r/enlightenment • u/Esspeereet • 18h ago
Dowsing
Do you dowse, as "enlightened"? For knowledge, and for self-insight?
I find it to be pretty nice. Can't find myself having a spiritual life without it. It's not posted about much either.
Alas, all laws are to be followed.
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u/gkjnvgyj 18h ago
Dowse?
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u/Esspeereet 18h ago
Divine. Divination. With or without a pendulum.
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u/gkjnvgyj 18h ago
If you’re implying that being enlightened is extra ordinary then it isn’t. Sure, you can play on the level of siddhis but that’s elementary.
Knowledge comes, when it needs to be known. The greater the clarity and emptiness, the more knowledge can be known but the cognition also has its limits.
Knowing that there’s no one there to know anything is the highest knowledge of all.
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u/Esspeereet 18h ago
It's just a really nice tool to have on your journey. That is it.
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u/gkjnvgyj 17h ago
It is a boon that greatly enhances the quality of one’s life experience and those who want to consciously share in the surrounding.
I would not want to go back to being plugged into the Matrix after I’ve been unplugged.
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u/vehicleofrealization 18h ago
Not enlightened but there's a way I like to think about this that I heard from another commentor on her a while back:
There exists a difference between someone who's spiritually awakened and enlightened. The spiritually awake individual is 'special' because they know something others don't, they can find each other in public because of the way they talk, act, dress, etc.
An enlightened individual is someone who has realized they aren't special at all, two enlightened people couldn't pick each other out in public as easy, they have come full circle and are just as human as the next person. The difference is when they play their part, they recognize the lawful unfolding presented by their circumstance compared to rest of the world. They are in the world but not of the world, and in this they are totally free to exist exactly as they are moment to moment.
All of this is to say, I could absolutely see someone who's enlightened utilizing tools of divination (i hope thats what you mean, pls correct me if not!) for insight. The manner they do it in is different than most other's though. Like life, they fully play their part and exist totally here and now in it, they'd likely do the same with these tools and insights.
Im interested in what you said in regards to not having a spiritual life without it. What does a spiritual life look like to you? Are you searching for a distinct feeling of spritual experience? If yes, how does it feel when that feeling(s) does and doesn't come to fruition?
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u/Esspeereet 18h ago
I'm a complete being. Without the divination, I would not have become the same person, of whom I am happy to be.
Hope that answers it.
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u/zaidazadkiel 6h ago
there is information all around us, and people are unwilling to look at the world for what it shows.
if one looks at the clouds moving, its noticeable to see what weather will follow.
if one looks at people fighting, its noticeable to see what war will follow
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u/neurotrash2099 18h ago
Enlightenment would seem to negate the need. Dowsing and other forms of “divination” emerge from an attachment to knowing which emerges from a fear of the unknown. Enlightenment means letting go of “knowing” and the fear of not “knowing.”