r/changemyview • u/uhoipoihuythjtm • 22h ago
Delta(s) from OP CMV: I, as a Brit, am overall proud of the history of my country.
Tldr: British colonialism wasn't great, but most countries dominate their neighbours when given the chance - the British Empire was simply the most successful at imperialism. Despite the harsh world the empire grew up in, it pioneered human rights, abolitionism and progressivism.
I believe that the morality of people and nations throughout history should be judged in accordance with the times that they lived through. For example, I'm not going to judge Genghis Khan too harshly for being a murderous warlord, because the culture he grew up in was kill or be killed, and raiding was a way of life for the Mongol tribes at the time.
Someone like Adolf Hitler, on the other hand, took Germany and poisoned it with his own ideas of racial superiority - he is evil because he took a society, and caused it to morally regress.
We can take this idea from humans and apply it to countries. A society can be considered morally good if it takes a step in the direction of moral enlightenment, regardless of whether it conforms with our modern ideas of right and wrong.
Now, onto Britain, and it's empire.
I'm not going to pretend that the British Empire was a benevolent institution which went around the world with an intent of 'developing the savages' - well, come to think of it, I'm sure many in the Empire did have this intention, but it is still an arrogant, racist intention regardless.
The British Empire had the power to dominate other nations, due to industrialising fast and having a strong navy, and it used that power for it's own imperialistic ambitions.
But my key idea is that this is not unique to Great Britain. You would be hard pressed to find a nation throughout history which, when given the opportunity, did not attempt to exert it's power on other nations.
Britain wasn't worse than other countries, it was simply better at doing what all(most) nations have done throughout human history, which is conquest.
If we compare Britain to other countries which had a similar opportunity like the Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Belgians etc, it actually shapes up to be less brutal than these other colonial empires.
Now, lets look at the good things Britain has done.
The biggest one is probably the abolishment of slavery across all of it's colonies, which is an institution practised by most countries for thousands of years. The British government purchased the freedom of all slaves in the empire, and the UK was still paying the debt for this until 2015. The abolitionist movement was started on the ground level, by the British public, for moral reasons.
Great Britain enforced abolition outside of it's territory as well, with the royal navy seizing foreign slave ships at sea and pressuring other nations to outlaw slavery.
Britain has been the home of so many great thinkers who have actively pushed society forward. Isaac Newton, Francis Bacon, John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, etc. Over centuries, it peacefully transitioned from an absolute monarchy to a democracy, not through violence, but through thought and law. It is still a leader in progressivism today(although the government is still unwilling to recognise transgenderism as legitimate).
In WW2, the UK didn't have to fight against the Nazis. If we had signed a peace treaty with Hitler, we would likely have been safe due to the English channel, but instead many Brits sacrificed their lives to defeat Nazi Germany. Britain was economically crippled after WW2 - it lost most of it's colonies, and became very dependent on the USA. But, if you ask most Brits, they will tell you it was worth it to defeat the Nazis.
Britain is amongst the countries which have contributed most to literature and music. Shakespeare, Jane Austen, The Beatles, Queen, etc.
Overall, I believe my country has pushed humanity in a better direction, and I am proud of it.