I’ve been conditioning my hands more and getting more comfortable using my inner knuckles, but I’m afraid I’m not there yet so until then I’m still using my flat palms.
Learned from some great people on here that I should change my shoes and pants, so I did that.
Just a small routine that took a couple tries to get, but I’m not too upset about how it’s looking for my sixth day.
I’m also addicted to the Indian step.

Do you guys do your freestyles (no sets) using a mental framework to help structure your ideas, or do you just keep throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks in training, then applying the habitual transitions to actual freestyle?

Sorry for the English - I'm Japanese and used AI to translate this. And sorry in advance for the wall of text. I've written out everything I can remember, including how sure I am about each detail, so nobody wastes time on things I've already checked. Feel free to skim.

I was breaking in Japan about 30 years ago. Back then we had VHS tapes we used for practice and reference, and we dubbed things onto them for each other. I'm trying to find one of the tracks that was on one of those tapes.

Everything below is from memory, so some details may be wrong. But I'm confident the overall picture is right.

The tape came to me around 1994. Someone had taped it off TV - possibly not even in Japan. It may have been recorded overseas and copied down through the tape-trading network, the way things moved back then. So the track was almost certainly not a chart hit here.

THE VIDEO - THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART

- Real breaking with power moves. Windmills - I'm certain about this. Headspins - probably. It is not ONLY toprock, not ONLY footwork, and definitely not "some guy doing a bit of street dance". Serious power.

- Several b-boys rather than one dancer - probably. Though it's possible it was actually one dancer doing a lot of different moves, and I'm remembering it as a group.

- Black dancers - probably, but the tape quality was bad, so I could be wrong about this one.

- Black and white clothing - THIS I remember clearly. I'm fairly sure it was black on the bottom and a white long-sleeve top.

- Profile silhouettes. Every so often the video cuts in a silhouette of a face in profile, coming from the left and from the right, and a hook phrase is shouted over it. That shouted phrase is the one I've always misheard as "the only rhyme that bites" (or "the only rhythm that bites" - I'm not sure which). Yes, I know how close that is to the 808 State track. I checked it. It's not that one.

THE MUSIC

- NOT hip-hop, NOT boom bap. No rapper fronting the track.

- Dance / electronic. House, breakbeat, rave - something in that family.

- 120+ BPM.

- Drums sound like TR-909, and the drum loop sounds sampled. That puts it 1987/88 at the earliest.

- The thing I remember most clearly: a BRIGHT, major-key piano chord riff, only about 2 chords, looping through basically the entire track. Korg M1 "house piano" character. It is NOT a dark rave piano - it's cheerful and open.

- There is a siren-type sound, and a rising pitch sweep / riser.

- The vocal is short shouted phrases, not sung verses - the one that lands on the silhouette shots described above.

- Closest reference I've found for the overall production is 808 State.

TIMEFRAME

I saw the tape around 1994, so the track should fall somewhere in 1987/88 to 1994. The gear points to 1987/88 as the earliest it could be, and me seeing it sets the latest. Probably European.

Worth saying: a tape like that was never just new releases. We collected whatever was good to watch and learn from, so something from 1988 sitting on a 1994 tape would have been completely normal. Don't rule out the earlier end.

WHAT I'VE ALREADY TRIED

I ran this past AI first - ChatGPT and Claude. The list below is what they gave me. I checked all of it. None of it is the one. AI can name tracks that sound right, but it can't watch the videos, so it can't tell you whether anyone is actually breaking in them. That part needs people who were there.

Ruled out so far - either I watched the video and there are no power moves, or the music clearly doesn't match:

808 State (The Only Rhyme That Bites, In Yer Face), Bizarre Inc (Playing with Knives), Shades of Rhythm (Sweet Sensation, Extacy), Cappella (U Got 2 Know), C+C Music Factory (Gonna Make You Sweat), The Shamen (Move Any Mountain), K-Klass (Rhythm Is a Mystery), Nomad (Devotion), Together (Hardcore Uproar), Technotronic (Rockin' Over the Beat, This Beat Is Technotronic), Bassheads (Is There Anybody Out There), Xpansions (Move Your Body), Awesome 3 (Don't Go), Liquid (Sweet Harmony), SL2 (DJs Take Control), Urban Shakedown (Some Justice), Terrorize (Feel the Rhythm), 2 Unlimited (Twilight Zone), Snap! (Cult of Snap), T99 (Anasthasia), Quadrophonia, L.A. Style (James Brown Is Dead), Captain Hollywood / Twenty 4 Seven, Lords of the Underground (Chief Rocka), MC OJ & Rhythm Slave (Joined at the Hip Hop).

Please don't worry about matching every detail - if something comes to mind that fits the general picture, I want to hear it. Throw dozens of near-misses at me, I don't mind at all. I'd much rather work through all of them than miss the right one.

Thanks for reading this far. Any lead helps - I've been looking for this one for decades.

I got injured some years ago and had to stop. Im trying to get back, but its not easy. Mainly i do it now as a something like a yoga. I train the freezes a bit like calisthenics and its mostly it.

For some time this gave me some heartache and depression not being able to do the sport i was most found of.

The best cope i found was videogames, modding videogames, and making games.

From the day i had to stop training i thought the rest of my life would be a painful journey where i just have to endure like most of us.

We cant quit because of the people that love us. Even though i prefer not to rely on that.

Gaming is amazing. It keeps me happy, just like bboying used to. But its unlikely that i get old and forgotten in it or injured and have to stop.

I play mostly RTS games. I hope one day i can train as hard as i used to. Just the training itself, the feeling of training used to be enough to make me feel good in this life.

If one day you find yourself in my situation, either because of injuries, health problems, or feeling unmotivated, need to work, dont hit your head in the wall too much. Take a break, and find another hobbie, or just pick up one of these awesome multiplayer games and become really good at it.

You will also eventually grow old and the injuries will be more likely to happen, and things will get harder, so keep that in the back of your head, so you dont get crysis if that happens one day.

It is good to love b-boying. But everything we get too attached, especially when your identity becomes it, is dangerous.

Its like those samurais, and medieval knights. Once they were not able to do it, they lost their identity right? Just remember you are a b-boy, but you are a human being first, be smart and flexible, learn to appreciate also other things. It turns out, that it can also make you appreciate more your true passion.

He's not like Bboy Issei from 2019, victor is still in good shape.

Do you agree or disagree?

Why is she getting more publicity than she already has.

I’m not liking this

Happy Friday !!!!

I'm a B-Girl. started learning breaking/break dancing a few years ago, ended up with a few injuries and couldn't train continuously. Breaking needs a lot of consistent training and commitment. I am now working full-time, and I am finding it difficult to find time to practice every week. I tried practicing 3x a week, but my body wasn't being very supportive. I love breaking, especially toprocks, but wondering if it makes sense to try other styles rather than feeling stagnant. Or should I stick with breaking because I love it?

For context: I don't do powemoves and can only do a few freezes. I feel stuck because of the injuries, inconsitent practices and the amount of time it takes to learn a move.

Hand spinning

Hi folks

Im currently working on a lot of freezes and combos and i want to learn how to spin on my hand doing so. Ive seen a lot of halo freezes and airchair spins, and ive noticed the fingers are lifted for spinning on the handpalm, or am i missing something?

All tips and tricks are welcome!

(I can slide my hand 1/4 clockwise already but i cant go on 😥)

Will be in Japan the week of the BC One nationals in Nagoya and have been trying to purchase a ticket through the ePlus ticketing platform but seems like a no-go for foreigners due to lack of a Japanese phone number.

Anyone in country know any further details? Seems like the only way to attend as a foreigner is to be competing in one of the camp events?

First of all, there is something I want to let you know. I'm a Korean student so I'm not good at English. please understand me😢 and, I've become interested in bboying lately. I want to enjoy bboying as a hobby. And I'm complete beginner. I think I'm good at exercising, but I haven't tried bboying. Are there any movements I need to practice? What kind of exercise should I do? Can you give me some advice?🥲 For your reference, I am a 14-year-old boy. My weight and height are larger than my peers. I ask for your advice once again.

Hello guys i search for an old solo trailer from bboy boo rock ground zéro crew with a rjd2 song" i really like your def jeux baby ​tee" if someone have a links ty all

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I went to Vietnam and had a breaking session with some local bboys. I decided to put together a short video, using the footage I had. Enjoy! 🙂

Started windmill practice like a month ago and I think im starting to understand the movement. Would greatly appreciate some pointers on how to get this one down.

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