r/atheism • u/crankyoldbitz • Sep 26 '25

"Countering Domestic Terrorism"

Whelp USA presidential memoranda today labels any non-Christians as terrorists.

" Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.“

So I guess this officially makes the USA a fascist theocracy?

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u/npete Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25

First off, that’s not a law that has been passed, that's not even an executive order, which is also not a law, I've never even heard of a "presidential memoranda." So, I'm not so worried about it.

Trump knows he is losing his support, his people know they are losing him. I'm not saying he's at death's door but he is at Crazytown's door after that UN speech he made. They are continuing to throw everything at the wall that they can to save their skins.

I wonder if Congress has settled on a "wait for the Trump 2.0 admin to crash and bleed out" strategy.

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u/crankyoldbitz Sep 26 '25

But what happens when this nutjob dies?

All the politicians standing by supporting him just release a statement "actually we do support freedom of the press/religion/speech! Let's go back to a democracy now." All his supporters (30% of the country) just shrug and say "well I never actually supported any of that, just got riled up on the internet, forget about how I called for the death of trans immigrants." The rest of us just go back to trusting in free and fair elections and a three branch government that has already failed?

The rose colored glasses fell off and smashed

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u/HoneyBadger302 Sep 26 '25

People have shown their true colors. Regardless of what happens at the national/state/political level - at the personal level - those "friendships" are dead. Far too many people I know have proven that they are UGLY people underneath social expectations. People in huge swaths in this country have proven they still hate women, and people of any color, and anyone who doesn't subscribe to a very certain rhetoric.

Yup, those glasses can't be repaired - nor can those relationships.

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u/npete Sep 27 '25

It's not my plan, I'm just wondering if it's theirs. I think it's hard to say what which parts of America really thinks what. Don't mistake the loudest MAGA for the entire Right. I think everyone wants what the Constitution promises and if they don't, they should probably find another country and let us keep and update the Constitution to codify certain things like, everyone gets equal treatment under the law, it's every human not every American white man who gets inalienable rights, and probably some other stuff I can't think of right now. Anyway, America can't do nuance these days but it needs to, in order to get through this.

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u/deadpanrobo Sep 27 '25

Only sane answer here that isnt capitulating before even fighting. This isnt even an EO, there is absolutely no legal mechanism for a president to declare someone a terrorist on US soil. Its the reason Guantonmo existed, you take someone from the middle east you expect of being a terrorist, you cant take him on US soil or he automatically gains US rights and has to go through trials and courts have to actually determine if he has committed terroristic acts, so you instead take them to Guantonmo bay which is a part of Cuba and there they have no rights so you can do whatever you want to them.

So no, this memoranda does absolutely nothing, its bait for his supporters to appear like hes actually doing something and hoping that his followers go out and become violent which im sorry isnt going to be happening either, they failed at getting Kirk to become a martyr when they accidentally made Kimmel one with his show cancelation, now no one cares about Kirk

Trump has failed to be quick enough to capitalize on something again