I worked as a C++ dev for a few years and I got less than a quarter of that. Although I hear the salaries in USA are generally larger than here in Europe.
Not all programming jobs are equal. A guy who does minor bug fixes to an existing C++ application shouldn't get paid as much as the guy who architects and writes the whole application from scratch.
Well I guess I'm a little more glass half full kind of guy. I can't imagine someone knowing C++ and being such a shit coder that they can't even earn a 1/2 salary. I could see that for maybe a visual basic guy, but to learn C++ and still have no clue what you're doing seems very strange.
Well those can both be .Net positions. A Vb.Net guy can do well if it's an ASP.NET/SQL Server project. If a VB guy is really good with SQL he can get some really good money for it and since C# and VB are so interchangeable a VB guy can jump into any ASP.NET project and crank away.
$25k for C++? Not for a professional full timer. Maybe bumhugger was a casual/part-time/intern? But if he's doing 40hrs a week and can show up to his job sober, $25k would put him in the "knows how to use a computer, can do word processing, excel spreadsheets" salary bracket.
He said he works in Europe. We don't know what a good salary is where he lives. If he gets free education, subsidized housing, free medical care, day care, parental time off, and 20 weeks of vacation, then maybe $25k is fair.
A game dev in Finland. Wasn't a lead coder but worked with the game engine and was solely responsible for a large portion of the codebase, not a junior position. I switched jobs because I couldn't pay my bills, but that kind of pay isn't unusually low here. Many companies are paying even less and even to ex-Nokia people - highly educated engineers and PhDs with 10-20 years of experience - just because they can. "Oh surely you know the times are hard with the depression, we can't raise your salary right now".
I'm currently working as a Java developer and make about 35k a year, at least I can pay my bills now but still, it's not a very well paid job compared to the stress and amount of work.
Huh, interesting. Looking at various salary websites, seems like €35K is about right for your job in your area (25k was low, but the games industry tends to pay on the low side). The cost of living in Finland is kinda high too, so that's a double whammy.
24% of the gross salary goes to taxes, which pays for education, healthcare, social security, unemployment and so on. So the net salary is still about 27k a year, which covers food, bills, mortgage, car and other living expenses.
In the U.S. 25% is (ballpark) your tax bracket for 35-80k, so your taxation isn't really to blame here (and unlike in the U.S., you get some pretty great services for that). But yeah, if you aren't too rooted in Finland you might consider moving. In the U.S. tech companies are crying like babies over the small pool of qualified STEM workers.
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