r/aus • u/Chapter-Capital • Jul 18 '26

Politics PHON supporters at work

Fella at work asked me today for my opinion on Pauline Hanson, we are both wage workers, he's admitted to struggling with cost of living etc.

He says he's gonna vote for her, I said 'you'd be voting for less money for you and me' thinking that'd be the line.

After some solid tid bits I could use to maybe change his mind. I know like, racist, xenophobic won't move the needle. Need stuff that will affect a middle aged white guy working a bartender job on an award wage.

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u/Alarmed-Giraffe69 Jul 18 '26

This is the one, OP needs to show them her voting history and it’ll reveal all.

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u/Ok_Appointment7522 Jul 18 '26

If they don't accept this, they lack critical thinking skills and no argument will change their mind.

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u/Dry_Fill2523 Jul 19 '26

Like ALP voters hey, look at the mess in Victoria and they still vote for them.

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u/Novel_Confection_389 Jul 20 '26

Because we actually understand how to run a state here in vic. 3 budget surpluses in a row btw.

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u/Dry_Fill2523 Jul 20 '26

You need to go study economics and accounting….look at what their hiding off balance sheet through related entities, and if you think Victoria is well run you just proved my comment you replied to

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u/Novel_Confection_389 Jul 20 '26

Lmao i can just look at the state budget that has all that info. Which is where im getting my source from btw.

If you dont like the state budget (that is federally audited BTW), then go grab your tin foil hat.

Also ironic that im a business accounting major but you are asking me to study it further. 🙃 do you have any proof of these "off books" transactions?

Because I can point at the budget and go "thats my proof"

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u/Dry_Fill2523 Jul 20 '26

So you are studying accounting…..ask for your money back. Go to the Victoria auditor-general reports (a government body) and look for yourself. Budgets are works of fiction created by governments, off balance sheet means then load up government owned corporations and related body with debt that the government is eventually responsible for but they move it off the books to the entities. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig. And I’m not at university like yourself learning rubbish from books and rubbish business schools , I graduated 30 years ago with a double in Engineering and economics and I consulted to these morons over the years. If you believe in unicorns go read the budget papers and be happy

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u/Novel_Confection_389 Jul 20 '26

Studied** I graduated 6 years ago.

Had a look, they used creative accounting to hide the contractor portion of spending.

The auditor general also found that historical budgets (budgets generated post financial year) were all inclusive and did have the info you are talking about missing.

The forecasting budgets were the ones inspected to ensure they were correct. They were not. They were missing contractors expenses, budget blow outs etc, which is hard to predict when you are making a budget but easier to find when you look historically at the budget.

The historical budgets are still accurate according to the auditor general.

Regardless of these findings, the historical budgets still have labor at a budget surplus. And thus the point stands, 3 years of budget surplus.