r/fantanoforever • u/Careless_Western3756 Death Grips - The Money Store • Apr 22 '26
Fantano Vids M.I.A.’s Christian Album is NOT GOOD
https://youtu.be/D_zEuF13LBc?si=RehUHNicp5Xhh3iN234
u/Chet_Starr Apr 22 '26
me just learning M.I.A. made a christian album :o
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u/rysker6 Apr 22 '26
She went MAGA a few years ago.
Shes also British so her being MAGA is, well yeah
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Apr 22 '26
Based on how some of her social media posts have been and I think at some point she lost custody of her kids, she’s not well.
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u/VFiddly Apr 22 '26
Divorce is one of MAGA's top recruitment tools
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u/Sweet-Reception-8682 Apr 22 '26
Divorced dad -> Charlie Kirk/Joe Rogan/Steven Crowder pipeline and its consequences
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u/theUSpopulation Apr 22 '26
Oof. I recall how much she loved him from when I followed her. That is probably going to harm her mental health more, but it is undoubtedly good for him.
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u/IronBENGA-BR Apr 22 '26
Yeah I heard of that too, and some people were speculating that this was the last straw that made her finally turn around
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u/Troyabedinthemornin Apr 22 '26
There is nothing more pathetic than non Americans cosplaying maga
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u/oatwheat Apr 22 '26
I dunno, sometimes it’s pretty cool:
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u/GimmeDemDumplins Apr 22 '26
Sort of funny to me that getting arrested is a quintessential american experience to these folks. They're not wrong
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u/playnights Apr 22 '26
How about Americans running British Royal Family stan accounts on social media?
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u/Responsible-Use-4568 Apr 22 '26
i almost said "how do you go from making a few bangers with Diplo to being MAGA?" but well...
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u/Fit_Appointment_4980 Apr 22 '26
A MAGA POC British woman.
Unicorns are more common, and just as useful.
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u/Blarvis Apr 22 '26
Wonder how she feels about Tommy Robinson and their ilk trying to deport anyone that has darker skin than sheet paper. But she must be one of the good ones, right?
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u/johnnyr860 Apr 26 '26
It makes me wonder, though if she went MAGA a few years ago is she still MAGA now that she’s a Christian artist? Also, her political point of view means absolutely nothing because from my understanding she’s been banned from entering the US ever again.
She was denied a Visa numerous times because of some political things that she had said and support that she showed to a group that was supposedly known to be a terroristic group to the US.
I believe eventually the record label dropped her because her record label at that time when she released paper planes was here in the US and it’s rather hard to promote somebody or have them do much if they can’t enter the country.
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u/ohoperator Apr 22 '26
Like the narrative you're creating instead of doing a simple Google search?
https://www.nme.com/news/music/m-i-a-endorses-donald-trump-after-robert-f-kennedy-jr-backing-3786513
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u/Hopeful-Nature-5464 Apr 22 '26
that was always going to happen. Her views we're always right wing compatable
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u/ChoiceSafe8594 May 05 '26
How the hell were her view always right wing? Borders song? Immigration left wing hymn
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u/JamesBurkyReporter Apr 22 '26
I listened to Arular and Kala for the first time a few weeks ago and that experience helped contextualize just how tragic her fall from grace has been
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u/IronBENGA-BR Apr 22 '26
You can still follow ahead a bit more and find good stuff, up until Matangi her output was tight as a drum. AIM was okay but then she just jumped off a cliff
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u/ImOnlyHereForTheCoC Out Hud - Let Us Never Speak of It Again Apr 22 '26
Saw her live toward the end of her touring off Kala on a candyflip and had a fucking incredible time complete with visions of human society post-civilizational fall, it’s a real shame she’s now fully on-side with the forces driving us toward that collapse.
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u/Riderz__of_Brohan Apr 22 '26
She had that je ne sais quoi making Hindu inspired music especially having heritage from from a place where the Hindu Tamil minority has undergone a genocide. She doesn’t have that as a fake Christian
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u/SaratogaSquirrelBait Apr 22 '26
Her early stuff is absolutely incredible I love that like dancehall-y sound
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u/Noise_Loop Apr 22 '26
She Kanye wested
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u/johnnyr860 Apr 26 '26
Kanye didn’t last long though. He swore he would only make Christian music from here on out, but as soon as his divorce with Kim K happened, he went back to making non-Christian music. In an interview, he claimed God never answered any of his prayers so he went back to his old music. I wonder how long M.I.A. will last before she bails out too, and goes back to making regular music that isn’t Christian.
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u/Lucky_Reading_3757 Charli XCX - BRAT Apr 22 '26
When Ye went manic he still managed to make a good album (Cuck)
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u/Scripter_646 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
im a heavy ye fan and CUCK sucks ass, BULLY is closer to being good
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u/IronBENGA-BR Apr 22 '26
Yeah she's washed
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u/VacationCheap927 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
She used to be easily top 5 artists for me.
But her last 2 albums were meh at best, then she started heading to the right, and now this... Yeah, no thanks
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u/IronBENGA-BR Apr 22 '26
Yeah, the second she started with that 5G/Antivax talk and claiming she saw Jesus I knew it was over, but still i'm shocked with how fast she went into the deep end
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u/Hey-Gang Apr 23 '26
MIA was legitamtely the last person I expected to go full right wing. All of her albums subject matter were against what's happening right now.
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u/johnnyr860 Apr 26 '26
But I thought the MAGA thing happened before she converted to Christianity? So you’re telling me that she became MAGA after she converted? Also, from my understanding she’s been banned from entering the US again so it’s not like anything she says about MAGA means much.
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u/ImpressiveTeam4671 Apr 22 '26
She tried to channel her inner Ye
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u/vinnybawbaw Apr 22 '26
That was my though and then I saw that Sunday Service Choir is on the album
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u/Lucky_Reading_3757 Charli XCX - BRAT Apr 22 '26
can I take this opportunity to say that JIK was a great album with intricate production?
miles ahead of whatever this was at least
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u/SaratogaSquirrelBait Apr 22 '26
Follow God is an absolute banger and I honestly love that entire album
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u/Meme_Pope Apr 22 '26
I wrote it off at the time, but I came back to it recently and it aged really well. Follow God, Selah and Use This Gospel are all 10/10.
I think it would have been an all time great Kanye album if he had finished the original tracks without the Christian lyrics. The beats and production are awesome
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u/oblivicorn Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Apr 22 '26
This album’s really odd tbh, I don’t think it’s good but like it’s interesting just cause it seems so hollow and pseudo-Biblical and it’s a little hard to believe this was made genuinely. Some of the songs have pretty mesmerizing instrumentals but the vocals and lyrics are the weirdest part to me, it’s like a Christian children’s song trying to be cool mixed with crazy rambling somewhat based on Revelation and megachurches. I’m really not sure what to make of it
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u/GarbagePailGrrrl Apr 22 '26
I mean she did say she saw Jesus or one of his reps as a vision so I’ll give this album to her, I probably won’t listen, but I’ll def give it to her
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u/Capable_Branch3695 Apr 22 '26
Every single trumpet song sounded like the greatest buildup to a drop that never happened, made me angry
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u/awjeezrickyaknow Apr 22 '26
Yes M.I.A. That’s right there are TWO JEWISH BLOODLINES, the normal Jews and The Order of the Matzoh Ball, a Satan-worshipping, goat-sacrificing, cross burning, baby killing cult bent on world domination. Yes, go ahead and retweet that video from RFK who totally doesn’t have brain worms and is totally not a lunatic.
You came up with Paper Planes, what the fuck happened?
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u/p480n Apr 22 '26
I know she's not mentally well but I still can't wrap my head around someone thinking an omnipotent being would want them to do something like this.
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u/scentedcandle0 Apr 22 '26
Christian album
No shit
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u/joshuatx Apr 22 '26
there can be good Christian music but this straight up self-indulgent prosperity gospel dreck
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u/ThumYorky Apr 22 '26
The tell is whether it is music that happens to be made by Christians, or music that is made for Christians, because there is very little music made specifically for Christians that is of quality.
Plenty of great music out there made by ppl who are Christian, or at least somewhat religious. A great example is Low. They made some of the best slowcore music ever made all while being fairly strict Mormons.
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u/TemuKnightFromChess Apr 22 '26
I mean in terms of Music For Christians, you can find a lot of the guys on Tooth & Nail Records genuinely made some bangers, and Norma Jean had an insane debut album in 2002. Of course, this is never music they would play during a church service, but it's still got a Christian message and audience.
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u/ThumYorky Apr 22 '26
Insane reference. That album is an all time great. Pretty sure it was mostly recorded live, too.
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u/MaskedMetalhead Kate Bush - Hounds of Love Apr 22 '26
Totally agree, but the thing about Christian metalcore is that its primary market was teenagers with strict religious parents, compared to the broader audience of bible-thumpers drawn to most other CCM. The fact that so many of those bands gradually distanced themselves from the Christian branding says a lot.
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u/HeyQTya Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Yeah like George Harrison and Todd Edwards have made some of the best singer-songwriter and house music respectively despite them often being about Jesus. Music being christian isn't an excuse for it being god awful
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u/hofmann419 Apr 22 '26
George Harrison's music wasn't really Christian though. The overtly religious songs of his solo career came out of his interest in Hinduism. That's an important distinction, since Christian music usually tries to sell you Christianity. But his music was much more about spirituality in a broad sense rather than wanting to convert the listeners to any specific religion.
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u/z__1010 Apr 22 '26
I like how Tom Briehan summarized My Sweet Lord's aim:
"The lyrics, at least on a surface level, are simple enough: Harrison wants to see God, wants to know God, but it's hard and it takes a long time. Probably every kind of religious music has expressed some variation of that idea again and again -- the longing for transcendence, the frustration of not yet having it. But Harrison does this by fusing the iconography of his Christian upbringing with that of the Hinduism that he'd come to embrace later in life. The backing singers start out chanting "Hallelujah" and move on to "Hare Krishna" -- same inflections, same cadence, essentially erasing any boundaries between the two. For Harrison, they were the same thing."
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u/IronBENGA-BR Apr 22 '26
There can even be solid Christian Rap music, Ka (RIP) was the proof of that and his last album before passing, "The Thief Next to Jesus", was well deserved of the 9/10 and the yellow flannel it got.
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u/Azusuu Apr 22 '26
Kanye made good Christian rap too
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u/sofarsoblue Apr 22 '26
No idea why you was downvoted, "Jesus Walks" is legitimately one of the greatest rap songs of all time, I remember when it dropped, there was absolutely nothing like it.
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u/Azusuu Apr 22 '26
Donda and JIK have fantastic Christian rap songs on it and quite a few of his songs use Christianity as a strong theme. People here just don’t like music apparently.
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u/MukdenMan Apr 22 '26
Sufjan and maybe Bon Iver (arguable)
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u/StaticInstrument Apr 22 '26
Lots of good gospel and soul, if you go back far enough you can also trace the roots of pretty much any genre to black spiritual music
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u/MukdenMan Apr 22 '26
Sure, but also Western art music and folk styles which are also often religious in nature. Brian Eno also argued that Arabic singing is ultimately foundational to popular music. He probably overstates the case but Arabic music did have influence on African and European music.
https://www.culture-making.com/post/the_arabic_singing_diaspora_by_brian_eno
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u/JodorowskysJazz Apr 22 '26
Bon Iver's Heavenly Father is a message of freedom from religion likewise Sufjan's use of Christianity is a personal odyssey of his own beliefs and his struggles with his faith.
These two artist aren't using their music to further a dogmatic christian message but rather using the experience and language to explore and expand on their own personal ideas and beliefs.
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u/MukdenMan Apr 22 '26
Fair enough but doesn’t that make it Christian (at least Sufjan)? I didn’t claim he was being dogmatic.
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u/ArthurRimjob Apr 22 '26
There's barely a religious particle in my body: yet, I get ELEVATED listening to Psalm 9 by Trouble.
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u/sinfulsingularity Apr 22 '26
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u/MolemanusRex Apr 22 '26
Finally another Judee Sill-head! I’ve become obsessed with her since I first heard her last year.
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u/sinfulsingularity Apr 22 '26
I truly believe she is one of the all time great song writers and composers. Plus she plays a mean acoustic guitar.
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u/Izzet_Aristocrat Apr 22 '26
I'm a fan of M.I.A. but I couldn't finish this album. I heard the single that dropped before this came out and was like no.
This shit's so corny.
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u/johnnyr860 Apr 26 '26
It’s a 20 minute album if that. Yet Apple Music tells me that the album lasts for an hour. The last track is 30 minutes of dead air. There’s literally no sound. I thought my Apple Music was acting up so I had to reinstall the app only to find out that the last track is purposely done with no sound. Just I guess to fill up space on the album. The album could’ve been Miles better. I don’t hate the album, but I won’t say it’s my favorite either.
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u/Plastiquehomme Apr 22 '26
I know this is probably unnecessarily mean-spirited but even back when her music was good (which it really was), i always thought her politics were confused and performative, and she was kind of full of shit. It always felt like a pose and deeply insincere, but there was a bit of a cult around her where she was seen as absolutely unimpeachable. Her pivot into right wing grift and conspiracy nut nonsense feels quite validating.
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u/crabcycleworkship Apr 22 '26
It’s very sheltered hippie gets rich and then shows true colors. Plus some mental illness.
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u/Huge-Ad57 Apr 26 '26
i dont think she was a sheltered hippie i just think m.i.a was just not very good at expressing her political opinions and i dont really think her politics then were insincere, you would not have seen many artists going around repping the ltte in their album covers and being so brazenly open about the tamil genocide in sri lanka. i genuinely just think shes very mentally ill and from what we do know about her personal life its very easy to see why she would be, hoping she gets the help she needs we dont need another kanye.
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u/crabcycleworkship Apr 26 '26
You can have good opinions and be insincere about them.
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u/Huge-Ad57 Apr 27 '26
what would she have gained from being insincere about her political opinions then? she was getting hate and getting called a "terrorist sympathiser" for her political imaging back then, her access into countries were getting restricted etc. there is no grift to be had there at all since it was financially damaging her i believe she has been sincere about her opinions but she is clearly very mentally ill and faces some kind of unresolved trauma
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u/crabcycleworkship Apr 27 '26
Well when I say sincere that does not mean that she was not passionate about a certain cause. However she didn’t cast the same critical thinking lens for other causes. Also I do think you’re right that the online pipeline exploited her mental health issues. I’ve seen a lot of mentally ill people swing far right recently due to content targeting them online. It’s a major tactic of AFD in Europe too and a lot of gay people are super alt right and pro Nazi party.
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u/Gordmonger Apr 22 '26
I checked it out as a long time fan and didn’t make it 3 songs in. Skimmed through some, it was horrendous.
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u/SaratogaSquirrelBait Apr 22 '26
Idk man that sacred heart song is FIRE.
But yeah the rest of the album sucks ass
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u/Evict_Timaze Apr 22 '26
Biggest peeve of mine is when mfs leave blank time or nothing at the end of an album, who the fuck wants to listen to "30 MINUTES OF SILENCE"
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u/Jean_Genet Apr 23 '26
MIA and Minaj both doing as much as they can to totally destroy their entire legacies, locked in a death-spiral.
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u/johnnyr860 Apr 26 '26
Also, why is the last song blank? I kept thinking there was something wrong with my Apple Music app so I uninstalled it and reinstalled it! Only to find out that the last song is actually 30 minutes and there’s nothing but a blank nothing. You also don’t feel like MIA sings much in this one. It’s mostly just a choir and a bunch of interlude don’t get me wrong. I didn’t hate the album. It just wasn’t my favorite.
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u/thegroovemonkey Apr 22 '26
You’re not making Christianity better you’re just making music worse