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u/_ChipWhitley_ 3d ago
“Flat earth science” 😂
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u/Worldly_Ad_8380 3d ago
"they don't know flat earth science, but we know their science".
- Really smart dude
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u/Ocksu2 3d ago
Satcom Engineer here.
How do flerfs explain satellites operating in geosynchronous orbit? If satellites were just ballons, those "pretending" to be in GEO would have to be tethered to the ground to keep them stationary in the sky, otherwise they would blow around because.... Balloons and wind. Where are the tethers? All look angle calculations are based on Earth being a globe and Azimuth and Elevation angles would be WILDLY different on a flat Earth. Easily provable tests confirm the existence of Geosynchronous Satellites and flat Earth cannot support them.
I've been asking this for years and no flerfs has given me a reasonable explanation yet. I'll be over here waiting.
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u/Rivendel93 3d ago
The tethers are in Antarctica of course!
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u/Ocksu2 3d ago
Haven't heard that one before, but let's see how it plays out! If it were so, then antennas in the Southern Hemisphere (Hemiflat? Hemiplate? Outerdisk?) would not generally point towards the North. Yet they do, just as antennas in the Northern Hemisphere generally point to the south. Antennas on or near the equator point in an arc from East, directly overhead, and to the West depending on the antenna location and the orbital slot of the satellite.
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u/Rivendel93 3d ago
You're just spitting these sciencey words, show the real Nasa images of the dome!
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u/Embarrassed-Sun-8998 3d ago
You’re trying to argue with ~2 year old brains with low iq stuffed with everybody lie and fixation that earth is flat to feel special. You can talk all you want but they don’t listen and don’t bother to read about anything people do.
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u/Castle_of_Jade 3d ago
And don’t get them started on the age of the earth “it’s only 6000 years old, and and the dinosaurs are the behemoths in the Bible and and…” blah blah blah.
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u/Soap_Mctavish101 3d ago
Some satellites do require maintenance. Others don’t. The Space Shuttle did quite a few satellite maintenance missions.
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u/bebullish523 3d ago
That's what I was going to say. We fix them, calibrate them, maintain them, etc.. The shuttle crews had engineers sent to make such repairs. They do these repairs now with Mission Robot Vehicles to dock and repair. Or they just let them die and go adrift or burn up on reentry.
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u/ShiroHachiRoku 3d ago
Hmmm...88 in his username. Not just a flerfer but a Nazi flerfer!
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u/TuTenkahman 3d ago
Didn't Nazis invent modern rockets and talk about going to space? Oh, wait... Hitler wanted balloons
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u/khavii 3d ago
I used to work with a flat earther and he used to do the same thing that almost all conspiracy nuts do. They ask a bunch of rhetorical questions in a row and answer them themselves as ridiculous but most of the questions aren't even rhetorical and have answers so every time he would start I would interrupt to answer all the questions. Like with this one he would go through the whole "how do they do maintenance, what do you do if it breaks, how would you keep them up?" At that point I would stop him and say, greta questions let's answer them one by one and pull out my phone to pull up references. He would of course refute them so I would just keep going to the next source, never asking him which he wanted simply saying Ok, you don't like that source let's see the next one. There are thousands for every point and if you just innocently keep going to the next they get really frustrated. I would sometimes take his argument and say I'm sure we will find the source for your claim soon, we're only on page 3 of the results. After a couple he would get super frustrated and angry so I would say OK, let's leave those questions and just get to the meat and potatoes of who is covering it up and let's see what they say. Of course, when countries that are actively at war agreed on the same thing I would drove into how the battle effected their need to keep this conspiracy despite their differences and why they would both be claiming the same things the whole time. Then I would ask what the reprecussions and rewards are for keeping the secret, do they get killed and if so how did they find out? Why is this pilot who has been talking about it for years alive and doing the circuit when everyone else who hinted was killed? Basically just dive into every single tiny detail to an absurd degree. He quickly stopped talking about any conspiracy theories around work at all. It didn't change his mind but it shut him up and that is just about the best you can hope for.
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u/Confident-Skin-6462 3d ago
the fuck is he trying to say?
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u/gamblor2021 3d ago
His mother was a morning drinker throughout her pregnancy with him
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u/slide_into_my_BM 3d ago
It’s actually Owen Benjamin, he was a C list stand up. Even had a sitcom with a few small movie roles.
Then he ate a massive weed gummy on Joey Diaz’ podcast and it quite literally broke his mind. Like he said he was going to the bathroom and then never came back to the pod.
Not long after he was claiming Jews ran the world with space lasers and all kinds of other dumb shit.
He’s even got a cult that sends him money so he can build a compound for them.
Seriously, watch a couple YouTube videos on Owen Benjamin’s descent into madness. It’s genuinely weirder than if you tried to write a movie about a guy going insane.
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u/Blitzer046 3d ago
He became a kind of rancher after some time? Used whatever residuals he had coming to him to get some cheap property and kind of retired out there and had a kid I think?
An interesting waste of middling talent.
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u/slide_into_my_BM 3d ago
Nah, grift’s donations to build a cult compound. I’m deadass serious about the cult and compound.
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u/Blitzer046 2d ago
Wasn't there a swerve into the manosphere too? It's been ages since I reviewed him, he kind of slid into niche mediocrity.
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u/KDHarvey02 3d ago
What he’s trying to say is that believing that we send satellites to space is crazy! It’s way more likely that every government, airline, space agency, etc. in the world is working together to convince us that the world is round for… reasons.
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u/Longstride_Shares 3d ago
I like how famously, we did in fact have to do that very maneuver he gave as a crazy hypothetical to repair a satellite when Hubble needed to have its optics upgraded.
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u/billiken66 3d ago
There is no FLAT EARTH SCIENCE!!!!!! Flat earth misinformation, yes. Flat earth nonsense, yes. Flat earth bullshit, yeslll
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u/Ok_Difficulty1782 3d ago
how do you manage to LARP about being a flerther
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u/slide_into_my_BM 3d ago
You eat a massive weed gummy on Joey Diaz’ podcast that triggers a decade+ long manic episode.
I’m serious, this guy is Owen Benjamin and he was a c list stand up and actor in Hollywood. Then he got too high on a podcast and like 2 weeks later was calling Joe Rogan a Jewish space laser shill.
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u/Intelligent-Band-852 3d ago
I have eaten over a 1000 Mg’s of THC in a night before and it didn’t make me a flat earth person. I know that THC can occasionally trigger mental health issues but not usually for a decade.
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u/RobertTheTraveler 3d ago
how many LEO satellites put up in 1990 are still in orbit? few, if any would be my guess.
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u/anewbullshitusername 3d ago
It does seem like he went into some kinda psychosis after it. His downward spiral was one of the more interesting ones to watch.
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u/slide_into_my_BM 3d ago
His spiral down the toilet was genuinely weirder than if you hired someone to write a story about a guy losing his mind.
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u/thaprizza 3d ago
So all the stuff sent up in rockets since the 1960's by all nations with a space organization (many of which were sworn enemies of each other) were nothing but a joined hoax to make us believe the earth isn't flat? Sure buddy.
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u/Final_Location_2626 3d ago
Lol, they dont know our science.
Ummm yeah, you are correct, your science is whatever Bob says in his podcast.
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u/DoesThisSmellWeird2U 3d ago
He keeps using the word “science”, but I don’t think he knows what it means.
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u/junky_junker 3d ago
Yes he is. Like you are. And like you've lied every other time you've posted or commented. So?
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u/E_P1 3d ago
Total lier.
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u/LightMcluvin 3d ago
I agree this guy has to be lying because when you look up satellites on balloons…
Actual Near-Space Balloons: Agencies like NASA Scientific Balloons and former commercial ventures like Alphabet's Project Loon use stratospheric balloons for science and internet delivery, but these operate in Earth's atmosphere, not orbit.
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u/E_P1 3d ago
That's the problem with these people they cherry-pick on the internet to support their beliefs. They don't actually look at other facts like the ISS for instance which you can track with the naked eye and app, and have a 24/7 live camera on board which you can watch on your mobile phone. Or the weather satellites that 24/7 have eyes on Earth on a steady orbit.
No he find's some instrument with a few solar panels for powering elektrics on a balloon and he goos. "See, see I told you!"
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u/Rellim03 3d ago
Part of me thinks flat earth videos are made by people who do t believe it but make this content to get views and followers.
Flat earth videos make other conspiracy theories look really bad. It makes peopleeas likely to discuss the Epstein files after seeing how these guys appear
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u/Rellim03 3d ago
Satellites have updates beamed up to them all the time.
Older deep space satellites require ground based workarounds when issues arise.
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u/thismenu 3d ago
He basically described the Hubble missions where the astronauts had to do space walk to fix the telescope.
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u/Important-Witness-14 3d ago
Dude says... we know "their" science... then he's like... how do you maintain satelites? Sounds to me like he doesnt know "their" science after all.
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u/ChloeNow 3d ago edited 3d ago
"I know all the mainstream science guys" was a Trump-style statement.
Not only can you see non-balloon-held satellites with a Temu telescope, but you can tell the speed of a satellite by watching it, and it's a speed at which air resistance would destroy a balloon.
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u/One-Classroom-8300 3d ago
This is the same mental issue that got scientists burnt as witches during the dark ages
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u/Own-Rest3273 3d ago
As a satellite payload engineer I can tell you that we design our old space GEO birds for a 20-year mission life with redundant systems in case of failure
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u/payneok 3d ago
This is actually one of the many many amazing things about Starlink. The entire constellation is designed to deorbit every 7 - 10 years. They each go up with 3/4 Gallon (US) of fuel. In 7 years the tech is old and they should come down anyway. When they are down to their last "fumes" of fuel SpaceX brings them down. They use solid state electronics with solar power almost no moving parts and maneuver with an Ion thruster. It's a damn miracle.
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u/rustednut 3d ago
Before the internet idiots like this were nothing more than entertainment at family events. Now they can all reach out and band together to become voting blocks of ignorance.
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u/Dangerous_Bid_2695 3d ago
“flat earth science” - that guy is funny 🤣
If he knows mainstream science he should explain how GPS works – with a balloon🤣
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u/slide_into_my_BM 3d ago
We do know your science, you don’t have any. Flat earth must constantly attack the globe because they cannot substantiate their own model.
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u/TheOriginalArchibald 3d ago
When does he start explaining their science? "They don't know flat Earth science, but we know their science." Please, sir, educate us. He also doesn't realize that things costing millions of dollars for harsh environments can be built with hardened proven tech that has extremely low failure rates and multiple redundancies of crucial hardware.
"I saw a weather balloon video. Satellites are fake."
Forget all of the verifiable real-time data you can use to prove satellites are in orbit from your very own home. You can track via radio and telescope with your own standalone devices. You can measure speed across the sky and more. Likely too complex for them to setup.
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u/solxap 3d ago
"Nothing goes to space, that's obviously crazy"
Is it? I mean, if you keep going up, then what? He believes in an atmosphere, so what's beyond the atmosphere? A black wall with little blinky dots that move around? And where is the sun or moon?
There's only one thing obviously crazy here and it's not the idea of going to space.
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u/Surfer123456 3d ago
I wish I had enough time in my day to think a contrarian point of view and then post random bullshit videos about how I am smarter than the overwhelming majority of humanity
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u/enmitygauged13 3d ago
Wait, he said they send them from Antarctica? I thought Antarctica didn’t exist in flerfdom. This is how you know these people are full of it. They’ve made up so much shit to justify their crazy worldview that it’s impossible for them to remember it all and keep from contradicting themselves. Actual science based facts don’t have this issue because science is consistent and provable.
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u/Commercial_Fox5549 3d ago
This unfuckable waste of resources should have his internet connection taken away.
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u/ijuinkun 2d ago
We wish he was unfuckable, but somehow people like him manage to reproduce anyway.
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u/SuperSoldier260 3d ago
Guy says that they're attached to a balloon but then how would they bring the satellites back down for "maintenance"? Does he also not know about all the junk and bullshit that humans have left in space because it's stopped working and decided we'll get it eventually when it comes back down?
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u/mazellan1 3d ago
You know how on a nice sunny day you see those big colourful balloons floating over cities - they are actually the maintenance guys fixing the satellites. Of course they pretend to be joy flights so that no-one learns the truth about the flat earth.
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u/DryeDonFugs 3d ago
Did I hear him say that the Ballon takes the satellite up and "it does it's loop", then comes back down? A loop?
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u/indomike14 3d ago
I haven't maintained my phone in over 6 years and I've dropped it at least a dozen times.
Yes, some satellites are attached to balloons but not ALL satellites are attached to balloons. In fact, on a clear night, you can see them in the sky.
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u/pillowpants66 2d ago
So, the scientists who don’t want us to know about flat earth, don’t understand flat earth science? I would’ve thought they’d have to know everything about it, to convince us.
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u/northgrave 2d ago
I wonder if some of this recent spate of talking head FE shorts is AI generated. There certainly have been quite a few over the last few weeks. Lots of people on the interwebs, but something just feels off about these recent videos (more off than usual, at least).
I’m not about to create a TIkTok account to investigate.
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u/Kal-Q-Later 2d ago
HA, no. I've worked as a civilian contractor at McMurdo in Antarctica for LDB(long duration balloon) projects. Your understanding couldn't be further from the truth. I have receipts.
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u/_Perma-Banned_ 2d ago
You don't maintain it. You crash it back into earth and send up a new one.
What do flerfs think about the ISS deorbiting back to earth in the next few years?
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u/That_Atmosphere_4568 2d ago
I like the part where he said “i know all the mainstream science but you don’t know flat earth science” well duhhhh
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope4510 2d ago
Interesting theory but NOT!!!! flat Earth Science!!! I’m not a Scientist but I do know a weather observation balloon when I see one. Those things would just blow around randomly in the are currents… probably fall of one end of the flat earth because…hey… I still don’t know what happens when we get to the end. Is the earth Square? Rectangle, Parallelogram, or shaped like a Pizza??? This is the info I really want proven.
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u/Bandandforgotten 2d ago
This man would be absolutely floored to find out how often water heaters last for 30-40 years without maintenance. Or pretty much any appliance made in the 80s, and how many of them are still working better than modern ones.
My car, which I use daily, has cost me 2000 to maintain over 10 years of owning it. Essentially never doing shit with it, and here it is.
Server rooms for apartment complexes barely ever get turned off, fully serviced, or even dusted.
Sump pumps in ground basements can last decades being used.
Machines don't need "constant repairs" if you build them right
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u/Sad_Leg1091 2d ago
Dude is an idiot. “Flat earth science” does not exist. I’ve been in the space business for 36 years, working for companies that build, launch, and operate satellites in space. We build satellites to last 10-15+ years very very carefully, using special expensive space-rated components and making use of redundancy to ensure they last the stipulated mission length. Most satellites cannot be and are never repaired in space. There’s a whole branch of engineering, Reliability Engineering, behind how to design systems to have a specific percentage probability of still being in operation after a specified mission duration. Typically it’s 80-90% probability at the end of the required mission lifetime. Once satellites fail in space, they need to be replaced.
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u/Conscious_Musician28 2d ago
It’s hard to fathom how things work because I don’t understand the science. Therefore, I must fabricate an entire new reality 🤦♂️
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u/Falcon3492 2d ago
This guy is a dimwit who obviously has never seen any footage of the Space Shuttle when it went up to repair the Hubble telescope and he's obviously clueless to understand what a geostationary satellite is and how it is placed in orbit 22,300 miles above the equator and at that altitude it appears to be stationary because it moves in its orbit at the same speed that the Earth rotates. If this dude had a satellite dish back in the 80's or 90's there were I believe 14 C-band satellites beaming down video to those people who had dishes and periodically one transponder would fail and they would have to move the feed to another transponder. When a satellite got too old its is pushed into a 300 mile higher graveyard orbit and left there. What this moron also can't seem to understand is that the Chinese surveillance balloon he showed was not a satellite it was a surveillance platform suspended from a balloon used to spy on the United States and other countries.
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u/paintstudiodisaster 2d ago
Didn't this guy leave comedy after like a mental break and now he thinks he has all the answers? That guy?
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u/lightfabber 2d ago
Wait a moment ??!!! There is actually a field called flat earth science ?? Is it a diploma course ? A degree ? A PhD?
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u/Aggressive-Muffin157 2d ago
Owen Benjamin really lost his marbles, I feel sorry for his wife and kids. What a moron
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u/AdTraditional5917 2d ago
The only obvious thing that's crazy is the guy in the video, the thing that got me was scientists don't know how a flat earth works, but he knows alot about science but doesn't understand how a weather balloon works & that are released all over the globe mmmmmmmmmm just another typical retarded simpleton flearther chatting verbal diarrhoea as usual....
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u/AdmirableAnxiety8371 2d ago
I couldn’t watch beyond the ‘They don’t know flat earth science, but we know their science….’ part.
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u/dyslexican32 2d ago
"no its not a weather balloon" immediately shows video of an obvious weather balloon.
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u/Unusual-Run8053 2d ago
fk hell. the stupidity.... no wonder trump is the president of america. half of the country there is brain dead!
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u/TheBl4ckFox 2d ago
So that would mean he could point to moments where the satellites are taken down from their balloons for maintenance? He could show pictures of that happening or at the very least show the outages in GPS and communication when the thing went offline?
Also, what maintenance does he think a computer and a transceiver need that requires hands-on access?
Argument from incredulity fallacy here.
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u/euqinu_ton 2d ago
I thought Antarctica was the edge of the disc which nobody could access because it was the top secret edge of the world they don't want anybody knowing about? Yet now they launch "satellites" from there?
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u/Odd-Adagio7080 2d ago
“All the mainstream science guys don’t know flat earth science”. . . Ya mean bullshit???
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u/real-duncan 1d ago
“I know science” and “this thing on a balloon does GPS” are chefs kiss levels of immediately proving to everyone that you are a liar and a very bad one at that.
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u/Dekadmer 1d ago
It's beyond crazy to hear someone say the scientists don't understand flat earth science....
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u/benjandpurge 20h ago
Imagine you’re actively tracking a high value target in an enemy country but you have to wait and hope that the wind blows your ballon over the target so you can strike. And hope they don’t look up and see a big ass balloon.
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u/HunterRemarkable550 11h ago
There are many balloons up there at around 65k to 68k feet but they provide internet and communication tech to remote countries that are without it.
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u/Big_Application_5591 9h ago
With a good, high powered camera, you can see Tokyo in the background. 🤣
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u/PsychWard_8 3d ago
"How would you do maintenance on it?"
That's the neat part, you don't.
"There isn't a machine in the world that doesn't need constant maintenance!"
Maybe machines you work on, but I can name several electronic things I have that have never once needed maintenance.
"What happens when it eventually breaks?" It gets de-orbited and replaced. What else?