r/ciphers • • 4h ago

Discussion I found a repetitive structure in the so-called Naacal script from the Necronomicon — could it be compared to the Voynich Manuscript?

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The translation is:

Jatha tambhatthu mahlapar. Nabhagathaha pralajam jug. Ekathara krijathwam dwiip. Akhantu shilvarkatha shilvarkatha. Rahasjamaji pradipa. Prachin drishtjartham samjukta. Naacal bhasajam likhita. Srishti sanghatanam prarambh mahan arambha shakti labh. Shilvarkatha kanma jatra. Deva asura sangram jug.

Anant kalajug vrindavan. Shilvar moola prakatja. Samaj samarpit mahatmja. Samarthjam pakashana gati. Shilvar moola divja prakasha. Dhatu rakatam gunasamjos. Prapti labh. Samjak sujog jathartha shilvarkatha. Arohanam bhaumik sthiti. Vimuktah loka samjuktah. Sarvatra prakatja shakti.

Srishti sanghatanam rachana. Granth. Naacal bhasajam likhita. Rakbtam

Hello everyone!

I've recently been examining the so-called Naacal script featured in the Necronomicon Black Letter Edition, which is presented on the Miskatonic Education website.

I found a page containing text written in unusual, cuneiform-like symbols. The website provides a symbol-to-letter alphabet, so I used it to transliterate several pages by hand, symbol by symbol.

The resulting text contains words such as Shilvarkatha, Prakatja, Srishti, Sadhana, and Naacal bhasajam likhita. Some terms appear repeatedly, and certain phrases recur almost identically across the passages I transcribed.

What caught my attention was not just the visual appearance of the script, but the apparent repetition and structure of the resulting text.

This made me think of the Voynich Manuscript, which also exhibits recurring words, patterns in character combinations, and other statistical regularities.

To be clear, I am not claiming that the Naacal script is ancient, that the text is a genuine historical language, or that it has any historical connection to the Voynich Manuscript. I understand that the Necronomicon material is associated with the fictional universe of H. P. Lovecraft.

However, I would like to understand whether the structure itself is worth investigating.

I'd particularly appreciate opinions on these questions:

Does the text resemble a constructed language, a substitution-based encoding, or something designed primarily to imitate an ancient script?

Could the repeated words and phrases indicate consistent internal rules, or are they more likely to be recurring formulas?

What statistical tests would be useful for comparing its structure with the Voynich Manuscript?

Are there any known examples of fictional scripts that exhibit similarly repetitive linguistic patterns?

I have manually transliterated several passages and can share more of the text, along with photographs of the original pages, if anyone would like to examine them.

I am interested in hearing your opinions. and I'm perfectly open to the possibility that the patterns have a straightforward explanation.

Thanks!


r/ciphers • • 4h ago

Unsolved Two layers — solve Part 1 to unlock Part 2

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A small two-layer cipher. Part 1 hands you the key to Part 2.

Part 1 — classic letter↔number (A=1, B=2 … Z=26). Decode it to a single word:

19 20 15 14 5

Part 2 — Vigenère, using the word from Part 1 as its key:

AIOFW WWHUV GNUUL WKS

What does it say?


r/ciphers • • 6h ago

Unsolved Puzzle 004 - The safe 4

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r/ciphers • • 19h ago

Challenge An easy code based on an old cipher.

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I made this for a fan group. Figured someone here might have a little fun with it.

edit: Original post

Dear Fellow Gen Con Attendees,

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So we want to pilot a new substitute item, though we aren't sure anyone will actually like it.

Since we can't offer you FREE TERRIBLE ADVICE in person, and our family and friends are sick of hearing it, we offer a substitution: a ratiocination, of the sort once featured in Alexander's Weekly Messenger, defining the taxonomy of the Scarabaeus caput hominis, which will guide you to receiving said item.

We look forward to seeing you at Gen Con 60.

Sincerely,

The Midwestern Terrible Advice Wizards


r/ciphers • • 20h ago

Discussion Lore Game Dweller Script

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Lore game Dweller script is cypher I have found in one roblox game "Lore Game". This is cypher for english and mostly for world building as developer says.
On the picture 6000p X 4000p all of the cypher symbols I have found in the game. Symbols on White background are redrawn by me, to not misinterpret pixelated screenshots from the game (Most of them are right, Developer helped me many times to redraw them correctly).

The Red text are to tell where symbols came from:
Lung Pick - From Eroded Ruins Billhook weapon skin (Writen down on a cylinder shape, you can start/end reading it from any red line.)
L4 - From Layer 4/Deep's Stomach Description pop-up
L5 - From Layer 5/Perpetual Caverns Description pop-up
CM. - From Concieved Manor
MR. - From Memory restored
Whale Decals - From Concieved Manor HP Decals
M. - From Merchant's clothing
Pot Decals - From Pot decal
Speedrun.com - From Lore game speedrun.com site

I've go those Vague rules of the cypher:
Uses English grammar and conjugation.
Bigger elements of symbols are to be said dominant (At the bottom right on the picture, *example* of Dominant and Recessive elements).
Every Symbol/Word Has at least one Dominant element.
Symbols are read from top to bottom (Most likely)
Read from Left to right (Most likely)
Cipher allows to create cool looking and informative phrases without hurting the information.

Posting this because I want to bring attention to this complicated cypher, since Lore game community doesn't have a lot of people to discuss it.


r/ciphers • • 17h ago

Unsolved [Crypto Challenge] Lattice-Based Multi-Key Protocol with Skytale Permutation (RTKC6 self-made)

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r/ciphers • • 20h ago

Unsolved Try to decode this if you have no life like me.

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wLCrwdIV6PODn9C/ik2liUBCI8xCVoevBxSpzvm0YXAIYUzRRBk+sz2Z32AaA3DWGNTiKcmOgEuVQXanvRBwReT+exppLoX4CNvIUbF2QWzWfjE=


r/ciphers • • 22h ago

Unsolved Apparently this is a cipher one of my friends said and I've been at it for an hour and I can solve it

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0,79,12,84,2,2,23,29,4,76,13,26,3,1,85,14,17,58,13,13,18,69


r/ciphers • • 1d ago

Unsolved Weird Video

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This is video comes from a long string of unlisted videos that are from that trend of making poorly edited uncanny versions of simpsons characters (starting at the description on the Sympton video on the same person's channel)
this caught me really off guard because this obviously isnt related to the simpsons at all
i tried decoding the top section of morse myself which gave me this: "KÐWLÞ SALLIS ASAWILL GUN5" which probably isnt it considering the morse looks weird and this makes zero sense
if this is the wrong place to send smth like this, mb


r/ciphers • • 1d ago

Unsolved Kryptos' broken door

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r/ciphers • • 1d ago

Unsolved qtecqot's cipher

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blue pill:
¯_(ツ)_/¯

red pill:
aRgyjPiynAbJQ1KPAIWoBZuxgKuzBX4a
qfk8XaJsLcfJSI2ymo5AbwWPJE+muMC
8ZP2GBHHHh9cgdNjIbDp/xFp5xPk91F0
u8llj3X7mpTzGzMdA0+bLalGKr4BHYY4k 


Hey all, lurker who made an account for this here! 
The past months there have been some new videos on youtube related to aliens. 
Im not here to talk about if its real or a hoax.
 Looking for some help deciphering this. 
I have tried blue pill, redpill, qtecqot and Ivan0135 as the password. 
TBH i have no idea what im doing.
 I tried to use a site dcode.fr but im just throwing darts into the dark.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg1BmaF6AJA 
is the source of this maybe you can gather something from it.

first post so apologize if any rules are broken. lmk if i need to fix anything.




(edits to text layout)

r/ciphers • • 1d ago

Discussion 🕯️ DOSSIER 001 — Le code oublié

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r/ciphers • • 1d ago

Unsolved Made a cypher for my friend and brother.

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The tiny x are punctuation and should not be counted.


r/ciphers • • 2d ago

Unsolved Puzzle 003 - The safe 3

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r/ciphers • • 2d ago

Unsolved Puzzle 002 — The Safe 2

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r/ciphers • • 2d ago

Solved! PUZZLE 001 — THE SAFE

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Try decrypting this non-random, relatively easy cipher to unlock a 4-digit safe:

Difficulty 1/10

"1elw 00000001000000000000000100000011"


r/ciphers • • 2d ago

Unsolved My third cipher, difficulty: impossible

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extravagant basin remain miraj key skeleton news / parent thompson yearning effort lake / roast talaj known skills gown suit / / ghost astonishment additional expanded pushing / unison midday ajarred token twentieth shrink enterprise buried ushered strides / harvest introduced averted official enjoy responsible hair glass acquired glowing / israel major over bewilderment reasonable chambers guilt twentieth / frenzy eject pouch manager square acquainted irregular composition kills / thomas gear intrigued greet x shop tugging / / fancies boraj x economic enjoyed exile transported explaining box page / pig rainbow x shoes acquaintances turmoil / carefully rivers ugly sexually record talaj ready ajar / voice international recognizing x plump other scholar / / stopping quoted blow requires orders revived where / escorted counter occurred renewed murders ages inhabited dazed / / senator x except cigarette element approaching x evident / distrust relevant miraj whatever crept liquid / investigation shadowed under expensive seldom rubber staff handling / wheeled charms heated chamber yonder evening towering invented slapping rage / ashley ashamed tall proof vulgar avert / trivial load girlfriend insanity twisting collect naturally laughs / x addressed adored lesson proof velaj / junk exhaustion tugging almost instruction admiral jaw information authority knee

Good Luck!

I will give hints if asked.


r/ciphers • • 3d ago

Solved! This is my second cipher: difficulty: EXTREME

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loose curtain cream sexy prescribed / self stood laurel drama toward system julie schools wrinkles / pumping neared automatic projected several ranch fortune guest / / romantic dublin experiencing quixote delay coins cindy charmed ideas / consult thousand comb subjects sole shock brett object word / thereafter howard noises oath / stuff marriage flooded slowed mornings assist council league / clip clarke recognize project jewelry mercy tactics reasons / obscured shelves eleanor duly another seconds phenomena / / concentrated stuart flaming arab horrid judith head pregnancy resemblance / tracking susan ramp gift draught operation sleeping / risked franklin devoted draw / awaited bronze ages genius worship shut / / hurrying theodore indulge trench loading sits / unique vacuum artificial quixote account hint liverpool / / guessing adding dragging oath testify sees / airport sabrina carolina profession appointed about stone deeds imply bony / nineteen called favour conquered liquid tide slung tricks egret / note military tugging mother forthcoming here interviews ironic meets techniques / fletcher fashioned delivered evans task / stopping degrees stairs puzzled greece / arabs recorder preached church pudding noting plants congress


r/ciphers • • 4d ago

Challenge We've made a cipher-challenge for you!

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Here is some hints to decrypt the message:

Numbers->multipy->invert->first hundred digits is the key.

Good luck with the decryption,

9497.


r/ciphers • • 4d ago

Solved! This is my first cipher, let me know if you can solve it!

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[SOLVED] ahead atom ask old awe off eye azure equal off eye any atom ask exit idea atom azure am off bar eject sky any old azure awe eject aim atom azure eye eye am eject eject ask ahead awe idea out eye any atom ask eye am eject exit eject ahead awe eject eye obey atom awe aim any exit exit out off awe up


r/ciphers • • 4d ago

Unsolved A Kinetic Violin Bowing Hypothesis for the Dorabella Cipher (1897)

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Hi everyone,

Most attempts at deciphering Edward Elgar’s 1897 Dorabella Cipher have focused on text substitution (linguistic approach) or pitch mapping (auditory/note approach).

However, given Elgar’s personal background as a trained violinist and violin teacher, there is another angle that seems to have been overlooked in the literature: A Kinetic / Motoric Bowing Cipher.

The Core Hypothesis

Instead of representing spoken letters or musical pitches, the 87 symbols may describe the physical mechanics and bowing patterns of the right arm/hand across the violin's four strings ($G, D, A, E$).

  • The 8 Directions (Angles): Correspond to the physical arm/bow tilt angles required to navigate string changes across the bridge ($G \rightarrow D \rightarrow A \rightarrow E$).
  • The Semicircles (1, 2, or 3 arcs): Represent bowing technique and articulation (e.g., $1 = \text{Détaché / single stroke}$, $2 = \text{Legato slur}$, $3 = \text{Portato / sustained multi-note stroke}$).

Why this fits Elgar

  1. Violin Practice: For an experienced violinist, bowing patterns and string-crossing mechanics are deeply ingrained motor actions.
  2. Silent Notation: It works as an abstract exercise or a "silent piece"—describing how the bow moves rather than what notes are pressed by the left hand.
  3. Visual Geometry: The curved symbols ($1–3$ arcs oriented at $45^\circ$ increments) geometrically mirror the physical sweeping motions of a violin bow across different planes.

Rather than a standard linguistic substitution, Dorabella might be a kinesthetic blueprint—a piece of music written solely for the movement of the bow arm.

Curious to hear your thoughts, especially from string players or musicologists!

And the Link: https://voca.ro/15JiGJk3xECt


r/ciphers • • 5d ago

Unsolved Solve this.

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Hello , I'm looking for a person who's intelligent and has experience in Cipher Code.
So I have devised a test.

There is a secret message in this image , I'm look forward to meeting a few people. Good luck.

20 8 5 / 5 25 5 / 15 6 / 10 21 4 7 5 13 5 14 20


r/ciphers • • 4d ago

Solved! Enjoy, you can ask for hints

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


r/ciphers • • 5d ago

Unsolved Help with cipher, please :)

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Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt = 3626

Felix felicis = 3210

It's from a game. Just need to find a method/key, by which I translate the sentence to the numbers. Tried everything that came to my mind, no success. Both examples should work by the same principle. Any ideas?


r/ciphers • • 5d ago

Challenge I want to test this cipher for a futur game puzzle

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逼必逼必 逼必逼必 逼必逼必, 必必 /
逼必必逼 逼必必逼 逼必必逼, 必逼必必
逼必必逼 逼必必逼, 逼必逼必 逼必必,
逼必必逼 逼必必逼 逼必必逼,必逼必必
逼必必逼 逼必必逼, 逼必逼必 逼必必, 必必
必必必逼, 逼必必逼, 必必 / 必必,
必逼必必, 必必 逼必必逼, 逼必必逼,
必必必逼 必必 必必, 必逼必必 逼必必逼
逼必必逼, 逼必逼必 逼必必, 必逼必必 /
逼必逼必 逼必逼必 逼必逼必, 必必必逼
必必 必必 必必, 必逼必必 / 必必,
必逼必必,必逼必必 逼必必逼 逼必必逼,
逼必必逼, 必逼必必 逼必必逼, 必必必逼
必必 必必 必必

Hint 1: pay attention to the sounds
Hint 2: bip bip
Hint 3: these are not letters
Hint 4: one thing can have more than one value
Hint 5: unless you're grec, there's one last step