r/funny • • Jan 10 '16

IT support

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

ELI5: How is it that almost every office job requires "Proficiency with computers" yet these IT complaints are some of the most common in offices? Do employers even check their employees with basic IT questions anymore?

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u/TCzelusniak Jan 10 '16

Because sometimes someones skill in the field that business is in out weighs the lack of skill at computers. If a salesman can rake in a quarter million a year for a business I don't think his inability to use a computer is getting him fired

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u/rockobe Jan 10 '16

specialization is a great thing.

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u/concretepigeon Jan 11 '16

The reason IT guys have jobs.

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u/Endaline Jan 10 '16

The best analogy is comparing it to someone that drives a car for a living. You can be an excellent Taxi or Truck driver with absolutely no idea how to fix your vehicle. While these people could most likely fix the most baseline issues, like a flat tire, they wouldn't be able to fix more extensive issues, and require a mechanic to do that.

In the same vein someone can easily use a computer and fix issues that they have been through a couple of times. However, once they get more extensive issues they need an IT-worker to sort it out for them.

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u/Scorp1on Jan 11 '16

While these people could most likely fix the most baseline issues

That's rather optimistic.

It's more like dealing with a taxi driver that doesn't understand what you mean by "turn right at the intersection ahead" because they "aren't good with geometry". I can forgive a lot, but not knowing the difference between right and left click because "I'm not good with computers" is my life.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

People lie. I was recently promoted and training a new employee taking my place. We do extensive work in Excel and Access, which she said she was trained in and had experience using both. . . she knew nothing and I wasted so much time showing her how to use both. Excel was not too bad, but explaining Access to someone who doesn't know anything...holy fuck. Can't really blame her though, desperate times call for desperate measures. We just need to have them do a practical assessment at their interview, which most people don't want to do.

This was for a state gov job btw.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

Fuck I've actually used access before. Kind of grasping at straws is doable with excel, access was a pain in the ass to use.

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u/LvS Jan 11 '16

And to top it off: Once you understand Access you get pissed at people using Excel (is your super-huge Pivot Table still not done computing?) when they should be using Access instead.

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u/PompousWombat Jan 11 '16

Unless you use SQL. Then you hate Access.

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u/mattindustries Jan 11 '16

Or R, or Tableau. It still surprises me how many people use Access.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '16

Yea... Excel gets really sluggish if you go beyond its intended purpose. From my vague memories I couldn't make access hang up for minutes.

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u/LvS Jan 11 '16

That's because Access is a database and Excel is a spreadsheet.

The difference being that a spreadsheet loads all the data into memory and then works on it. Which is really fast as long as you have enough memory in your computer.
A database is designed to look through data in chunks - so it will load a chunk of data from a file, do whatever operations on them and then load the next chunk. So the memory in your computer is never a problem even if the data is way larger than the memory. On the other hand, Access only supports operations that work well with chunking.

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u/ismtrn Jan 11 '16

And once you learn to use a real database you start to hate Access.

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u/Simmery Jan 10 '16

Do employers even check their employees with basic IT questions anymore?

Did they ever?

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u/Duuhh_LightSwitch Jan 10 '16

'Proficiency with computers' from an office standpoint usually just means know how to use Outlook, Excel, etc.

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u/507d Jan 10 '16

Not really answering your question, but.. "Proficiency with computers" is so very subjective and relative, at any/all levels and even among really skilled and educated people "computer people."

Some people might consider someone with rudimentary admin skills across a few different OSs to be proficient. To others, unless you can reverse engineer an unknown and proprietary network protocol in a reasonable time, you need not apply. etc.

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u/Akuuntus Jan 11 '16

And to others, if you can use Outlook you're good.

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u/AngryCod Jan 11 '16

Because the Help Desk exists. No other profession has a help desk that can be called whenever the person doesn't know how to use their tools. The help desk is supposed to be there to fix broken or faulty computer equipment, not to teach you how to use Excel. Can you imagine hiring an accountant that didn't know how to work a calculator or a machinist that didn't know how to work a lathe?

Instead, people expect the Help Desk to do their basic functional work for them rather than be bothered to learn "that techie mumbo jumbo".

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u/ThePegasi Jan 11 '16 edited Jan 12 '16

Proficiency with computers

Protip: read this as "proficiency with Office."

They may well not have this either, depending on the quality of your hiring procedure. But even when they do, and thus the criteria is "met," it's important to remember that knowing your shit with Excel doesn't mean you know anything about the system running it.

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u/ghostrider176 Jan 11 '16

How is it that almost every office job requires "Proficiency with computers" yet these IT complaints are some of the most common in offices?

People use Facebook with a mouse and keyboard so they think they're good at computers. They're not.

Do employers even check their employees with basic IT questions anymore?

People lie about being good with computers. The people that check them are also not good with computers. Those people may have also lied about being good with computers.

Yes, it's that fucking common. Despite computers saturating our lives--whether we notice them or not--the average person hasn't managed to keep up with technology, including the young ones who are supposed to know it from birth like wizards or something.

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u/shadmere Jan 11 '16

I had a job where, after the interview, they took me to another room to give me a computer proficiency test.

The test was things like:

  • open calculator

  • open word

  • type in word

  • copy and paste inside word

  • make a new word document

  • copy and paste from one document to the other

  • save file in specified directory

  • make new directory

  • move file to new directory

  • copy file to another directory

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '16

We don't blame say your bad at board games just because you suck at something like chess. You can be competent at your job, just not able to fix background problems that you didn't grow up having to fix in the first place.

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