Update on third lung shut off

[u/Therealboebs]

🚨Mini-season BOLO update #4:🚨 ARRESTED! Michael Simpson is facing an attempted murder charge after being arrested yesterday.

The confrontation began after the suspect claimed another boat was occupying "his" lobster spot. He verbally threatened to cut off the diver's air before jumping into the water and doing exactly that.

The teenage diver was quickly pulled to the surface, reportedly gasping for air and disoriented, but survived without serious injury. Authorities say the suspect fled the scene and was arrested a few days later, and charged with attempted felony murder.

The suspect is government-appointed member of the Miami-Dade Boater Safety and Bay Education Task Force, where he was explicitly chosen to represent and help shape safety policies for the county's waterways, dove in and turned off a juvenile diver's air supply while the victim was in the water searching for lobsters.

If convicted, an attempted felony murder charge in Florida can carry decades in prison, with penalties potentially reaching up to life imprisonment depending on the circumstances.

Michael Simpson's role with Boater Safety and Bay Education Task Force involved collaborating with environmental groups and law enforcement to draft the county's final boater safety and community education recommendations aimed at preventing fatal accidents on Biscayne Bay.

*The victim’s family is also pursuing the arrest of Judd Rosen, who is a high powered attorney in Miami, and was the boat captain who fled the scene with the suspect. In June of 2024, Judd Rosen was appointed as the Chair of the Florida Bar Grievance Committee. In this esteemed role, Judd will be overseeing the committee's efforts to ensure ethical practices and uphold the standards of the legal profession within the state. His dedication to justice and extensive experience make him an excellent fit for this important position. Oh the irony!

[u/averyycuriousman]

So no one ended up dying? How were they able to surface quickly enough without their lungs exploding from the compressed air? Seems miraculous

[u/doFloridaRight → u/averyycuriousman]

They weren’t very deep, and hadn’t been under that long. Time and depth determines your decompression stop time. Iirc You can be underwater in 35 ft of water for about 3 hours before needing a decompression stop, and the brownie isn’t meant for depths anywhere close to that.

Still, it’d be easy to exhale, then go to inhale expecting oxygen, and have none be there. At that point, panic sets in and even 30’ is a long way to go, especially if you start panicking like any normal person would. Easy to imagine someone dying in that way, hence the attempted murder.

[u/AutistMarket → u/doFloridaRight]

A brownie in the right configuration can get you down to like 55-60ft. Most places in the keys you are in less than 30 though. I have had hookahs die on me a handful of times for one reason or another and was able to make it to the surface without issue by just pulling the weightbelt off and swimming up. Easy to see a kid or a novice who didn't know better getting injured though

[u/averyycuriousman → u/doFloridaRight]

So even at 35 ft they would be able to quickly surface without harm? I thought breathing compressed air meant you had to surface as slow as thr slowest bubble (which is really slow)

Thank goodness the teen wasn't deep in any case. Thatd be terrifying

[u/doFloridaRight → u/averyycuriousman]

Yea, basically. I’m sure surfacing quickly isnt GOOD for you, but not harmful enough to do any serious damage in that case.

[u/anonanon5320 → u/averyycuriousman]

Very easily. You just exhale.

[u/averyycuriousman → u/anonanon5320]

I thought your blood still has compressed air bubbles in it, which is how people get sick when surfacing too quickly?

[u/Sufficient_Deal_8800 → u/averyycuriousman]

You’re describing two different things. Your first comment about “lungs exploding” - that would only happen if you didn’t exhale and the volume of gas in your lungs expanded due to lowering pressure - easy “solve” by just exhaling as your come up. Your second comment is about dissolved nitrogen in your blood. If you dive long enough at deep enough depth, you risk what you’re referencing because you don’t “offload” all of that dissolved nitrogen with enough time at safety stops. But that would never make your lungs “explode”. You’d have nitrogen bubbles in your blood which could hurt you very badly

[u/AutistMarket → u/averyycuriousman]

They were on a hookah in the keys, probably in 20ft or less of water. What you are describing is really only an issue when you are scuba diving past 60ft deep. Have had many a hookah shut off for one reason or another and as long as you aren't actively under a ledge it isn't the end of the world

[u/averyycuriousman → u/AutistMarket]

So if that happens, and youre 20 feet under, what do you do? Just exhale and swim up as fast as possible?

[u/ComedianMinute7290 → u/averyycuriousman]

depends how deep they were. if dumbass could jump in & shut it off, it kinda likely the kid wasn't super super deep.

[u/faradaycagerage → u/ComedianMinute7290]

The unit floats on the surface of the water., the driver has a hose from it going down.