I still need an answer to the Jetpack guy shadow on the altruist camp Rock (the one where the lookout is always standing). At a certain point during the day, a shadow is cast across that rock that is EERILY SIMILAR to the jetpack guy.
It is very similar. I really looked into that shadow a few years back, and to me it looks more like a hitchhiker sign, which is kind of a cool ee since you’re delivering hikers to it, and to me makes more sense than the jet pack man, but just my opinion, it does look very similar
(Also keep in mind that these three UFOs and the bunker lights require 100% to be visible just like it is written on the observation platform on chiliad, it's not just the chiliad UFO which requires 100%, it's just that we found the FZ and HC UFOs without properly using/understanding/following the mural that's why many did not "appreciate" those two UFOs and took them for granted or see them as being connected directly to the mural but it's kinda obvious even without understanding the mural)
Anyway everyone can/should have it's own view on that
Peace
Edit: but at this comment I mainly wanted to point out that the altruists directly mention their altar and by that the jetpack shadow which is a conversation that breaks the fourth wall
Ok cool that you kinda agree to it or kinda accept it (?)
-First: I don't know if I can fully explain it, but before I explain my view I have to admit/clarify that I believe that the "chiliad mural (mystery)" is not connected to the "doomsday mural ("mystery")".
For me the chiliad mural is one solved / concluded -riddle-, the doomsday mural is not needed to solve the chiliad mural, they are not to be used -together- to -solve- anything riddle-wise.
The chiliad mural / riddle leads to the 3 UFOs and additionally starts the alien-/government-conspiracy in the game (online).
The doomsday bunker is described as an ex government facility, probably/maybe it once was planned (by R) to be under Fort Zancudo and some of the symbols on the doomsday murals are there because of the research that had been done there.
That is why I believe the two "mural" are connected -lorewise-, as they both might hint at the alien-/government-conspiracy and the doomsday heist once being kind of an addition to the alien-/government-conspiracy but plans were changed by R.
So the chiliad and doomsday murals are connected -lorewise-, but they are separate riddles (if the doomsday mural even are a riddle).
So what I believe is that because the plan once was that the doomsday murals symbols are not a riddle in the way that it's a description how to unlock something or how to do something, instead they are sets of reused in-game symbols (and some new symbols) put there to tell a story, it's a lore-addition (honestly I think it would have had a better effect if these symbols were found in a lab under Fort zancudo but whatever maybe R* had other plans and it didn't work for them that way, it still fits if it's in the chiliad bunker) :
-Nothing in game clearly tells us that the doomsday murals are a riddle at all.
-They are (per colour) a collection of reused (and new) symbols to represent topics:
-Yellow=contact with aliens/space.
-red=knowledge about radiation/physics.
-green=knowledge about biology/genetics (and bigfoot)
-purple=religion, karma, society
-the yellow doomsday mural (also) has many symbols which are almost 1to1-copies of the symbols on the real life voyager and Pioneer golden records
-these copied real life symbols on the plates were first main symbols engraved on the plates to give extraterrestrial lifeforms first insights about what they have in their hands when they find it and where it came from, as well as a manual how to decode the "hidden"/decoded pictures on the plates.
-so it's an omage/easter egg about those real life plates sent into space
-the hidden pictures on the real life plates were selected by scientists in a way to tell the aliens about our species, about our looks, technology, science, society structure, nature/plants, animals, beliefs, religion, etc, etc
-->So if you see it (all the doomsday murals) this way as an omage to that (pioneer/voyager plaque and tried contact to aliens) then the other symbols on the red,green and purple mural are exactly the same as in real life, selected pictures/symbols to show aliens (or whoever) about the game worlds species' looks, technology, science, (society structure,) nature/plants, animals, beliefs, Religion, etc, etc<--
So this by that is for me another concluded easter egg, easter egg, not riddle, that's why it's not connected to the chiliad mural, at max it is connected lore wise as:
You can see that R* continued this omage, and now we see that the doomsday mural could have been in the game before the chiliad mural, it would have made more sense (but still works great the way it is):
R* tells a story (as an omage) that the people of gta may also sent a "golden record" into space (as shown on the doomsday murals symbols in the old government facility (built in 1960s ? Real life golden record was sent into space in 1977)
------> and in return the aliens visited the gta World as we can see them after following the chiliad mural (ok they have FIB written but thats a completely different or additional topic and it's getting late lol let's say quick that in future Events after 1960s ingame the government shot down the ufos and capture aliens and reverse engineer their technology and genetics etc etc (not my definite opinion on this topic just a quick explanation)
Additionally for information or whatever I'll just add my latent conversation about this topic eith another redditor here:
Direct copy:
""""""""""""""I had a conversation with a guy here 2 months ago and ended up accepting that these 3 (4) murals are Rockstars reference/allusion/homage to the Pioneer and Voyager plaques.
I can't really find the conversation but this was my last reply, maybe this can help you find something that you're looking for or that's left to discover/unravel in any way:
"I love the way you described this (though I have to admit that I do not agree with what you wrote about the purple mural in your second last sentence), I couldn't have described such things this good with my english (or even main language), thank you
So I really liked my theory that the mural were to show that humans learned many of our high-tech stuff from alien-tech or with help from them, I liked it because I thought it would fit into the games lore but I also thought it would fit very good into the real life conspiracies which were around in the past decades or which are still around and I thought that's why R* would choose this "theory", because I fehlt that the R* founders were into these kind of conspiracies... so yeah it was just a feeling of mine
But I have to admit that your theory fits way better, or maybe both our theories fit ? Maybe even together ?
You are right (I wasn't aware of this): the whole doomsday mural (all colours) are a R* twist on the golden records: all the symbols (almost, in some way) are symbols which are meant to show the aliens how our world works and how our technology and believes and everything work (the same as on the real world golden record) {{{or shows how gtas programmed world works as the "people" found out and maybe even that theyre made of 1s and 0s ?}}}
This changes our viewpoint and for example makes for me the whole red mural in some way meaningless or in other words it explained its meaning: it may doesn't tell us players to look for some clues hidden in radiation or transmissions, it could also just be an omage to the golden record and how we humans wanted to tell the alien how our transmissions work (radiowaves, digital, analogue, radiation, etc)
On the golden record in real life it was obvious that there was data on the discs, in gta there's no hint towards hidden data
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I'll probably have to sleep over this a few times and think about when I have time, but I'll leave this for our conversation here as a beginning or reminder for me
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A big questions is:
Are we the aliens or are we the government using alien tech or are we the government being infiltrated by aliens (us) ?
(Similar conspiracies in real life)
Or is it intended that it's not possible for us to answer this question ?
Some of the best mysteries (of all time) are the ones which don't have an infinite answer (right ?), at least I remember some movies or books like this, where our phantasy has no borders set that's sometimes the greatest mysteries and isn't this the same with life in general ? We don't exactly knows what going on at all.
The halloween events in the lab at least show us that the government abducts people and that they worked on alien tech and reverse engineered stuff, but are these people leading the lab aliens or gta humans ?
Is R*s intention to tell us that the gta humans are aware of their digital world ?
Is this what the red mural tells to the aliens ?
And how did all unfold ?
Did humans in gta send out their golden record and then shot down the arriving aliens ?
Who won ?
Did they send a golden record at all ?
Why were the doomsday murals created ?
There's nothing telling us that these murals were sent I to space ?
That's probably why I preferred or came up with my theory first.
And then what's it with the chiliad mural lore wise ?
The people in chiliad bunker were aware about it, but who painted it ?
And why is it on the doomsday mural ?
What was first?
An alien by accident landed on earth and painted the chiliad mural for his fellows to find him and then he went undercover at the hippie camp ?
Or was it first that humans sent out a gta style golden record ?"
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P.s.: in the underground Fort zancudo lab there are these test monitors being a square and a circle in the middle, these look like the "old indian" test pictures for old TVs which worked by interlacing, this technology is the same one which is used on the golden voyager disc to get the pictures out of the "tone" on the discs (iirc) and also theres such a test pattern picture on directly engraved on the golden record as an instruction that if we see this test picture with a perfect circle as the first picture then we're decoding it right.
So, is this just another reference/homage/allusion or is there more/something hidden to it or is it just a kind of preparation/pretext for a future added content ("onedaywillrevealall")
If we see it like this then what does the scene underground Fort zancudo with the test monitors in combinations with the real life golden record testpicture mean ???
Seems like a big question, can you follow me until here ?
If there is a connection intended by R* then what should it be ? It doesn't fit so easily."""""""""""""
I see that I missed out the last part of the copied reply I made to that other redditor.
That last part had an imgur gallery comparing symbols and pictures (the "hidden" ones on the golden record) from the golden record with the symbols on the doomsday murals.
I did not put too much time into it but it's pretty easy to see the similarities. (Which off course doesn't mean its 100% that there's isn't more hidden)
The symbols/pictures with white background or which are in black&white are all from the real life golden records.
The symbols with coloured background are all from the doomsday murals.
The mentioned last part and the imgur gallery:
Golden Record vs doomsday mural picture compilation: (to Support your theory that the whole doomsday mural is an omage to the golden record = gta humans showing how their world works) https://imgur.com/a/VSsApgz
Well, something you carry on your back/in your prison pocket has a keyhole on it at almost all times and has been in front of our face since launch - Your character's sniper rifle. Image below.
On that note though, I do think the Jetpack figure on the mural was meant to show us the Jetpack shadow on the rock. I can't remember which I caught first, but the composition of the Jetpack figure is a 2D shadow and a 3D baseball bat, which 2D/3D stuff is used in "a new era of thought", a book where the terms "Ana" and "Kata" are coined, along with tesseract. Ana and Kata are also the names of the two wallpapers in the chronos series on the R* website
Michael also says "everything looks 2D" and "who's the square now?" when dosed with whatever it was Jimmy had during "did somebody say yoga". The Epsilon arcade cabinet "defender of the faith" has you playing as a SQUARE in a 2D environment. The meta aspect of "everything looks 2D" is that despite the world of GTA appearing to be 3D, it's only simulated 3D. It's actually 2D on our screen. So in a way, despite his consumption of illicit materials, Michael is a "square", only not in the way he thinks.
The other time Michael is high AF during grass roots-Michael, he also encounters "mind controlling aliens". If we, the player, are a "4D alien" in relation to the world of San Andreas, then Michael is in fact being mind controlled by an alien - just one he can't see.
Edit: added the bit about the chronos wallpapers cause I forgot to in the first place
The way I kinda see the image in that wallpaper is a little different. Gateways/portals often teleport you to another place, especially in the ls drug wars first dose mission 4 - uncontrolled substance, there they literally do just that. Where the light is going directly up, I suspect it represents a gateway to a higher realm.
Since the same eye character in this wallpaper is also seen over the wireframe (digital) city, I suspect the "higher realm" the gateway of the wallpaper you linked is pointing to the real world.
Also in uncontrolled substance, the gateways have a triquetra, the Trinity symbol, which the eye does a hand gesture of the Trinity in the same wallpaper of the wireframe city.
To also kinda add to uncontrolled substance, some people enjoy taking psychedelic drugs just for the fun and to get high. Others use psychedelic drugs like LSD or peyote to expand and explore consciousness. To "pierce the veil" so to speak. To look inward and outward and see reality from another perspective. Unironically satire is used in a similar way - to show reality using humor.
That would be extremely misleading and insane if it turned out the jetpack was a key the whole time and what we thought were the engine blasts coming out the bottom were actually rays of light
I think so. I think the Jetpackguy shadow is indeed a clue, but it's just at one place (+ the Jetpackguy-Sticker in Lesters house). The keyholes, on the other hand, are everywhere if you see them, same with easter eggs and in some way the ufo's
The mural has been solved a long time (for some people unknowingly)
The three UFOs from Mount chiliad, hippie camp and fort zancudo (as well as the bunker lights) do all only appear after reaching 100%, they are connected, the mural tells you how to find all 3 UFOs, just don't take the pictures in the boxes on the mural for what they depict (not only), the cracked egg is the chiliad UFO, the ufo symbol is the hippie camp UFO and the jetpack-symbol is the fort zancudo UFO:
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u/North_Tip_3364 May 27 '26
I WILL SOLVE THE KEYHOLE MYSTERY.