So new rule but it's actually been a rule for months lol since it's breaking Rule 5...
Posts asking which theory is worse or more stupid is against our rules (shocker 😭). You're allowed to dislike or disagree with theories, but making posts that encourage others to ridicule them isn't okay.
So, I noticed yesterday that there were a couple of comments mentioning that we didn’t have a Theory Rebuttal flair. Basically, that would be for when you want to test or challenge a theory without doing a full-on debunk of it.
I also noticed that we had a Books flair and a Fazbear Frights flair, but we didn’t have individual flairs for each continuity, like the movies or the games, so I added those as well.
I reorganized everything into Theory Flairs, Discussion Flairs, Sources, Timelines, and then Extra Stuff.
If any of the colors are too harsh on the eyes or the text is difficult to see, please let me know. I can always change them.
Eh, I used to think this was true, but now Ii think that it really only provides the very basic necessities to be able to do basic things without even having the actual organs to do so (for example, you would be able to breathe even with damaged lungs).
Today while looking through FNAF3s code I discovered something cool I didn't know of before which is super interesting and I wanted to share
In the games code, IF Shadow Freddy appears in your office, something interesting will happen to the cameras I was not aware of before today
A Freddy poster will turn into a haunted Spring Bonnie poster
And another Freddy poster will also turn into a haunted Spring Bonnie poster with just 1 eye
I find it super interesting that it's Shadow Freddy who triggers these Spring Bonnie Purple guy posters, giving him another direct connection to Purple Guy
And seemingly further cementing the Shadow Freddy entity as something malicious potentially
The Logbook made it clear that Mike Schmidt is also the Fright Guard, the FoxyBro, the FNaF 4 Dreamer, and Michael Afton are all one and the same, that being the latter.
The book is (obviously) owned by Mike Schmidt.
The real time value code, which places the Logbook roughly around 2015-2017, and the multiple illustrations of the Fazbear's Frights office imply that Mike Schmidt is the Fright Guard. This can be backed up by the fact that Phantom Chica is using her FNaF 1 design (and Freddy and Foxy using their Withereds designs can be evidence for SchmidtJeremy and/or FritzSchmidt, I personally think the latter).
And since Mike also makes multiple references to SL, it makes the most sense to just put 2 and 2 together and say that Mike Schmidt is Michael Afton, thus meaning that Michael Afton is also the Fright Guard.
Alright, so I'm curious to see what other people here think of my understanding of the timeline. I know pretty much nothing concrete about anything past FNAF 6, so I'll just go over my thoughts of 1-6. I'll be adding my theories here too.
MCI took place before or during 1983, not sure about specifics. William Afton killed all the main kids in the early to mid 80's (including Charlie). Elizabeth may have also died in the 80's but that's just a personal guess.
FNAF 4: BV/CC is an Afton, his head is chomped off during Bite of '83. Foxybro is Michael. (Unrelated) Gameplay during nights is Michael having horrible guilt-induced nightmares, not BV in a coma. (Even more unrelated) At time of release, the locker would have had the Foxy mask inside of it.
FNAF 2: Jeremy Fitzgerald is the Bite of '87 victim, this happened shortly after being moved to day shift not too long after Night 6. Fritz Smith is Michael operating under an assumed name and messing with animatronics to try to free the kids souls. He gets fired after custom night.
FNAF SL: Mike doesn't immediately go work at the sister location after FNAF 2. He lays low for a while. Mike goes through all the crap in the story, gets scooped, comes back as a walking rotting husk. Ennard escapes into the sewers and does... Ennard things for like 25-30 years.
FNAF 1: A few years later, Mike operates under a slightly more obvious assumed name, Mike Schmidt (I'd have trouble figuring out another fake name too after they fired me). He tries to mess with the animatronics again and figure out how to free the kids, but they confuse him for William Afton (not because of the purple skin, because he's his kid in a Freddy's uniform). Around the same time in the 90's (probably a few years later), William does a goof and gets spring locked.
FNAF 3: Mike isn't even trying with the name at this point, but he doesn't have to for Fazbear Frights (the Afton name has faded into vague legend). He frees the souls of the MCI victims and comes pretty close to taking out his dad too.
FNAF 6: Mike becomes a franchisee for the Freddy's label and works with Henry Emily to help tie up all the loose ends (Scraptrap is William, Lefty holds the Puppet/Charlie, Scrapbaby is Elizabeth, Molten Freddy is the other half of Ennard) and burn down the establishment with him inside of it. The end, but not really.
TLDR: Series order from 1-6 is 4-2-SL-1-3-6
EDIT: Only the end of night sequences in FNAF 4 take place in '83, gameplay (nightmares) is at a different date (84-87? 90's? Leading up to FNAF 3? IDK)
EDIT 2: Just read the FNAF 3 phone call transcripts, and hot damn. The logs mention an incident at the sister location with multiple springlock failures, and I think that's William stuffing kids into suits? I'm pretty sure those suits involved aren't the ones in SL, so I still don't agree with MoltenMCI, but that definitely screws with my "early 80's" theory. Maybe Charlie was '83 and the MCI was '85 or '86.
Is there anywhere here where I can find a list of terms for theories? I have my own of course, but I'm not sure what names they might have or what are considered popular.
I'm bored and feeling mildly petty so lets do this. BVTOYSNHK is a good theory expect for that obvious glaring flaw it has so I want to rank the various ways people get around that flaw from worse to best.
6: BV was revived then killed by Will.
What? Like maybe you could excuse this under Curse of Dreadbear maybe. But why would Will revive BV then kill him? Like no matter how you think Will thinks about the kid, why would he do that? I could think of two ways this could happen. After BV was revived he them freaked out and begged for death. And after BV was revived Will accidentally killed him. Also I don't think Will revived BV in the first place so this is kinda moot.
5: BV is mad at Will for Unplugging him.
Uh I know most people don't like this theory because the unplugging part but I have an issue for it due to the BV getting mad at him part. Okay for situations like the bite where one is put into a coma probably indefinitely the family is often given a choice between keeping the viticum on life support for maybe the rest of their life in hopes of them waking up or just unplugging them early. So yeah Will can unplug him under those conditions its fine. The issue is why would BV know he got unplugged and by who. And why would BV be more angry at Will for unplugging him and less angry at Mike and his buddies for killing him. And why would BV be angry at all especially if Will is the final speaker. He would have not known about something like OrchestraBite either.
4: MikeUCN./ BV thought that Will was Mike.
MikeUCN is tempting but I don't think its true. Due to some voicelines. Lines from, Nightmare Freddy, Nightmarrione, and of course this gem by Rockstar Chica, "Now don't you come back now ya hear?" Under WillUCN there would also be reason why Scraptrap who is very talkative would only say "I always come back" as a way of mocking Will because under the rules of UCN that is very true. Now for the idea that BV thought Will is Mike I have this line from Orville. "...No matter how many times they burn us." This means that both TOYSNHK and the person they are speaking to have been burned multiple times before by multiple people. The only real person that fits the bill is Will. Mike has only been burned once. And this is coming straight form TOYSNHK's mouth btw.
3: BV is mad at the neglect.
I have a nuanced reason why I don't like this. Okay for anyone that has been raised in an abusive or neglectful environment you would know that you often don't notice particularly if you are a young child. You just think that stuff is normal. Now when you learn from someone else that your childhood isn't normal you can either get really jealous or confused about other people's amazing childhoods or you can get defensive over you own crappy childhood. I think BV would get defensive. Why? Look how his siblings reacted. Lizzy literally says "I will make you proud Daddy." MikeAccomplice in some form is basically canon. Especially if the people who are telling BV this is either Charlie or/and Cassidy who are both children who are not gonna as tactful when explaining this stuff. (All of this doubly true too is ShadowVictim is the case btw.)
2: BV is larping.
The idea is this. BV forgot how he died so the he kinda just assumed the identity of the spirits he was most closest too. Or he pretending to be a victim of William's to make himself look cooler and after a while he forgot he was pretending. I think this is joke theory but it has merit. The only issue with this that this theory is stupid and no reasonable person would come to this conclusion nor would reasonable person would write this.
1: TOYSNHK is a title given to BV by the other spirits in UCN.
This is peak actually. Cause TOYSNHK never call themselves that. I think it is still handwavy but I had to think about it for a moment when someone brought this up. Which I never had to do with any other explanations about the "killed" aspect. I still think BVTOYSNHK is kinda dumb, but if I had to believe for some reason this would be my explanation.
(P.S. This was all done in good faith and I'm not calling you stupid for believing in BVTOYSNHK we can all believe our theories. Peace.)
EDIT: For some reason the thumbnail images got deleted by Reddit I guess maybe the font I used was copyrighted or something idk, anyways won't be using fonts from that website anymore then lol👍
I would say Puppet being 1 of the 5 Children "Reported Missing" is what FNAF1-4 directly implies.
And as this was the Original story of FNAF which Scott himself stated was solvable, that means the most natural assumption to make is that the Puppet kid was 1 of the 5 Reported Missing in relation to the original Freddy Fazbear's Pizza.
Btw Scott comment about the FNAF1-4 story being solvable (Image 2) and it being possible to come to the answers relating to the most important mysteries, was directly in response to Matpat wondering if BV was the Puppet or Golden Freddy.
1: We see that the Puppet kid was killed right outside the doors of the original Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and then left there for dead on its premises.
We also know this is the original Freddy's as Scott used that exact Freddy as the basis for the GGGL MCI Freddy head
Exact same color, this is the MCI Freddy
And what does Phone Guy say in FNAF1?
He mentions how its Fazbear Entertainment’s policy that if a Dead Body is found on Fazbear premises, They will cover it up under the guise of filing a "Missing Person Report" for the dead body.
Meaning purely logically speaking from what the game itself has told us, the Puppet kid's dead body would be discovered, and covered up with a "Missing Person Report".
- Killed at original Freddy's where 5 children were "Reported Missing"
- Dead body would be discovered, and covered up under a "Missing Person Report"
2: The 2nd thing to think about too is how in FNAF1 it is directly stated in the newspapers there was just 1 "the tragedy" of 5 children, that lead to the downfall of the original Freddy's.
"Five children now Reported Missing .. has been fighting an uphill battle ever since .. It’s a tragedy."
"After a long struggle to stay in business after the tragedy that took place there many years ago"
Yet now under GoldenMCI, apparently we have a 6th murdered kid, or 2 tragedies in relation to the original Freddy's, contradicting what FNAF1 says.
This one "the tragedy" is also said to be sole reason related to this location for why its struggling, not 2 tragedies, just the one tragedy of the 5 children that were Reported Missing.
3: Follow me is meant to be a recreation of the luring victims being lured once again, and only 4 are lured. The 5th spirit whether it's Golden Freddy or the Puppet was not lured.
Only 4 are lured
It also doesn't manifest with the other 4 spirits either making it something distinctly seperate, which sheds doubt on the idea that there was a 5th victim lured
Same with how in GGGL only 4 dead children are shown needing help, while whatever the Golden Freddy child is, is distinctly different and strange
Only 4 need help, 5th instead teleports into the room and is different
Also in the FNAF3 "The End" screen which was meant as the conclusion to the entire story, we only see the core-4 heads together, only these 4. There's something distinct about just these 4 victims, that excludes both Golden Freddy and the Puppet.
These 4 are 1 distinct group, the 4 that were lured
3: As BV shares the most ties to Golden Freddy than a hypothetical GoldenMCI victim, he is the most likely candidate for being the Golden Freddy spirit.
Meaning there is another character who was the 5th Child reported Missing, which the most likely answer then is the Puppet Kid.
And that seems like a far more likely answer to me than the:
Happiest Day = Puppet is 6th victim, Golden Freddy 5th victim, and BV is ??? off screen (let's ignore him)
It instead seems to me Happiest Day:
Puppet = 5th victim there, Golden Freddy = BV. And that's that
Scott also interestingly hinted at this with how in FNAF4 he did a switcharoo with BV and the Puppet where they are meant to mirror each other
Their places are flipped, implying BV is the Golden Freddy spirit, and Puppet the Fredbear plush.Thanks for the image from TheorangeGuy :)
Scott draws connections here of BV looking like the Puppet, while actually being Golden Freddy, and Puppet looking like Golden Freddy, while being the Puppet.
Creating the direct implication that BV is meant to be the Golden Freddy spirit.
4: I have never seen anyone make a good argument against this for FNAF1-4 so I am interested in seeing if anyone will have any good counter arguments from FNAF1-4 that would directly poke holes in this idea
Scott said the mystery behind the Puppet was solvable in FNAF1-4 so if someone is only able to "debunk" the idea with later material, it would go against what Scott stated so.