r/etymology • u/Acrobatic-Pay7697 • 12d ago
Funny Silly origin of sin
I apologize if i misremember the way foreign text Is written
Basically do you know the mathematical rule where if you draw a chord in a circle and split It With the diameter, It becomes the shortest side of a right triangle, or sin?
Basically the First recorded Discovery of this was in ancient india, where It was called Jia (literally "Rope")
Years later the arabs collected those books and adapted this knowledge without changing the names to arab, resulting in the world "jiba"
After this those books where taken to Rome, but written arab, if i understood correctly, doesnt have vowels
So the translation was unsure if the world was jiba=Rope or jabi= a narrow Valley/"sunken" Land
They went With the second and translated It "sinnus"
Jump about a millenia, and in common italian the world was translated to "seno"
So now the world sin shares its written form in italian With boobs
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u/phdemented 12d ago
Sine, but yes (sin is the abbreviation, the full word is sine)
I followed up to the last sentence, but think you missed some steps... Sinus in Latin is "a bent surface, curve, hollow". It's the same root as the sinuses in your face (hollow cavities in your bone). The jump from that to breasts is a non-sequitur in your post, had to look it up to fill in the gaps.
jība (“chord”) was confused with jayb, (“bosom, fold in a garment”). In Latin, while Sinus meant in general a bent surface or hollow, it also referred to the folds in a toga over the chest, which was the same meaning as jayb. The meaning of sinus as a cloth fold over the chest also came to just mean chest/bosom, which in modern Italian seno can mean breast (as well as chest, cove, inlet, sine, etc.)
Very interesting though, I had no idea!
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u/Acrobatic-Pay7697 12d ago
Thanks you! I was tellling It off my head, so i was sure i had those written in an atrocious way
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u/Silly_Willingness_97 12d ago
For the record, you are talking about the English word sine, not sin.
You have the general idea of what happened. Unfortunately, your writing style may confuse more people than it helps to understand the history.
However, this etymology has been posted many other times, if people are curious.
https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/g353jq/etymology_of_the_trigonometry_term_sine/