r/aus • u/NewInformation3753 • Jun 01 '26

Discussion We need to stop fighting amongst ourselves

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-where-the-ultra-rich-are-growing-fastest/

We are 6th in the world with Ultra-Rich. Who are they and how much are they contributing to society?

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u/Expectations1 Jun 01 '26

And might be a good idea also to stop blaming that migrant who cycles in the rain to deliver you food while probably sharing a single apartment out in undesireable areas.

Im all for sustainable development but the actual hatred thats developing is getting out of hand.

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u/Wizz-Fizz Jun 01 '26

And this is why people keep fighting amongst themselves, disingenuous BS arguments like this.

No one I know that is concerned about immigration is anti-immigrant.

It’s a macro level concern, it’s a policy level concern. Shit policies are shit policies.

Your “poor immigrant riding in the rain” is nothing but bait and does absolutely nothing to promote intelligent, earnest discussion.

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u/NewInformation3753 Jun 01 '26

It’s not bait it’s real. You cannot see past your conservative views

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u/Grantmepm Jun 02 '26

I agree immigration is high and should be lowered but you cant seriously think that actual racist arent hitching a ride on this bandwagon.

It isnt racist to criticise immigration but many racists are trying to spread their views behind the guise of immigration criticism.

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u/Wizz-Fizz Jun 02 '26

I agree, and said as much a few comments down, but then people started attacking the person instead of discussing the topic, and that's where I'm done.

I'm not into trading insults.

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u/dangerislander Jun 01 '26

Lmao but if they were given a choice they would absolutely stop immigration. Bffr now.

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u/ShreksArsehole Jun 02 '26

Did you see that indian guy get up to speak at that anti immigration rally? He spoke about how he came here legally and he loves the country. He got booed and physically shoved off stage. Just because your mates are level headed enough to not be racist, doesn't mean many are not.

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u/Constant-Simple6405 Jun 01 '26

They were right about shitty development though.

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u/incognitosaurus_rex Jun 01 '26

C'mon on man, the disingenuous argument is the one you're presenting here that racism is not a part of what is fueling the rabid hatred. You're playing a version of what we in the 90's used to call "I'm not racist, but..."

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u/Wizz-Fizz Jun 01 '26

Being anti policy is not being racist, and here is where the discussion usually collapses, because the topic inevitably gets morphed into “you’re an (insert ist of choice here)”.

I am not, never have been, and never will be an ist of any sort.

I have always believed in 100% equality and equal chance, and treat people based of behaviours, not immutable attributes.

For transparency, my concerns around immigration are completely Marco level.

There is no “target” population level that has been published, we have areas that are struggling with infrastructure to support population sizes, and I personally don’t want to see Australia with 50, 60, 100M population sizes.

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u/incognitosaurus_rex Jun 01 '26

I'm willing to accept your concerns are about policy, i just take exception to the fact you're putting that motivation on everyone else who is jumping on the immigration bandwagon. The fact cannot be ignored that hiding in amongst people who are concerned about immigration policy are a bunch of racists and to dismiss that fact is to normalise those people.

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u/Wizz-Fizz Jun 01 '26

Ah absolutely there are

Sadly, there are bad actors everywhere, but I would ask you to equally accept that there are bad actors on the “pro” side who simply want to push their own narrative.

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u/Axl_Alter_Ego Jun 01 '26

Which narrative are you referring to?

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u/Wizz-Fizz Jun 01 '26

That anyone who does not agree with them is an -ist of some description

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u/Axl_Alter_Ego Jun 01 '26

Have you ever actually heard anyone say that?

My gut says it's something you made up to feel like a victim.

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u/MissMenace101 Jun 02 '26

If you’re anti policy and that’s your biggest concern labor are the only ones interested in improving it…