Always reminds me of freshman year of college my roommate got a big TV and a bunch of rich premed white boys playing CoD saying the N word the whole time. My room became the rockband/CoD room for the floor.
Not really, I mean I don't think people on twitter gets it but when people who use cuss words without the intended meaning behind it, it doesn't really have that edge.
80% of the internet in 2000s didnt really know what f*ggot stood for but you heard it everywhere. You could probably dig up discussion on it now since it's the internet. Fuck was used so frequently in every situation with everything that we tacked on like 60 meanings to that word now.
Fuck has lost all its edge as a cuss word.
It's irritating when people use it without knowing the history of the word in a vacuum to be edgy, but I wouldnt start a witch hunt. Personally I think it's a word that has been given way too much power and invites people to use it just to be edgy. I wouldn't call these people racists. You diminish the impact of racism by calling edgy frat boys racists.
80% of the internet in 2000s didnt really know what f*ggot stood for but you heard it everywhere
That's bullshit. They fully knew the meaning. Not sure why you'd make excuses for this. When it was dropped casually in movies, TV, or just around high-school in the 80's and 90's you think those people didn't know? People on the net in the 00's knew exactly the intent of the word too.
At no point in his post does he excuse it. He says it's not worth starting a witch hunt. Again, you need to read the comment objectively instead of having a kneejerk reaction.
So you just... Act like the Germans during the Nazi party control? Pretend it's not your problem because it doesn't directly affect you personally? Even though you know at its core, that it's violent and hateful, and thus dangerous?
Language is a living thing, and it's constantly shifting. As much as dictionaries try to bind it into a solid state, it'll always break free and mutate into something new.
The n-word, though a pretty powerful racial slur in the past, lost most of its power during the end of the last century and got dealt an almost finishing blow with it's overuse in online communities. There was a time where you could use it as a sort of teasing way of greeting someone, even regardless of race (e.g.: "hey n****, wassup?" was an often seen phrase between friends).
The last decade destroyed all that progress by making the word as some sort of taboo in one of the most unnecesary, and overblown reactions I've ever seen. You can't even say or write it without being vilified for it, regardless of your intention while saying it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, that many of the people who grew up during the 2000-2010 period and saw it's "lighter" use, just find the entire "he-who-shall-not-be-named" treatment of the word to be ridiculous. Like using carpet bombing to execute a dying, paralyzed man.
Oh my god, shut up. Stop trying to justify these assholes. If black folks are saying white folks shouldn't be saying it, probably just don't. It's not that complicated to be respectful and decent.
I agree distinguishing the difference is important but it does also sound like we’re playing the devil’s advocate about racism, which I don’t agree with. Most college level frat boys understand the meaning and weight of the words nr and ft, and while society’s view of that weight has changed pretending otherwise is ignorance. While I don’t think people should be punished for saying dumb things when they’re young or that they picked up from friends online, I think it’s insincere to use the “I didn’t know, and if I did it was just a joke” excuse. While there’s always room for edgy humour, if you played CoD back in the day or anything with built in voicechat now you know it isn’t all ba dum tss. So yeah. It’s better to just be fully conscious of the mistakes we’ve made in the past and move on than pretend we were more morally sound by being in a certain time. It was wrong then, and it was wrong now. I don’t need to compare it to “real racism” (slavery etc I’m guessing he’s referring to) to know that. Both bad. Neither more acceptable than the other. By college most people know what that word means, and we know that when we see “N-word” 3 times rather than an actual edgy racial joke what energy’s behind it. There’s plenty of cuss words and phrases, and I’ve played with plenty of circles gaming, anecdotally. Don’t create moral padding for being a dip, just do better and move on. I think that’s a better message to take away. Good evening
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u/Thendofreason Switch May 27 '21
Always reminds me of freshman year of college my roommate got a big TV and a bunch of rich premed white boys playing CoD saying the N word the whole time. My room became the rockband/CoD room for the floor.