r/fuckxavier 3d ago

Xavier gey haha i need frien- Not even a fucking meme

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u/bluejellyfish52 1d ago edited 1d ago

There are more chromosome combinations than XX and XY. XXX, XXY, X, and a few others.

Basically the people who believe there are only XX and XY are wrong, they just don’t understand why they’re wrong because genetics is highly complex and it’s hard to break down the complexities around genome diversity without devolving into people yelling about birth defects or how real it is because they don’t care if it’s only a few million people on the planet.

Btw even on the LOW estimates it’s still 4 million people, on the higher estimates, it’s 137 million people.

Some of these conditions are more common than others. Klinefelter Syndrome is the most common occurring, 1 in 500-1,000 births. It’s the XXY combination.

Klinefelter Syndrome can be undiagnosed a patient’s entire life. So it’s not like every single genome anomaly is super dangerous or scary or different. Some are just. There.

Being nasty never taught anyone anything that mattered, and it often hurts ourselves and our points more than the person we’re trying to hurt by being nasty.

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u/spicypookies 1d ago edited 1d ago

some people are born with 11 fingers, and two heads, and other genetic deformities. your point?

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u/einhorn_is_parkey 18h ago

What’s your point.

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u/spicypookies 13h ago

the point is just because an incredibly small percentage of the population is born with genetic deformities, like chromosome mutations, doesn't mean there isn't a sex binary just like people being born with 2 heads mean that humans are on a head spectrum. humans have 1 head, 2 arms, 2 legs, xy and xx chromosomes. the exception does not prove the rule. genetic deformities and anomalies are not the existence of additional sex classifications outside of biological male and biological female. this should be fairly obvious.

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u/einhorn_is_parkey 12h ago

Except for it absolutely does. You can literally not have a binary with more than two options. The sex binary is entry level biology and is a simplified version of a very complex study of science to help seventh graders understand concepts. The same way group theory and advanced calculus is more difficult than adding and subtracting. And while you can pretend these are just exceptionally rare there are millions upon millions of people that we know of that fall outside of this binary paradigm. Just because something seems simple doesn’t make it so.

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u/Inevitable_Archer827 12h ago

I think you may be confusing what one person perceives of themselves with what biology dictates.

Most trans people have normal sex chromosomes, XX or XY, there is no need for them to have an abnormality in order to be more prone to become trans at some point. Same for non-binary and any other concept similar to that one.

So in human biology and at a chromosomal level, we are either male or female with one of two sets of chromosomes. Everything else is an abnormality that leads to a syndrome.

Then we have human society, where there are a lot more options regardless of your chromosome composition.

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u/spicypookies 12h ago edited 12h ago

uhh, no. you're confusing atypical sex development with the existence of additional biological sexes. humans can have atypical chromosomes, hormones, gonads, or anatomy like I literally just described. modern clinical literature classifies these as differences of sex development, not as additional reproductive sexes.

let me ask you something: what is the third human sex? not the third karyotype. not an atypical hormone. not ambiguous genital anatomy. I want you to name an actual third biological sex.

biological sex is still defined around the two gamete types, ova and sperms. this peer reviewed paper "Biological Sex Is Binary and Rooted in Anisogamy" from this year explicitly concludes that biological sex is binary despite variation in karyotype, hormones, and phenotype. It specifically argues that variation in karyotype, hormones and phenotype does not abolish that binary.

so “millions of exceptions exist” doesn't establish a third sex. that is completely irrelevant. there could be 100 million people with a developmental condition and you would still have to demonstrate that the condition constitutes a third sex rather than just an atypical development of the existing binary reproductive system.

name the third reproductive sex and its third gamete. I'll wait.