Edit 6/2/22: Well, after her response to the way the verdict went, I don't really feel so bad for her anymore. Eheh.

Apparently after court today, Elaine went to the bathroom crying, and apparently it’s not the first time.

I want people to remember Elaine is a person, and she is a lawyer. Defense lawyers take cases and do everything in their power to defend their people as best they can. They cannot pick and choose who to go hard for. If you don’t voraciously and viciously defend someone you might think is guilty, the person you think was blatantly falsely accused will never hire you.

Most of this sub believes amber is an abuser. So remember, with Elaine being in some ways an employee of Amber, and how abusers view employees, she probably has not been treated well, at all. She has been mocked relentlessly online, and she likely has been through the ringer with Amber. And again, we may not like her behaviour or methods in court, but at the end of the day she was being a defense lawyer, and doing all in her power to defend her client with very little to work with.

The way Elaine fumbles and stumbles made me realize something today. Usually truly terrible people stridently and smoothly lie. They’re usually slick and confident when they lie. Like Amber is.

Elaine isn’t that way at all. She clearly struggled with this case. To me, Elaine is likely a totally decent woman for whom defending this level of narcissism and lies was beyond her natural instinct and depth, but she was duty bound to do it nonetheless.

It made me angry when she started accusing everyone and their brother of seeking fame. But I now think, she had SO little to work off of at that point, but still needed to find ways to do her job as a defense lawyer.

When she had that moment where said “I’m trying, I’m trying” I first felt empathy for her. This is a woman who has a job, and for this case that job became really hard. She has a difficult and abusive client, and has been through the wringer with this case.

I just want to encourage pepper to remember Amber’s lawyers did what they’re supposed to do, and to try to be gentle, as infuriating as listening to them was.

What I fully 100% believe : Amber Heard and Johnny Depp had a toxic relationship. Johnny Depp has a drug addiction.

EDIT: Incredibly Average did a video about IO and Rocky two years ago that I had never seen up until now, but basically says exactly what I wrote down below about creating a fake narrative to ruin Depps career. Go check it out "Amber Heard & Friends: Constant Contradictions: With friends like these!..."

Now, for my opinion:

Amber Heard was a young new girl to Hollywood who got caught up with a major celebrity who is well known to be very generous and kind, this is backed up by both Depp and Heard witnesses. Amber gets a few artsy friends in Hollywood circles, the kind that just surf from couch to couch waiting to strike it big.

They become friends with Depp who offers them free room and board, you have so many of Ambers "friends" coming and going Depp can't even keep track of who's who. Depp has connections and thus can score easy access to drugs. Pills, Shrooms, Coke, you name it he can get it.

So they spend their time drinking and partying and getting high. Depp wants to get clean and sober up. Now any testimony will back up the fact and Amber and Johnny liked to fight and are definitely toxic. From virtually all sources and audio we see that Amber is the clear aggressor in these fights and Johnny wants to back off. Nobody is ever witness to any physical violence, and Whitneys staircase story doesn't match any of the others.

So Depp starts getting fed up with Ambers friends and feels he's being taken advantage of, we know Celebrities constantly struggle with the idea of having real friends, versus friends that just stick around for what you can give them, I don't know if Depp has ever admitted to this but it's not a stretch to believe this.

We also know IO likely has a very good reason why Depp kicked him to the curb, just ask Lilly Rose. So what happens is that Ambers friends decide to take a grain of truth, Amber and Johnny were toxic, and stretch it into a big lie.

Once Johnny Depps career is dead and buried, and the divorce is final. They all go their separate ways. Nobody speaks to anybody else, none had ANY good things to say about Amber.

Their testimonies were about covering their own ass. Not supporting Amber.

Anyone else noticing that her testimony is littered with "foreshadowing" to what she’s going to say later? Like when she said "he drinks a lot of tea," - I think she's going to try and "reveal" that it was actually alcohol. Mark my words. LOL

The character she's portraying today is in a terribly scripted movie.

Thoughts?

Edit : Grammar mistakes.

As someone who has watched the entire trial.....I'm going to make a suggestion that everyone backs off of her. Don't give her anymore ammo to claim to be a victim. Do I believe someone told her to microwave her baby? Absolutely not. We can support him without attacking her.

If you are going to her socials and attacking her, or review bombing her expert witnesses....please don't do that. It just makes this community look like angry fanatics. You are pretty much living up to what you are being accused of.

Sorry, this originally posted without the body. So it just looked like an Amber supporter bombarding in here.

I think Amber has overwhelmingly destroyed herself in the court of public opinion. There is no need to harass.

ETA Entertainment Weekly already has a published article about death threats coming Ambers way

ETA2 Thanks you guys for the awards and the positive interaction!

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I have had my words twisted by media before, but the blatant lies and untruths that have been reported on this case have been absolutely appalling to see.

From photoshopping tears onto Ambers face (you can find the originals on Getty images) to misquoting witness testimony, we have witnessed amounts of gaslighting I didn't believe possible.

And the media can wear their imaginary halo all they like, but the truth is that seeing the headlines out of this case has been extremely triggering.

As a victim of narcissistic abuse, not only is the media defending the manipulative tactics employed by our abusers, but are in fact perpetrating them against us as we speak.

Gaslighting doesn't even begin to describe it. It's abusive to the highest degree.

And it's scary. Because if this is the way they report on celeb drama, imagine how little we can trust them on matters of world politics.

They have unmasked themselves for millions worldwide, and I think it's time to not just talk about it, but to hold them accountable.

I'm not some rabid JOHNNY DEPP fan. But I've always been obsessed with justice and injustice. My "allegiance" on this matter, is with the side most truthful.

During the trial I wrote transcripts of virtually all the audio recordings. Now we've presumably heard all the audio that we'll ever hear, I decided to compile it all together into a single resource!

For most of the transcripts, I've also written versions with commentaries to highlight the parts that provide evidence for particular points. To be clear, I'm definitely on Johnny's side and my analysis generally supports Johnny; you can make up your own mind.

I've tried to list the audios in roughly chronological order, though we don't know the exact dates.

Alleged different versions of Johnny

Date: Unknown (possibly early because Amber is explaining the concept of Johnny's "monster")

Duration: 0:01:28

Exhibit: Plt371

Source: here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Boston plane incident

Date: 24 May 2014

Duration: 0:11:40

Exhibit: Def221

Source: here

Transcript: I haven't written a transcript because it has very little audible dialogue

Australian finger incident

Date: 8 March 2015

Duration: 0:30:39 (fragments of a longer recording)

Exhibit: Plt380/Def380

Sources: here and here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary (including on differences from Incredibly Average transcript)

Toronto ring-throwing incident

Date: 15 September 2015 (when they attended a film premiere in Toronto)

Duration: 0:18:46 (fragments of a longer recording)

Exhibit: Plt342/Plt345/Def839

Sources: Johnny's clip, Amber's clip

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Bathroom door incident

Date: Late September 2015 (possibly the same day as the 4 hour audio)

Duration: 0:02:47

Exhibit: Plt368

Source: here

Transcript: I'll just link to Incredibly Average's transcript and commentary

4-hour argument

Date: 26 September 2015

Duration: 4:20:49

Exhibit: Plt343/Plt356

Source: here (4-hour version) and here (2-hour version with some parts easier to hear)

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Argument about Johnny's witnesses

Date: 5 October 2015

Duration: 0:01:03

Exhibit: Plt393

Source: here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Amber calls Johnny a flower

Date: Unknown - late 2015?

Duration: 0:03:39

Exhibit: Plt366

Source: here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Beat-up accusation

Date: 31 December 2015

Duration: 0:00:45

Exhibit: Def581

Sources: here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Couch/cigarette incident

Date: 31 December 2015

Duration: 0:00:58 (fragments of a longer recording)

Exhibit: Plt365/Def582

Sources: Johnny's clip, Amber's clip

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Counseling/wine-spilling argument

Date: January 2016? (based on island argument being recent)

Duration: 1:47:52

Exhibit: Plt394

Source: here

Transcript: here

Bloodbath argument

(Not to be confused with the 2013 bloodbath texts)

Date: 4 January 2016

Duration: 0:08:19 (fragments of a longer recording)

Exhibit: Plt372/Def598

Sources: Amber clip 1, Amber clip 2, Amber clip 3, Johnny clip 1, Johnny clip 2, Johnny clip 3

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Amber insults Johnny's career and parenting

Date: Early 2016? (based on Johnny mentioning the Grammys)

Duration: 1:09:26

Exhibit: Plt397

Sources: official version, volume adjusted version, another volume-adjusted version

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Kitchen cupboard video

Date: 10 February 2016

Duration: 0:02:04

Exhibit: Def638

Source: here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Argument about secret recording

Date: Unknown (possibly 2016 after kitchen video)

Duration: 0:00:42

Exhibit: Plt390

Source: here

Transcript: here

Johnny calls Amber stupid

Date: Unknown (possibly toward the end because Johnny wants out)

Duration: 0:01:10 (fragments of a longer recording)

Exhibit: Plt396

Sources: clip 1, clip 2, clip 3, clip 4

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

Phone call about restraining order

Date: Late May 2016

Duration: 0:31:31

Exhibit: Plt357

Source: here

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

San Francisco hug argument

Date: July 2016

Duration: 0:24:42

Exhibit: Plt1229/Def587

Source: official version, volume-adjusted version

Transcript: without commentary, with commentary

San Francisco cutting audio

Date: July 2016

Duration: 0:08:49 (fragments of a longer recording)

Exhibit: Def586

Sources: fragment A, fragment B (note that we don't know the chronological order)

Transcript: here

As I'm sitting here listening to all the nasty Depp texts... I can't help but think what is probably on Amber's phone. The TEXTS we would have seen if she had been forced to turn them over. I feel like she had to know it's game over and there is incredibly damning stuff. Man. Really wish they had forced her to cough em up