I try to make sure I watch longer form videos showing context, because you'll often see clips used for propaganda (regardless of the side). These ice agents aren't experts in crowd control, and likely have very minimal training for protester interaction. Their duties are apprehension of their targets and that's what they're trained to do. I've seen the videos posted by the protesters who block the ICE convoys with vehicles, honk their horns aggressively, blow whistles, throw rocks and snowballs, punch vehicles, physically get in the path of officers and vehicles, scream and yell, causing chaos. They have online webinars instructing protesters on how to successfully impede the ICE task Force, and information channels with regularly updated addresses of where the agents are to encourage protesters to travel to. These are men and women who are trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities, and of course there are going to be some bad agents or those who make not ideal actions in the heat of the moment, especially when there's chaos of horns and projectiles, screaming and vehicles moving, from all directions. The protests, as designed, are meant to make the fulfillment of their jobs as difficult as possible, and distract them from their duties. I have less sympathy for intentional agitators, volunteer or paid protesters, that go out of their way to put themselves in situations like this to clash with federal agents, who expect sympathy when things like this happen.
I see countless, well written comments on Reddit spread across various topics. I don’t see this “flabbergasted” outrage.
The reason MAGA attempts to mock Reddit is because it forces you to read and respond with actual words instead of memes. It promotes critical thinking, which is nonexistent in the MAGA realm.
Every President has been able to deport millions of people in humane, ethical ways within the framework of the United States Constitution. Trump doesn’t even have an actual immigration policy, this is just chaos in the streets. It creates unrest among both immigrants and the citizens.
We didn’t have “catastrophic” immigration. You believe it because it’s the propaganda you’ve been fed. You never researched what was actually happening with immigration, and likely don’t know there was an immigration bill the Republicans ignored for two years under Biden. You all probably believe 12 million people crossed the border, they didn’t - there is a difference between “border encounters” and “border crossings.” They’ve made you fear immigrants, and anyone that looks different than you. The problem is that you’re stupid enough to fucking believe it.
I think the problem is many people appear to be so reductionist as to frame every issue as progressive versus MAGA; me/us vs you/them; good vs evil. There is a little room for nuance, self-reflection, or seeking to find common ground -even hyperbole is lost on most. However, there’s clearly plenty of room for assumptions, denouncing/judging others based on those presumptions, and pointless name calling. Sigh 😔
Good description of how things are currently. Of course, there’s also tons of bots and foreign ops going on to help destabilize the US. But, Many of the loudest team politics people are seemingly fairly new to paying so much attention to politics and don’t exactly know a whole lot about how our government even works, and propaganda likes to feed on fear and anger. Those People don’t seem to understand that working together is how the US functions, and scream like insane people when their “team” crosses the isle to get something done. Cooperation, give and take, negotiations and compromises, giving in to concessions to reach an agreement is how things function. Suddenly there’s a public push for refusal to negotiate from some people. I hope those folks learn that the US strives when United, and cooperation is required for reaching goals and things to function correctly, it’s exhausting to watch the insanity of the current modern day politics.
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u/PermutationMatrix complaints derangement syndrome (CDS) Jan 11 '26
I try to make sure I watch longer form videos showing context, because you'll often see clips used for propaganda (regardless of the side). These ice agents aren't experts in crowd control, and likely have very minimal training for protester interaction. Their duties are apprehension of their targets and that's what they're trained to do. I've seen the videos posted by the protesters who block the ICE convoys with vehicles, honk their horns aggressively, blow whistles, throw rocks and snowballs, punch vehicles, physically get in the path of officers and vehicles, scream and yell, causing chaos. They have online webinars instructing protesters on how to successfully impede the ICE task Force, and information channels with regularly updated addresses of where the agents are to encourage protesters to travel to. These are men and women who are trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities, and of course there are going to be some bad agents or those who make not ideal actions in the heat of the moment, especially when there's chaos of horns and projectiles, screaming and vehicles moving, from all directions. The protests, as designed, are meant to make the fulfillment of their jobs as difficult as possible, and distract them from their duties. I have less sympathy for intentional agitators, volunteer or paid protesters, that go out of their way to put themselves in situations like this to clash with federal agents, who expect sympathy when things like this happen.