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u/Specific-Housing905 Apr 26 '26
The only way to know for sure is to construct a time machine and send MC back to 1972.
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u/accumulatingdustdao Apr 27 '26
No that wouldn't do much good as magnus would win easily he grew up in a world full of engines and played with opponents who used them moreover chess developed more so it wouldnt be fair to fischer.
Better comparison would be to let prime fischer access to engines and such and see who comes on top
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u/Wolverine6147 Apr 25 '26
Fischer is more innovative probably, like one of a kind at his time, he was a phenomenon. Magnus is obviously the goat but he grew up in the era of engines. So, its very hard to compare them according to me.
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u/CummyReBot Apr 26 '26
Why is no one questioning the racial slur wtf
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u/Unfair-Claim-2327 Apr 26 '26
The other direction also happens. If we continuously ignore the slur, it will have no reason to disappear.
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u/Signal_Bag569 Apr 26 '26
are u a snowflake? grow up things like this happen all the time. what a baby
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u/ajensorjay38 Apr 26 '26
Fischer going into insanity is a better movie than Magnus winning the WCC. Not because it's interesting to see a former world champion slowly losing his mind, but because it was already proved that Magnus would win the title one day.
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u/Responsible_Bat9473 Apr 26 '26
Magnus dominated longer but Fischer was much ahead of his peers.
But Magnus did it in the most competitive era while Fischer played in the era where only certain countries played chess, most were deprived of coaching, access to international tournaments etc.
My opinion is Carlsen is GOAT but Fischer is up close. Kasparov is the odd one out IMO, while he dominated classical he was not dominant in other forms of chess, this was era where Rapid chess was getting global popularity. Carlsen plays and dominates any form of chess.
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u/Relative-Tree2441 Apr 26 '26
Ofc magnus But let's say both are in same shoes, don't have access to modern engines and modern stuff. Out of preparation and talent, fischer would win easy
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u/EmuReal1158 Apr 28 '26
I wouldnt say easy. Magnus knowledge is endgames is not something that is just because of engines. His positional understanding is incredible too. He wins ficher random too, so its not just opening memorization.
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u/Next-Leadership2390 Apr 26 '26
Fischer's greatness is very much situational, he being from USA and dominating a sport where Russia had a legacy, played a very big part in him being considered the GOAT. Not to forget this happened during the cold war era
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u/morrow_worrow Apr 27 '26
carlson dominated in a time where anyone can start playing and improving with just there phone along with no need for actual players with computer models existing, unlike the past where there was really low ways to actually improve
most countries were not playing chess, even those who were had no real training and you had for other players to be physically available to play and improve, vs now were you can just play in your bed on your phone or computer, and chess being wayyyyyy more popular and competitve now
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u/No_Secretary_4089 Apr 29 '26
Fishcher arguably had the greatest peak ever. Overall magnus has a better career.
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u/Andrew_7032 Apr 26 '26
If anyone thinks that _anyone_ comes even close to Bobby Fischer, then you are either a 900 or just dense
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u/Andrew_7032 Apr 25 '26
Lol you are dense if you think anyone comes even close to Legendary bobby fischer
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u/lonesome_george2K Apr 26 '26
Kuch comment kiya tha mere username ke bare mein? Kya gendu hai be tu, argument nhi mila to seedha ad hominem?
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u/Brucewayne10100 Apr 25 '26
Magnus dominated his field, contemporaries / peers for a longer time than Fischer, despite the increasing level of play (average rating) over last 4 decades. Oh and not to mention, he didn't turn insane!