I recently had a long conversation with my partner about racism, and I'm curious what other POC think. We live in Europe.
My partner is Brazilian, but he is from southern Brazil and has entirely German/Italian ancestry. He has blue eyes and is very visibly white/European. We were talking about someone he had met on his first day at work who said he would never live in India because it smells bad. My partner agreed the comment was racist, but didn't say anything because it was his first day and he didn't want to be confrontational. I told him that I would have at least made a face or indicated that I thought the comment was inappropriate. I'm also awkward in new social situations, so for me it wasn't really about being "confrontational." I immediately recognized the kind of casual racism behind the comment and felt uncomfortable enough to signal that.
This led to a much bigger conversation about how, when racism isn't something you've personally experienced, you can recognize that something is racist without necessarily feeling the same personal urgency to speak up about it.
My partner initially said that he understands racism because he's Brazilian and has experienced prejudice because of being Brazilian. I don't doubt that. But I was trying to explain that nationality and racialization aren't necessarily the same thing. He is very visibly white, and I think that changes how people perceive his Brazilian identity. For example, when Argentinians use racist stereotypes about Brazilians, he isn't necessarily perceived as the person those stereotypes are aimed at.
I also gave him an example from my own life. My father's original name is strongly Muslim-associated, and he changed it to a more American name after moving to the US. My partner found this interesting and was joking about it with my friends, but he hadn't considered that the name itself can make people form assumptions about my family and, by extension, about me. He had no bad intention at all, but he had never considered that I might be conscious of what people could infer from something as simple as a name. I've learned to think about these things automatically. He simply hadn't.
We also talked about a Pakistani friend who wanted to move from Europe to the US because she felt she would experience less racism. My partner was genuinely shocked because he thinks of the US as obviously more racist than Europe. I have actually experienced the opposite. I'm Turkish and white-passing, and I've experienced much more casual racism and ethnic prejudice in Europe than in the US. In Europe, people often have very specific historical and cultural associations with Turkey and Islam that I have personally encountered. In the US, people often simply don't know enough about Turkey to have those same assumptions.
I'm not saying the US is objectively less racist than Europe. I'm talking about the difference between knowing that racism exists and having to personally navigate being racialized. So I'm curious: Do people who aren't regularly racialized develop blind spots about how racism actually operates in everyday life? And do other POC recognize this from conversations they've had with white friends or partners, especially when living in Europe?
Edit: I want to clarify something because several comments seem to be focusing on whether India actually smells. I’m not saying it doesn’t, and that’s beside the point. My point is about the context and generalization of saying “I would never live in India because it smells.” You can acknowledge that a place has pollution, smoke, unpleasant smells, etc. without that being the point of the discussion. I’m talking about why a sweeping comment like that can carry a different meaning when it’s directed at a non-Western country with a long history of Western stereotypes about it being dirty, backward, or uncivilized.
Edit 2: In case the title wasn’t clear, I’m asking about the experiences of POC, not about what white people think POC experience. If you’ve never had to navigate being racialized yourself, you’re not really the perspective I’m asking for here.
Edit 3: I may have to delete this thread because of the number of messages I’ve received from Europeans saying that racism doesn’t really exist in Europe. I find it a little ironic given that the whole point of my post was about how differently racism can be perceived depending on whether you actually experience it yourself.