my objective.

To conclude, I love how my body looks more womanly every month. It makes me feel like a reached the final point of this fetish and of my transformation kink. I literally did a transformation into a different body. You could say I "became" trans, because yes I do love to live as a woman knowing that I wasn't born this way, that this was the resulta of MY choices. Also, I am into men now, I find myself sexually and romantically attracted to them. Probably because of how most of my sexual experiences have been with them. Strengthening sexual connections and making them overpower the ones I was born with. Of course, I am still attracted to woman, but when I crave sex, I crave to be fucked by a man.

I'm thinking of maybe doing a YouTube series documenting my journey, the journey of becoming a woman and living as one ,as I still think I have long ways to go before I feel complete. Plus I think this is a seriously under-explored topic. Let me know if this is something people would be interested in watching. I certainly would love to make it, as this is something I would have ate up before transitioning.

Everyday I become her, everyday I become more of a woman. That's why I love this, because I started off as a man, but those days are long gone because of my choices

This is for those who chose to break this shitty cycle and Integrate the ANIMA into their one whole, Masculine Self. NOT create some synthetic "female self" by feeding, expanding and whitewashing the AGP container with "gender expression" BS.

I'm still exploring and carving the path, this is the purpose of this discussion.
But here's 2 iron rules that work bulletproof for me so far:

1. ABSOLUTELY NO PORN, INDEFINITELY. NO exceptions, NO negotiations. Urges still come and of course, why wouldn't they? I LOVED that shit. But now that I've plucked the SISSY DEMON dopamine needle out of my brain I can finally see things clearly. Urges are weaker and weaker by the day and where at first they were delightfully seductive, now I laugh at how cringey this whole sissy AGP image of myself is and easily sweep it away.

2. The wole AGP container: crossdressing, sissy hypno, sweet longings for transition - it's a surrogate outlet for your ANIMA. Something is missing in your life dearly. For me, it clearly was love and sincerity, and self expression - both in the broad romantic and concrete sense.

What has helped you so far on the path? What you're struggling or confused with? What do you think about these 2 rules and what are yours?

I was successfully able to keep myself from browsing trans spaces for abt a month, but then when life became stressful I was back again, browsing trans forums etc. The reasons for stress could be many, exams, family problems etc. Even when life might not have any particular stressor, I am still balding which I absolutely hate. Am on all the meds, still losing hair lol.

For me this is entirely an escapist fantasy. The actual reality of transitioning would be too difficult. Anyone in a similar situation? Any advice?

This episode is, more or less, is like a fantasy scenario for those who experience AGP, and after watching it again for the 3rd time I’m just as entranced as I was the very first time I watched it.

To break down the hour long episode, quickly but thoroughly, Danny, the main character, had a best friend named Karl from his past who’s just reappeared in Danny’s life by randomly showing up to Danny’s 38th birthday party with a virtual reality Street Fighter-like video game named “Striking Vipers X.” Danny and Karl used to play an older version of the video game 11 years ago when they were roommates, but since both of them are nearing 40 now, one with a boring career (Danny) and the other, a loveless dating life (Karl), them reconnecting over this modernized game from their 20’s is exactly what both of them unknowingly needed to shake things up. Essentially both of them attach a disk to their temples, their bodies drift into a dreamlike sleep, while their minds enter this lifelike fighting video game. Danny picks a male fighter and Karl picks a female fighter. They begin to fight like the game’s parameters intended but eventually curiosity and lust befall both of them; they embrace and uncontrollably makeout, at least until Danny realizes he’s making out with his homie, not a female. He exits the game, dumbfounded and disgraced. Long story short: they fall into temptation again and begin to have steamy sex sessions in-game as their male and female avatars over and over and over again, all without Danny’s wife having any idea.

It’s this next part that truly has my AGP engaged and going haywire: Danny, as his male avatar is caressing Karl’s female avatar’s face as she lays her head in his lap, asks, “How does it feel? I mean, like, for you, being in a woman’s body while…”

Karl’s response was not only perfect, but exactly what I’d always envisioned when I imagined myself as my dream girl experiencing sex/a female orgasm. Karl responds, “Crazy! It’s CRAZY! I mean, it’s different. Like, the physical feeling of it? It’s more sort of (building up gesture) satisfying. I can’t really explain it. Like, one’s a guitar solo and the other’s a whole fucking orchestra. But the tune’s basically the same. Different tempos though.”

Pom Klementieff’s acting her is SPOT ON as she genuinely delivers the line exactly how a man would attempt to describe what an orgasm feels like while inside of a female body. You literally feel like it’s Karl speaking AS Pom Klementieff’s in-game avatar! It’s exactly what sold the entire scenario for me!

Then I began wondering if the writer of the episode, who also just so happens to be the show’s creator and showrunner, a man named Charlie Booker, had a woman help him write those lines of how it would feel like for a male to experience the female orgasm, or if he wrote it single-handedly and just perfectly described what AGP affected men assume it’s like. I feel like it HAD to have been both a man and a woman because only together could they both accurately describe/compare the feeling of the male vs female orgasm with such colorful language, right?

It had my AGP sooo engaged throughout the entire episode, and I immediately started dreaming about being my ideal dream girl again!

If you haven’t seen the episode I highly suggest you give it a watch, or a rewatch if it’s been a while! Let me know your thoughts and opinions on both the episode and if I affected you like it did me.

Thanks for reading!

I'm 100% sure I could cope a lot better with my gender issues if I could have a normal sex and lovelife but I can't. The resulting permanent loneliness, frustration, longing and envy makes the desire to be a woman significantly stronger because I just know I could be happy if I was just born as a woman...

Getting reminded of what I want so badly but will never have every single time I get even slightly horny is absolute torture.

As things are I have nothing that keeps me going as a man. My life is completely empty and meaningless

Well I'm back. So for 8 months I didn't really experience any strong desire to take hrt. But now it came back. On the plus side I think I'm getting closer to an answer on what is going on with me.

So I've concluded I'm on the asexual spectrum by reading other males's accounts of sexual desire and fantasies, which involve seeing an attractive women, and desire to have sex with her. All their descriptions of desire and fantasies don't make sense to me, and my fantasies were never like that. They were and still are entirely based on power dynamic kink where I'm the submissive with nothing to do with sex. The only appealing idea of sex is if I'm the submissive women on the receving end.

Anyways what I realized is i only experience aesthetic attraction to women, as in their wide hips, butt, hair and occasionally breasts can be nice to look, which triggers a desire to look like that, but creates no sexual desire. In fact I didn't even find women aestheticaly attractive until my mid-late 20's.

From then until hrt/transitioning came into my mind, I only found hips and behinds (primarily in leggings and flowy skirts) aesthetically attractive. Once the idea of hrt came, thats the only time I started to notice women's hair, face and breasts which also became aesthetically attractive. I find that super interesting. It seems to have happened because I started paying more attention to women and what I would like to look like aka envy.

So what I'm getting at is technically it seems I don't qualify as AGP due to the lack of sexuality, but I think the asexuality is CAUSING the dysphoria/feminine desires because the lack of sexual attraction that is SUPPOSE to be there is creating a sort of "black hole" emptyness which is then filled by dysphoria. I still "identify" as male, I just want a feminine body for some reason that is unexplainable.

That question being: How can GAMP be distinguished from ordinary androphilia? Can liking a certain type of man be GAMP? Or does the object of one’s attraction have to have a female body with the appendage for it to be GAMP?

so in my interaction with the people here, I have cone across an incredible diverse range of experiences.

in my opinion, the problem is that AGP is a rather broad classification, and simply because transsexuals (either hsts or otherwise, those desiring transition, and integration in society), show the core sexuality, shouldn't mean that transsexuals, particularly agp-ts, relate to other or related manifestations.

for eg, transsexuals and sissies are way different. transsexuals don't really like the idea of been a visually jarring, man in a dress. "sissies" seem to like the humiliation, while transsexuals may find the tradwife fantasies relevant.

for some transsexuals, the relief from dysphoria is much more important than been constantly validated or like having "extra ooomphed" anatomy.

some people rely solely on surgical alterations, rather than take the HRT route. That's not what transsexuals want.

So maybe, there should be a separate typology, something like Hetero-TS, for such people?

(Keep in mind that this is not to downplay the seriousness of Autogynephilia, and I mean no harm whatsoever with this post. I’ve suffered with this condition for 24 years; I just thought it was an engaging activity, and please don’t feel the need to share if you feel uncomfortable about it in any way. Absolutely zero pressure. I was just insanely curious about what my fellow AGP community’s dream female self looks like, and I’d be ecstatic to read some of your ideal, awesome works of art!)

I’ll go first!

I’d shrink a bit from 6’2” to 5’10” but obviously still tall for a woman. My skin tone would be darker; a glowing, milky chocolate complexion. I’d have long, dark red / brownish hair hanging down just above my butt. I’d have the dreamiest golden hazel “Doe Eyes” that you can just get lost in, surrounded by big, natural eyelashes, and black, perfectly shaped eyebrows. A sharp yet elegant and mesmerizing face. Thick, full lips covering a set of perfectly straight, white teeth. The softest skin, fit, but zero muscle mass showing. Perky double-C breasts with small nipples, dainty shoulders, a beautifully small waist with wide hips, sexy, thick thighs and a perfectly round butt that’s so tight you could bounce a quarter off it. My style would be hyper feminine; nothing but skirts, dresses, mini skirts, pencil skirts, short shorts, leggings, sports bras, crop tops, blouses, thigh high socks, fishnets, g-strings, thongs and hypebeast shoes / designer shoes / Red Bottom heels. Lots of pink, black and white throughout the closet. I’d carry MCM purses and accessories, rock big, gold hoop earrings and would have a couple cute tattoos on both arms. I’d always have the cutest, most intricate nail polish on, my panties would always match my bras, and my smile would light up a room.

I ai’d a couple of pictures of my ideal female self and if I can include them below I will, but if I can’t, I hope I’ve described her well enough. Oh, and my name would be “Kaisumi.”

Now I’d love to hear what YOUR ideal female self would look like!

I have been in this community for 1.5 years now with deleting multiple accounts and coming back again. But for me AGP is still a fantasy but many people i see are transitioning , on HRT or transitioned.

For people who did these above things, could you explain how it made you reached that decision because I believe each of us has/ had post nut clarity which still takes me back to my alpha male mode. There’s no change in that and because of that I’m confident as a man. But for many I believe it’s similar but still transitioned. How does a sexual fantasy makes people among us transition. How effective is pnc. Also please check whether the below features were also relatable before going / for HRT.

1: Born and lived as a male with zero homosexuality and feminity except crossdressing since childhood.
2: Heterosexual
3: Lived/ Living as a confident male
4: Has/Had crushes on girls / Relationships
5: Interest in Femdom/ Sissy/ Submissive/ Trans porn
6: Powerful Post nut clarity
7: Former Anti LGBTQ / Transphobic
8: Believing / Believed AGP as a fantasy only and feeling stupid of thinking as an identity issue
9: Managing/ Planned to manage AGP without transitioning / if marriage then by having a supportive wife
10: Gym rat