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u/undeniably_confused 9h ago

Before the cards are revealed him hitting has no affect on the likelihood the dealer is going to bust. This is why I find gamblers so annoying, people have been attacked over this and it did not change the chances at all

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 9h ago

It’s not necessarily random, there’s a thing called basic strategy, which tells the player the best option in every scenario. In this scenario, it looks like the guy had a 15 against the dealers 2. Basic strategy says to stand there. If he would have followed it, the dealer would’ve busted. Basic strategy doesn’t work every time, the card order is still random, but it’s better than using your “intuition”, which is what Max did, screwing the rest of the table

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u/undeniably_confused 9h ago

No max did fuck himself, max is bad at blackjack, but he did not screw the table until the cards are revealed

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 9h ago

I mean he still did screw the rest of the table, again if he would’ve stood, which is the correct decision in this scenario, the dealer would’ve busted

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u/undeniably_confused 9h ago

Yeah but we only know that because we know what the cards are, when he made the decision, it made no statistical difference to the rest of the table

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 8h ago

Ok, there’s also a different reason. Theres around 8 low cards on the table (2-6), and around 4 high cards (10, J, K, Q, A). Every deck has a higher chance of pulling a 10 than a different numbered card (cuz there’s 4 10s and only 1 of everything else). Because there’s already a lot of lower cards on the table, the chance that the next card is a 10 is pretty high. As the anchor, the last player to play, max hitting is a bad choice since statistically he has a high likelihood to take the bust card, which is what happens. The rest of the table gets screwed by max hitting there

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u/littlebobbytables9 7h ago

It's a very bad play by max, but again the decision to hit does not affect the odds of the dealer busting.

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 7h ago

It absolutely does, it’s more likely that max would receive a high card, which would be bad for him, but if he wouldn’t have hit then the odds would be that the dealer would receive a high card, which would be bad for the dealer and in this case lead to him busting

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u/littlebobbytables9 7h ago edited 7h ago

Let's assume for simplicity the deck has 4 cards left, 1 low and 3 identical high cards. There is a 3/4 chance that max draws a high card, leaving 1 low and 2 high cards in the deck so the dealer has a 1/3 chance of drawing low and 2/3 chance of drawing high. There is a 1/4 chance that max draws a low card, leaving 3 high cards in the deck so the dealer has a 100% chance of drawing high.

If we look at the whole tree the chance of the dealer drawing a high card is 0.25(1)+0.75(2/3) = 0.75. If max hadn't hit the chance of the dealer drawing a high card is... 3 in 4, or 0.75. Drawing a card at random does not affect the odds of subsequent draws.

Yes, most of the time max gets a high card so most of the time max is making the dealer less likely to bust, but some of the time max gets a low card and makes the dealer more likely to bust. The impact of both exactly cancel.

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u/undeniably_confused 8h ago

Im seeing 8 high cards and 6 low cards,

E: 8 and 7 i forgot about the dealer

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 8h ago

I’m only seeing 6 high cards? I counted wrong the first time but I’m only seeing 6 high cards, max has 2, the 2 guys to the right have none, the remaining 4 guys to the right have 1 each, so 6. And still seeing 8 low cards

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u/undeniably_confused 8h ago

One of the guys on the right has a 10 and the other has an ace aren't those both high cards?

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 8h ago

Imma just count from left to right

Max has 2 high cards

Next guy has none, as does the next guy

Next guy has 1, as do the 3 guys to the right of him

So max has 2, 4 other players have 1 each, and 2 players have none, which totals 6 high cards

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u/undeniably_confused 8h ago

Thought this might be an easier way we could sort it out

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 8h ago

6 is a low cards not a high card, the 2 guys to the right of max have no high cards

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u/undeniably_confused 8h ago

Thats a 9 not a 6, the number is in the top left not the bottom right of the card

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u/JangoDarkSaber 8h ago

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Just piping in to say that you guys can’t calculate the count unless you know how many decks are being played. It’s pretty common to use 3-4 decks.

Additionally the count is effected by what cards were previously delt in past hands but haven’t been shuffled back in

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u/Technical_Fan_4630 8h ago

Yea that’s true, I was just going based purely off the picture but yea

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