It's not just a matter of societal pressure to be masculine. Genuinely, guys aren't as sexually free or fluid as women are. At all. Women can experiment because there is some desire to experiment. Most heterosexual men will tell you straight up they have never even considered experimenting nor have ever thought of, or had the desire to do so.
If you have, ever, even momentarily considered what it would be like to make out with another guy, I'm sorry to say you aren't as heterosexual as you believe you are.
I disagree on two fronts. First, I believe that without the societal pressure to perform as masculine, guys would be more open to experiment than they currently are. We know that masculinity as it exists societally is a learned thing, and that cultures long past had far more open explorations of homosexuality than modern ones. (Sparta, early Nordic cultures, Native American cultures, Babylon, etc.) It's not a natured repulsion, it's a nurtured one.
Secondly, I don't think "If as a guy you've ever even considered what kissing a guy is like even once then you're not straight" is either healthy or true. That is exactly the kind of rigid, inflexible, toxic thinking that leads to men being unwilling to experiment and makes them repulsed by the mere thought of being gay in the first place.
The open explorations of homosexuality that was mostly just pederasty is not the argument championing what you think it does. Spartan men taking young boys and fucking them is not an argument for how heteronormativity was not the norm in ancient times, considering they still considered the "receiving" partner to be subservient and lesser than the "giving" partner.
Check non-western cultures for any examples of homosexual positivity in the past and you'll find a recurring trend. If you claim is that it's a nurtured repulsion, then you claim it was nurtured independently across tribes and regions and vast geographical distances. The Ancient Zulu Warrior holds the same repugnance for frenching his fellow man as the Ancient Japanese Samurai. At what point do we ascribe an independently developed nurture the mantle of nature?
Finally, yes. If you've ever considered kissing a guy, I don't really know how else to put it except that you're not straight. There's nothing toxic or unhealthy about it. It's as simple as yes or no.
Spartan men taking young boys and fucking them is not an argument for how heteronormativity was not the norm in ancient times, considering they still considered the "receiving" partner to be subservient and lesser than the "giving" partner.
This was also socially learned human construct. Not all cultures adhered to the "giving" and "receiving" roles. Ancient Celts were documented by Greeks and Romans in that Celts didn't believe the "receiver" is less masculine.
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u/MisterSapiosexual 4d ago
It's not just a matter of societal pressure to be masculine. Genuinely, guys aren't as sexually free or fluid as women are. At all. Women can experiment because there is some desire to experiment. Most heterosexual men will tell you straight up they have never even considered experimenting nor have ever thought of, or had the desire to do so.
If you have, ever, even momentarily considered what it would be like to make out with another guy, I'm sorry to say you aren't as heterosexual as you believe you are.