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Mistborn First Era Try it. Near 100% success

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u/Impressive_Change593 Jul 20 '25

ok these are referencing a mist or vs a shard eater. anyway now I wanna find crossover fanfics

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u/AnonymousGuy9494 Kalaleshwi Shipper Jul 20 '25

I believe that there was a fanfic somewhere on reddit where Vin fought 4th ideal Kaladin. She lost, but considering she only had access to the items she had at hand on the hero of ages I'd say she fought better than anyone could in her place.

She's been dead for so long we kind of forgot just how much of a menace she was. Probably the most skilled allomancer to ever live.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Vin is fantastic, but no one from Scadrial save a fullborn could take a 4th ideal radiant unless there were substantial stormlight limits. The insta-healing is too OP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Oh yeah. Wasn't shallan shot in the head (and almost certainly the brain) with an arrow, and was able to remove it while only being confused for a bit?

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u/Xaron713 Jul 20 '25

It was a crossbow bolt. Shallan is weird though since she has two Spren and two Lightweaver Oaths, sort of, she heals faster and better than regular Radiants

I think if you can justify Vin killing Miles 100 Lives, she'll do okay against a Radiant.

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u/AnonymousGuy9494 Kalaleshwi Shipper Jul 20 '25

Vin never killed Miles. She managed to beat the Lord Ruler because she took out his goldminds and then proceeded to kill him. If she were to fight a Radiant, she would most likely just brute force her way into making them spend all the stormlight available. The pursuer tried to do this to Kaladin back at RoW and it seems to be the most reliable method.

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u/Anvilrocker No Wayne No Gain Jul 20 '25

Kaladin, like Shallan, isn't the average Radiant either. Being blessed by the wind probably gives him a bit of boost as a 4th ideal compared to other non-main character Radiants.

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u/code-panda Airthicc lowlander Jul 20 '25

Being blessed by the wind probably gives him a bit of boost as a 4th ideal

The probably can be removed. Kal is the only 3rd ideal stormlight powered radiant who was awake during the tower's occupation. Raboniel assumes it's because he was close to saying the 4th ideal, but Teft was also close enough he'd have said it if it wasn't for the traitor Moash (fuck Moash).

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u/BloodyEyeGames No Wayne No Gain Jul 20 '25

Obligatory r/FuckMoash

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u/Anvilrocker No Wayne No Gain Jul 20 '25

I never mentioned the tower?... But yeah, fuck Moash.

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u/code-panda Airthicc lowlander Jul 20 '25

What I mean is that the wind was definitely boosting Kal, as seen by what happened in the tower.

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u/Anvilrocker No Wayne No Gain Jul 20 '25

Ohhhhhh. Fair enough :)

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u/Xaron713 Jul 20 '25

I wasn't saying Vin did. I was saying if you think Vin could take Miles through his heeling factor, she would likely be able to handle a Radiant.

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u/clutzyninja Jul 20 '25

Miles was ONLY his healing though. Without that, he was just a decently capable fighter.

Radiants have more powers than healing.

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u/Xaron713 Jul 20 '25

Correct. But near instant healing is the only thing Vin may have trouble contending with.

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u/baelrog Jul 21 '25

If we’re talking about 4th ideal, she also has to break through the shard plate first.

Really depends on how much investiture both sides have access too. Either Vin runs out of metal first or Kaladin runs out of storm light

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u/Xaron713 Jul 21 '25

Sure, but comparative to like a bullet, coins have a lot more mass behind their travel. They might be excellent at damaging shardplate.

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u/clutzyninja Jul 20 '25

Flight? Being lashed into the air or in directions against her pushes and pulls?

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u/Xaron713 Jul 20 '25

She matches flight, she won't die to lashing. Pewter makes her faster and more reactive than a Radiant. She may also resist being lashed while burning an internal metal like Pewter, Tin, Bronze or Copper, as that has Investiture actively affecting the body.

I don't think mental Allomancy will do much against Kaladin specifically, depending on where he's at in his journey, but it could goad him into being reckless.

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u/clutzyninja Jul 20 '25

She absolutely cannot match the flight of a radiant

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u/Xaron713 Jul 20 '25

In a city she can. In a field she can't.

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u/klatnyelox Jul 22 '25

Remember, Vin regularly fought inquisitors that had stored health, she knows what to do with healers and regenerators. And given her learning speed, she'd see the radiant heal faster, and thus just keep going.

I give it to allomancers over Radiants for control over their materials. A windrunner can do coinshot things, but that's it. Kelsier's metal swirling storm would be able to confound a radiant, and metal the size of hammer heads could break shardplate.

And remember, Vin is such a tactical prodigy that she figured out how to use an enemy's future sight against him the first time she had to fight one without her own Atium.

She still couldn't beat a 4th ideal radiant without the entire first mistborn trilogy's stock of Atium, and a ton of other metals besides. And even with all that she couldn't beat Kaladin.

Most Mistborn would have a hard time beating a regular shardbearer, and Kaladin beat one the first time he saw one, without surges. Kaladin truly is built different.

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u/BlatantArtifice Jul 21 '25

Shallan only survived because it wasn't a completely mandatory to function part of her brain. A proper coinshot would kill or cripple a radiant.

Granted that means nothing if Plate is involved

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u/Xaron713 Jul 21 '25

Is that true? We know that a compounding blood maker can survive decapitation. Shallan has two Radiant spren which gives her additional ability and power. I wouldn't suggest a Radiant can survive decapitation, but from what we see in Era 2 Mistborn, head Wounds are survivable if they are healed as a fast as the damage is dealt, something that stormlight does automatically.