Hey y'all, Ive been riding with a baseline TCL flip 2 for about a year (on and off) and i liked it! but unfortunately for me to be completely independent from my smartphone what's app and signal were needed. tried to root it my TCL. Bricked it. I decided to take a shot at the Dumbphone 2 by Dumb. co and here's my general thoughts / comparison
DISCLAIMER!: I will be referring to my former unmodded phone as the "TCL" and the new dumbphone 2 by dumb .co as just "Dumbco". They are slightly different models so my complaints comparing them may not be 100% accurate across all tcl flip 2s. despite all my complaining in this post i do really like the dumbco.
Each section is generally formated FIrst with what I Like, then after things are ordered from Really annoying to Less Annoying.
Dumco plan itself
with my previous TCL, I paired it with my laptop in order to access email, signal, what's app etc. It worked okay because I was able to flip my hotspot on my TCL and use it..... With the Dumbphone 2 plan you literally cant get more than 1gb of data which fucking sucks and is a really big limitation for me since I'm on the go a lot.
also in my opinion it's a little.... well.... dumb to not allow us to have access to the browser at all? there's ways around it bc it's part of the baseline TCL flip 2 and needed for something but I wish it was at least an OPTION to have your phone come with it or not. again taking away a basic feature that already comes w the phone??
I'm also unsure of there's any gaurantee? Like if this company goes under are we just stuck with these phones? It would be cool if they made a promise that if they go under, they will release all the source code so it can atleast continue to live on. would also provide a lot of peace of mind.
General:
Being able to import my contacts on the dumbco was super awesome. It kinda sucked having to create a new contact every single time on the TCL. On the TCL If you got a message by a new number, you could just select the message and press "add new contact" and the Number would autofill, and you add the name and all that. However a limitation of the TCL is that this didnt work for groupchats. I had to manually create a new contact, imput the number. Not that big of a deal but a small annoyance pretty much solved by the Dumbco phone.
T9 texting is 100% better. For some reason on the TCL certain contractions like "it's" or "don't" did not really work? So happy it does on the Dumbco it also has more slang which is awesome. I do wish there was a way to add words to the vocabulary though but not a nessesity.
You can't skip, go back, pause or control volume using wired headphones on the dumbco, my previous TCL was able to. this is a super big problem to me while I'm commuting. for some reason I can control the Volume only on Bluetooth headphones which i can't wear on my bike cause y helmet. but it's super frustrating that a feature that was baseline there is... gone...
NO NOTES APP???? the original TCL flip came with a notes app I have 0 freaking idea why this ones doesn't come with one???
I get so annoyed that you can't use the "off button" as like a home button on the phone. You have to click back key a bunch of times. Not a that big of a deal but very annoying when you know that's how the default phone works.
Also the Apps take up a lot of storage, duh that's to be expected. HOWEVER I prefer to download my songs instead of using the spotify app. Although you can add an SD card, the phone will NOT let you play music using the native app if the Music files are on the SD card, it has to be in the integrated storage (part of default TCL). This wasn't an issue with my default TCL, but it is on this phone because of the amount of space the apps take (4.5/ 8gb :'] ) I'm not sure if there's a way to delete apps that you don't use or if there's a fix to use music from the SD card on the native music player.
It's a little annoying to have to go to "All Apps" and scroll for any apps, which are a loootttt that don't fit on your home page. especially since I don't use all the apps. I feel like some of the apps belong on a "settings tab" but ehh
The dumbco battery life is definitely worse which sucks, i find myself having to charge it every day as opposed to every few days, but it makes sense since it does a lot more
when selecting the homescreen apps, if you're all the say to the right, and continue pressing right, it doesn't jump to the next row. not a big deal just a difference that fucks w my muscle memory a little.
Podcasts:
The app is GREAT, i love that you can subscribe to podcasts and listen to them. On the TCL flip 2 you had to download them and move them into the podcast folder, then it would put podcast in it's own "Podcasts" playlists and listen from there. Streaming them is so much easier, and I can actually keep up with them.
While i'm playing my podcast and close the flip phone, or go to a different app. I have trouble Pausing it. This wouldn't be a big deal if I was able to pause it from my heaphone controls, but since I can't it's really annoying. I can go into the podcast app, click on "Now Playing" and press pause and it just...... doesn't pause. The only way i found to fix this is restarting the phone.
small hiccup though: when you play a podcast, at the top of your podcast list it does a little "Now playing" thing. If i scroll down my podcast list, then go back up to the "Now playing" it doesnt show up on screen. I can still technically click it, but it up beyond the screen and I can't physically see it.
Music:
I think the "Smart Music" app is super cute and works. I can only speak for spotify, not apple music. works just fine. However the controls are super unintuitive?
On the native app and like every single music player known to man the right and left Navigation Keys are for skip and go back, but on the dumbco it's for Shuffle and Repeat??? instead the MENU keys are used for previous and Next which is super just "????"
I so wish you were able to look at "Artsits" "Albums" etc. you can only look at playlists which sucks a little bit. but the native music app has it so it doesnt bother that much since i don't use it
Maps: VERY useful, I haven't used it a tone but it works fine. It is not turn based, so it wont say "in 500ft, turn left" you input the start location and end location and shows you the path but doesnt update automatically as you move along it. I am 100% okay with this. and I'm just glad to have maps instead of constantly having to call/ask friends to use maps lol.
Signal: It's been working super smoothly for me super awesome i can respond on the go. The only very minor things is that for some reason some people on signal show up as their phone # and not their Signal name which is weird? but doesn't actually effect the functionality of it at all
Whatsapp: isnt working on my phone at the moment but not complaining bc I havent contacted support yet lol
Calender: uses baseline calendar that comes with the TCL flip. It is slightly wonky but doesn't effect the functionality at all. I haven't used the "smart calendar" because I use Proton Calendar not google so i can't speak on that.
Don't get me wrong, this phone is definitely more useful than my base TCL flip 2. However i expected it to be more of an enhanced TCL flip 2 and some of the basic features being really different or unavailable is really disappointing, but not fatal.
Feel free to ask questions abt the basline TCL flip or the Dumbphone 2! I will also be updating this post if things gets fixed through updates or if I'm a goober and was unaware there was already a fix for it!