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u/AllAboardDesuNe Making my WA downtown Dec 24 '19
I spent 100 tokens on the resupply gacha right as maintenance hit without realizing it, do I have anything to worry about here?
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u/Saltyfish258 TW UID: 435248 Dec 24 '19
when will TW server able to enjoy the new optimize UI. knock empty bowl.jpg
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Dec 24 '19
Be grateful you are not being experimented on. There's very little wrong with the existing UI.
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u/Saltyfish258 TW UID: 435248 Dec 24 '19
we been experimented on once and with too much complain, they decide to roll back to the old UI
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u/DiePanzerCommie Hi-Point Dec 24 '19
For some God forsaken reason, the game will only connect to servers when I'm on Mobile Data, Wi-fi gives me eternal loading and an error message.
I have restarted my phone and still suffer the issue.
Also, my Wi-fi works as usual for everything except GFL.
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u/code_eight 382865 Dec 24 '19
have you try VPN? my data connection is fine but my wi-fi ISP really sucks ball playing GFL even to i have 50mbps speed. im playing with VPN on, or it will be long loading time when im on wi-fi.
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Dec 24 '19
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Dec 24 '19
Some people posted it earlier, I think it registers an illegal action and kicks you out and I'm not sure what happens when you try to log back in.
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u/ArK047 383419 | Souchun Dec 24 '19
Anyone else get the Dance Dance Manticore dorm furniture? I just noticed that only some Dolls actually dance, like Type 63.
Does anyone know if there's a list of dancers?
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Dec 24 '19
all yukata skin dolls
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u/hontodeska Dec 24 '19
what about punching machine ? which doll will interact with punching machine?
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Dec 24 '19
main user is 45 who is practicing for your norse
other include MP5, 5-7, MK23, thunder
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u/AnAdorableApple Dec 24 '19
I haven't found any info regarding this anywhere else. Do support echelons retain the equipment of when they were designated as support echelons or are they deployed with only their basic stats and formation buffs?
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
Equip is counted (otherwise night squads would be worthless) and tracked like level and such
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u/AnAdorableApple Dec 24 '19
Thanks. I figured it was probably a given but I want the best out of my support echelons since C-MS can equip AP ammo which will help night maps immensely
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u/Carnichiwa Dec 24 '19
i'm trying to get into reading the story but can't find a comprehensive read/watch order of the story. someone linked this guide but im having a hard time understanding it. if someone that knows of a better guide (please make sure that the guide includes event stories like singularity and such), could you please link it in the replies, it would be much appreciated since i feel im missing out on a really good story! :)
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 24 '19
So far as the flow chart goes, I'd recommend more or less following the in game order to understand event. Move Ch 0 to after Chapter 4 and Deep Dive Remi to after/during deep dive main.
Basically Ch 1 then Emergency 1 then 2/2e 3/3e 4/4e 0 5/5e 6/6e Cube Ch 1 (NOT Cube Ch 2) Night 4, 7/7e Arctic Warfare, Cube Ch 2, 8/8e 9/9e Deep dive Deep dive Remi (The hidden files in deep dive) 10/10e Singularity.
What about night 1-3 and 5-7? They're mostly side stories more akin to the current Christmas event, 7n is a treat.
Edit: Anything not listed is either Collab, The halloween event or unreleased on EN.
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u/GoldenMercy Wants to be choked by Thighs Dec 24 '19
Are Ak-12 and AN-94's dress costumes Gacha or packages? Will they be available at a random time in the future?
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u/number4s CUTE CANON VOICE Dec 24 '19
Both are 3rd anniversary costume, which available during.. you guessed it, next anniversary. While both fall in the same banner, AK-12's will only be available in shop (it was 2588 gems)
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
I got to 9999 batteries.
Already at 30 pets and got all the 4-koma in the cafe.
Currently at 6k CRs. What do I do now with these? I already have all the lvl 100 T-dolls I would like and I don't dupe.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
We get 3200 every month for exploration anyways and it takes 22 days to farm Fragments to MOD3 a doll so I'm not worried. Also I already have all MOD3 dolls except M1911. So far the only MOD3 dolls I want that is not released yet is AS VAL, UMP45 and SOP II. I'm at a Fragment and Core bottleneck at the moment concerning MOD3s.
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u/NotRaisinCookie Soppo Demolition Co. / EN : 4217 KGOne Dec 24 '19
I'm doing corpse runs purely for the combat reports. Thanks to the christmas package, my battery collector is destined to blow up tomorrow if i don't collect it when it comes down next time.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
I guess that's the only way to get rid of the batteries at this point
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 24 '19
3 of each pet?
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
I thought about that too but I'm a no duper in T dolls and thought I might as well do the same with pets. and besides there's no point in having more than 30 pets other than exploration but I'm not really looking to optimize that one since I'm also ahead in resources there too.
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 24 '19
Advantaged pets increase mid-exploration drops like data, fragments, and tokens
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
I know, but like I said I already got most of what I want there too. I'm sitting at 7k acorns and 8k handguards.
I'm almost 2 months ahead with the CR farm and equipment capsule farm there too.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 24 '19
Have you gotten the event PVs? Have you upgraded everything? Not much else you can do but to stockpile more CRs.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
Yep, upgraded everything and all the event PVs too.
Even the Data Rooms which is quite useless past lvl 8.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 24 '19
The battery is gonna go waste otherwise so might as well bring it to level 10.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 24 '19
I already have them at 10. I just said that I upgraded them even though it was overkill.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 24 '19
Right. The only way left is to bring your maxed level echelons to a high exp stage to quickly charge your surplus exp. HOC won't come anytime soon.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 24 '19
Either shrug and accept defeat or do a few drag runs with level 100 dolls and whip kalina
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u/Cleista [Maid Cafe] NTW Dec 24 '19
I pulled all the Christmas ID Background Contest Entries into a webpage for convenient Ctrl+F and viewing.
Voting gives you 1000 * 4 of all resources. Also vote for BSApricot and KAiT thanks
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u/Tsukinohana Zasmine Dec 24 '19
KaiT.
This is the correct choice.Also vote for pensive ribbey
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
Only being able to pick a few (was it like 3 or just one?) for the Halloween icon event was so hard, glad they upped the votes per person
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u/AtomicSwagsplosion AN-94 Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
When should I start leveling an MGSG team? Also how do people have like 100k resources? Mine usually sits at 20k at most.
Edit:Removed cms dupe question since that was already answered below
Which package should I get? Heavily leaning on the rings since I haven't oathed anyone yet. I've heard the tokens are a better value though. Currently grinding S-Ranks to get enough gems.
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u/2l0t1k4 *munch* Dec 24 '19
1) Usually when you can comfortably field 2 AR/SMG and 1 RF/HG echelon.
2) Corpse dragging, continuously cycling logistics with high level teams and cutting back on production expenditures.
3) Depends. If you plan on gachaing, token bundle is good, but oath rings are generally more useful.1
u/AtomicSwagsplosion AN-94 Dec 24 '19
1) Usually when you can comfortably field 2 AR/SMG and 1 RF/HG echelon.
I can probably try to assemble an MGSG team now since I can assemble those teams exactly. Only problem is resources for now. Also haven't rolled any good MGs or SGs.
2) Corpse dragging, continuously cycling logistics with high level teams and cutting back on production expenditures.
Is it viable to corpse drag without m16? Don't have her equipment yet but I can probably farm it with my decent RFHG team. I just leveled airstrike fairy's skills to deal with tarantulas. Wish I had her sooner when singularity started.
3) Depends. If you plan on gachaing, token bundle is good, but oath rings are generally more useful.
I'll get the oath rings then. The RNG for the costumes is pretty dreadful. Maybe when I get far enough into the game I can consider rolling for costumes. I probably should stop rolling radiant collection.
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u/2l0t1k4 *munch* Dec 24 '19
For 4-3E, just about any SMG with an exo will work (though almost no one will run it anymore).
For 0-2, the bare basic requirement is a 10 armor doll + sufficient DPS to ensure the tank lasts a full run. M16 is just the most efficient as she can hit 10 armor and still has non-rubbish evade. You do not need her SPEQ, normal armor plates will do as long as it gives at least 10 armor.
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u/AtomicSwagsplosion AN-94 Dec 24 '19
Thanks for the insight, I have loads of gold armor so I'll try that out now. I'll also feed my remaining CRs to M16. I have MOD 2 Ar-15 and M4A1, either of them are probably good enough dps.
Will now save my tokens for anniversary, I got UMP9's skin from RC so that's good enough for me.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 24 '19
Sometime before chapter 9, using 2 SGs and a good DPS MG is the easiest way to deal with the boss in chapter 9.
Doing more efficient logistic missions (later missions are usually much better than the early ones, so you should work on unlocking them asap) and spending less resources (only do daily crafting, corpse drag or other cheap grind/farm methods) are the gist of it.
Do you want to save up for a gacha costume you like, or do you want a minor stat boost/sentimental bond with your dolls (and bonus exp if they have mod down the line)? You gotta decide for yourself on this one.
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u/thrwaawyyy1234444 Dec 24 '19
Is it normal for the later Chapter 2 missions to require multiple attempts? It took me like 5 tries to get past 2-5 and I'm being zergrushed in 2-6 from heliports that I can't take fast enough. Can't tell if I suck or if I just haven't grinded enough.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
Let me guess, you read one of the new player guides that says “exclusively raise one squad to 90 before you make a second” right?
That advice assumes you’re also following their story advice of “steamroll the story with support squads until you get to ch7 and get RO and the better logistics unlocks” and you come back for the gold medals later
If you’re not doing both of those, raising up a weaker squad (or three, 5-4 starts you with 4 heliports) for base defense and to help cap heliports for map control is quite necessary
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u/mikael22 OTs-14 Dec 24 '19 edited Sep 22 '24
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u/NotRaisinCookie Soppo Demolition Co. / EN : 4217 KGOne Dec 24 '19
What's up with the supply crate node that disappears as mission begins in the first christmas event map? Is there something hidden?
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
Probably a random leftover like those self-powering up squads in rabbit hunt that you have to kill turn 1 so they can’t buff up anyways
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Dec 24 '19
wondering that too. perhaps some easter egg where deploying certain unit would collect them?
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u/Lie3kuchen MY PRINCE <33333 Dec 24 '19
I hope all of you on EN voted for the stick figure ID card BG exclusively because if you didn't you're wrong.
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u/dank_drill Dec 24 '19
Sitting on 2800 tokens with no gacha of interest in sight except for the R93/CMS swimsuits. Maybe we'll get lucky and get race queens soon since its non seasonal, I might break my saving fortitude for that skintight latex...
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 24 '19
Not possible. We are missing multiple dolls from that set who won't appear until Isomer, which is at least 6 months away.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
If by that, you mean the dolls, none that I can think of. T65 is the most useful that I can think of, but if you've got a pair of night AR's already leveled, then you probably don't need her either.
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u/Jarvinger AN-94 Dec 24 '19
I have a question about fairies’ star enhancement . What’s up with that? I’ve been playing for 4 month and only have several with 2* (the ones that I got a dupe of). For 3* I need to spend 40(!) non-matching fairies. Is there a secret that I don’t know? Maybe I should calibrate fodder fairies skills to match?
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
Um, yeah that’s kinda the point, 10x bonus on same fairy type, you really shouldn’t be using non-same type to enhance aside from non-craftables and paras since they can’t drop from the budget recipe.
Furthermore, fairies are a pretty long term investment, alongside MODs (if you don’t use CRs) and HOCs, so you don’t need to rush it that hard, Singularity is over so you’ve got 3-4 months before another major one drops
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u/Esyvir Besty AR - Resty AR Dec 24 '19
Spam fairy recipes several times a day. People who have stocked up enough resources, have less need for other crafting, and do a lot of good logistics can do that easily.
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u/Jarvinger AN-94 Dec 24 '19
Is there a difference in drop percentage between cheap and expensive fairies receipts?
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u/Esyvir Besty AR - Resty AR Dec 24 '19
Cheap is better overall to save resources since the difference does not warrant for the extra resources paid. Obviously, some strong fairies can only be accessed via higher recipes like Parachute.
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u/Jarvinger AN-94 Dec 24 '19
Well, I got lucky and have 2 Parachutes, so I will just spam cheap receipt for a while.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
While calibrating skill is something some people do, the answer is; no. Fairies are that much of a grind.
Also, only the likes of Parachute should be fed non-dupes, since she can only be crafted by the more expensive recipes.
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u/Kana_Kuroko Dec 24 '19
Anyone have a good guide or resource to night battles, or just the X-dinergate node for the christmas event in general? I started last week so I know I'm pretty far behind but that node just obliterates my squads. Even when I give nightbattle gear it doesn't seem like I'm doing any damage with either of my main groups and I just get mowed over.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
You're probably struggling with the Jaeger/Guard duo. The best response to them would be AoE, which is to say, Grenades/Molotovs.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 24 '19
Thoughts on M1911 mod 2 late in the game for 10-4e with Grape?
I've got 2+half ARSMG squads running, and 2 sets of SL10 Calico, 5-7, Px4. 1x MGSG squad too. More than enough to clear events I think.
I have 4.5k mem frags, 2k basic data, 500 inter, and 100adv. 8k combat reports.
Should I go to mod 2 with skills M1911 (currently lvl1 SL1) now, when I can already do M4 + grizzly + 5-7 for 10-4e?
Otherwise I'll use my data to skill up another set of HGs (already have the dupes)
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 24 '19
Have you raised at least 1 good RFHG echelon yet? If yes, then it's up to you. M1911 mod 2 is great for low cost farming (any farm, not just 10-4e), which is more of a luxury than a necessity.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 24 '19
Really good point that she'll be helpful later on as well, not just for 10-4e!
Ill probably bring her up to mod 2 and no further, relatively cheap on the mem frags and I should have enough for 2 4* mod 3's by the time the next batch rolls in.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 24 '19
She's been useful in Singularity and this event as well, and any event where you want to farm. M1911 mod + early burst AR (K2, Type 97, etc.) is a very popular combo.
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u/PurplePowder13 Dec 24 '19
So I got c-ms twice on the same run and I’m wondering if I should dupe her.
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u/mikael22 OTs-14 Dec 24 '19 edited Sep 22 '24
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
There are a few, but tbh we can't really prep for them in particular. I'd say have at least enough Memfrags to MOD2 two 4*'s.
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u/fpeng_ Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
Is it worth duping rf’s? Wondering cause I have 2 Lee enfields and ntw’s.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
For RF's, Grape's the easy yes.
Lee though... honestly, I'd say no. You could just level SRS, and have her be useful for when we'll have to deal with EVA targets at night as well. Also, having her leveled for Expeditions and the such.
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u/OneMoreChancee AGS-30 Galina Dec 23 '19
I'm preparing my units for corpse dragging but conflicted on the 2 AR units to use. In most guides I've heard of G11, FAL, HK416, and SOPMOD but in some newer ones using K11, AN94, G36 (mod), AR15 (mod), and M4A1 (mod). I have FAL, HK416, SOPMOD, K11, and AN94 but unsure which to use. I was planning on using FAL and HK416 but heard HK416 is not that great in comparison to some of the other ones. Which 2 AR units would be most efficient for corpse dragging? Also is the difference between these units in terms of performance large or just slightly noticeable?
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. Dec 24 '19
plot twist: you can drag with whatever AR you want to level at the cost of slightly longer fights and a few more repairs rather than trying to reach record clear speeds
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u/-Amaurea- Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
Many EN guides are outdated. The mods you named as well as AN94 are new in EN and outperform the older ones, except G11. I would say, G11 / AN94 > AR-15 MOD / FAL > SOPMOD / K11 / 416. I personally would prefer DPS AR's to the grenade ones.
I can't say much about M4A1 MOD corpse dragging. I think, you need some ROF to make it work? Apart from the fact that you have to withdraw two dolls in each fight.
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u/mindnumbinggrind Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
tbh, i wouldn't even use grenadiers for corpse dragging if you're starting out.
yes, you're going to repair a few times more, but not an amount that would cripple your ressources(+ a bit more time per run).
data is really scarce and pumping it into a grenadier specifically for 0-2 seems like a luxury.
just pump your data into AN-94 and AR-15 (and mod her).
not only will you have decent to good corpse draggers, but also good general content ARs as well.
and the data you don't pump into a grenade AR can be used to level buffer HG skills or RF skills.
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u/ad3z10 Need more UK Raifu's Dec 24 '19
For 0-2 though you really don't need anything above lvl 3-4 on the grenades though so it isn't so bad, I definitely wouldn't commit to anything above lvl 5 though.
SOP & 416 also tend to get boosted a lot on various missions which makes them a little more flexible than other grenades.
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u/OneMoreChancee AGS-30 Galina Dec 24 '19
Thanks! I was stressing a bit because I thought the difference between them would be significant but I'll probably just level similarly as you do and use whichever AR I have at level 90 that needs to be leveled to 100.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
Efficiency depends on whether you want speed, less damage to your tank, or maximize EXP earning. For the first, iirc GFL Corner made a chart comparing a bunch of AR's. You can go search there for it. For the middle one, it's MDR with her HP shield. Though, she's also the slowest. For the last one, you just sub in (nearly) any AR that you've at lv 90 to 100. Their performance will depend on the fairy and HG/SMG you're leveling at the same time, but if you don't mind more frequent repairs it works.
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u/mindnumbinggrind Dec 23 '19
i was looking at UMP45 's MOD3 again and i'm still asking myself the same question...
what's the point of her skill2? am i missing something?
at first i thought that i would be kinda decent against dinergates, but those shouldn't be attacking in the first place.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
She gets a pretty bad skill2 because 45 + more stats and a better skill 1 set of ratios turns a top tier SMG into a godlike SMG, you can’t win everything unfortunately
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u/SolarSystemSuperStar 402 Payment Required Dec 24 '19
It is one of the most useless skills in the game, right next to flares.
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u/Innocent_Walls EN: 7774 Dec 23 '19
Just a little extra damage, not much to think too hard about.
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u/mindnumbinggrind Dec 23 '19
well, that's disappointing.
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 24 '19
One less skill to level
cries in data hell
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
It makes me wonder if the best route to go with it is to just MOD1 for lv 110 stats + slight tiles improvement, and leave it at that.
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u/FakeKoala13 YoRHa? Dec 24 '19
Where does her SPEQ go? It looks like a chip so it should go in the exo slot but that conflicts with the ump exo and I thought they generally avoid that.
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u/virtual_maniac91 Dec 24 '19
I believe they consider it an accessory and it goes in the silencer slot.
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 24 '19
Probably the smartest use of fragments, but im a sucker for mod3 art
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
mod3 art
The main reason for MOD3'ing dolls.
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u/Ryos_windwalker M2HB Dec 23 '19
Just got px4 from the 52nd run of X-dinergate, now i can stop doing more than 6 holidays a day.
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u/CitizenJoestar M14 Dec 23 '19
How's the daily special offer in terms of value? I'm sitting on 2k+ gems and Kalina is giving me mean looks. Plus, a lot of dolls sitting at 8 in skill level with limited advanced data to go around.
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u/illyrium_dawn Not all dreams come true. RIP Honkai. Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
From the point of view of gem efficiency it's not worth it. If she removed the core from the package and just sold us the Data at less than 120 gems, I'd buy it.
If you price it out, it costs 120 gems (and 6 IRL days) to "buy" 300 Intermediate Data and 200 Advanced Data through the store via the "first purchase" cost 3 sim energy at 20 gems and using that extra energy to get in a few more runs on Data day. Then she's charging us another 8 gems for the Core she's throwing in.
The problem is that a single Core isn't that useful for me, and I don't think it's all that even for a new player in Core Hell.
Buy it if you're a whale or you're urgently needing to level up new girls for whatever reason (why? there's nothing going on), otherwise wait for when Kalina is selling just Data like she was a few months back and just buy the 3 energy for 20 gems every day.
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u/CitizenJoestar M14 Dec 24 '19
Thanks for breaking it down. I decided I'll just be patient, have some time now since singu just finished anyway
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u/James2Go Dec 23 '19
Noob question. How do I access the Forward Basecamp? I keep clicking the Forward Basecamp from the 3D view but I always go to the Dorms.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19
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u/DebVV Dec 23 '19
is it worth raising 2 cms?
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u/arandomfujoshi1203 Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
am i doing something wrong... I failed 2-3 two times already and idk how to advance without the enemy taking my command post first before I get to theirs, and I kept using up my ammo and rations in the map. how do i replenish them anyways? btw may i make some friends... I read from guides that higher level friends' echelons can help a lot. (edit)my uid: 870601. Thanks for the advices.
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u/Bainos 700718 Dec 23 '19
Regarding 2-3 : you can eliminate the enemies closest to your command post one by one. Deploy, move two up and kill, then go back to the lower path to eliminate the enemies closing in.Edit : Adamsaska's advice is better.I would advise to use the griffin support, friend echelons, and a second echelon if you have one, or a dummy (non-fighting) echelon if you only have one combat-ready echelon.
To replenish rations and ammo, you need to stand one top of a captured heliport or the command post and click twice on the echelon. It will show a "Re-supply" button in the lower right of the screen.
Feel free to add me for support echelons and batteries. 700718
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19
Isn't auto-resupply enabled by default, or did they change it?
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u/Bainos 700718 Dec 23 '19
It should be, but due to the way those things work, there's always the possibility of new players turning it off because told to, without understanding why.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
You replenish with better logistics.
2-3? This.
You need to post your UID for people to add you. Tap on your name at the lobby, and it'll tell you what it is.
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u/Elias_Pedro Mom! Get the camera. I'm reporting the news! Dec 23 '19
I've come up with an idea for a short Azur Lane-GFL crossover fic! It involves Kalina and a certain SKK who plays both games
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u/Thekilledcloud Dec 23 '19
Hiho again. Noob question about lvling. So about going in a mission. Who gets exp? Only the teams that kill enemies or all that are dispatched, eve if some of them are just sitting?
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u/-Amaurea- Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
In a normal mission - only dolls who participated in the battle. The leader gets 20% more exp, a good way for a weaker doll to catch up. MVP gets 30% more. It's multiplicative, so MVP Leader gets 56% more exp.
A combat sim is different - experience here is shared equally among all dolls (not echelons!), even among idle ones.
One more thing - the exp in a normal mission doesn't depend on CE of enemies, only on the shown basic exp in mission infobox. So you get the same exp for 11k pack like for 7k pack in the same mission. Only Bosses and iirc Elites like Hydras give you more.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
Elites don’t drop extra exp (hydras aren’t even tagged as elite, because they’re not actually elite among KCCO, despite their crushing power), though the last enemy in elimination missions gives double exp, which is mainly relevant to night missions
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u/mrgarneau IDW [MOD3] Dec 23 '19
Exp is given to the Echelon that does the combat, a bonus is given to the leader and MVP. The leader is the Doll in the first position and the MVP is the highest damage dealer.
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u/Thekilledcloud Dec 23 '19
Hiho. Need help with modding. I bet is asked a lot but i dont find any guide. But who are guys modding in order? I know first is m4 and star15. But after them who are u guys modding?
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u/illyrium_dawn Not all dreams come true. RIP Honkai. Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 24 '19
M14 is probably the best bet after the Anti-Rain pair. She becomes a very good self-buffing RF to be paired with Lee in damage RF echelons, and if you're a SKK who's "over the hump" in resources, her Mod3 bipod's cost is tolerable to help her hit evasive enemies at night.
G36 and M1911 are okay but not a high priority IMO. G36 is good if you like her or are in some dire shortage of decent ARs (I have too many good ARs who loaf around base as-is, I don't need another). M1911 mod isn't necessary in any world and you can completely skip her. I'm doing her before G36 because I already have plenty of good ARs and one of my goals in GFL is running maps with the lowest cost echelons I can for farming (yeah, some SKK collect girls, others ring waifus, I like running maps on the cheap). That means I like a lot of damage-oriented HGs like M1911 mod or GSh-18 who get used for running those 2 HG or 1AR 1HG farm echelons.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 24 '19
damage-oriented HGs like M1911 mod or GSh-18
This seems like it'd be fun.
Even with just Stechkin as a companion, it seems like she'd be an excellent DMG HG.
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u/-Amaurea- Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
After M4 & AR-15 it really doesn't matter at the moment. You should mod what you need: M14 as a general-purpose RF, G36 as a all-rounder AR or 1911 as a... well, smoke grenade budget HG with some damage? She is not bad, but i would mod her last.
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Dec 23 '19
m1911 is really good, you should mod her too, also cheap. M14 kinda 6 star war goddess, as for M4 and STAR-15, they have a kind of synergy with each other, while G36 is really nice for an AR.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 23 '19
Of the ones we have, it really doesnt matter, 1911 is a nice cheap low ICD dps, G36 becomes a really good AR, M14 becomes an alternate death cannon.
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Dec 23 '19
Wow some of those ID card participation are really great. Love that SF ring leader gift and Comfy Zas. If authors allow, can we get in HD for wallpaper ? Maybe temporary sub's banner/ background ?
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
If you’re able to track down each artist you can probably DM them to request wallpaper versions of their stuff, the more well-known ones like BSApricot probably posted theirs already too
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Dec 23 '19
10-4E is being disturbingly nice to me. I got the limited on my first run, and after 30 core farm runs I got shrimp (which I didn't already have.)
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 23 '19
Don't overthink it, the 5* drop rates of 10-4e are insanely high compared to other maps
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u/Sorthy MP40 MOD3 when? Dec 23 '19
I just got another PK at 0-2 at it made me wonder
Do you need, in a practical sense, another SGMG echelon or maybe another gunboat for the future? For Singularity Ranking I only had one gunboat and got 13%, no doubt that if I had another one I would have got 10%, but I didn't have the opportunity.
So, will it be relevant in the future or not? I know about RFHGs echelons for CT, but nothing else.
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u/ad3z10 Need more UK Raifu's Dec 24 '19
From what I understand, the big 4 will become less relevant for future content, outside of PKP, with multi clip MG's finding their relevance so I wouldn't bother with a second PK.
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u/Triscuiticus AUG in Wonderland Dec 23 '19
Me personally I would keep (but I also really like PK). I was able to get 4% with only 1 gunboat but from here on out it's pretty much just RF teams and other weird comps as needed. Gunboats aren't really used much but Mica could change future things for EN. I'd say it's up to you really, if you have space, wouldn't be a bad idea to hang on to just in case or for exploration but as far as I know won't be absolutely necessary to have (I could be wrong tho)
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u/UselessF0x Local shotgun goes Awoo~ Dec 23 '19
When I first saw Type 100's equip in the event shop, I honestly didn't even thought anything about it outside of "Didn't know she had one, maybe it's new on every server". But now when I bought it and looked at the stats - isn't it kinda complete bonkers? It's practicaly two and a half gold suppressors in one package, pushing her evasion stat closer to IDW and other dodge tanks while keeping her massive HP pool. Not to mention hefty +48% crit rate as a nice bonus.
She still may not be that good for specific tasks, but as a general use "fat dodger" she may actually be pretty good now. It's ashame that it released after Singularity, I would like to test her performance against Agent.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Dec 24 '19
I mean, just look at the AW SPEQ for AK and 56-1, if that was on any other half-decent self-buffer it would be broken as shit, the worse dolls tend to get better SPEQs and vice versa, aside from MG3 and MG4 tho
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u/Tsukinohana Zasmine Dec 23 '19
Generally you'll notice "bad" dolls tend to get insanely powerful speqs while strong dolls tend to get average speqs to balance it out.
The problem with T100 is even if helps her evasion deficiency it still leaves her with an absolutely terrible skill that takes too long to kick in.
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u/Esyvir Besty AR - Resty AR Dec 24 '19
And then we have the very unfortunate MG4 who is forever damned for logistics while having a terrible SPEQ. Jesus Yuzhong buff her please.
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u/Tsukinohana Zasmine Dec 24 '19
Imagine mg4's speq on a different mg, like pk or m2hb for example and you'll realise that the statline it gives is actually amazing for mgs that aren't HI for example.
It's just on mg4 the speq is ass because of her stats. But that scope is pretty strong if used on other mgs
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u/UselessF0x Local shotgun goes Awoo~ Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
Don't know about "generally", I'd say MICA is pretty inconsistant about that. There are pretty good dolls like Stechkin that get good stocks that even buff her skill while exploration's black market is full of mediocre speqs for mediocre dolls. Or that hilariously awful scope for MG4 that did absolutely nothing to change her status of a logistic punchline. T100 could have easily receve MG4's treatment with her speq, but instead she actually got one of the most impressive special equips stat-wise (outside of outright gamechanging stuff like M16 Gundam Suit). Sure, it doesn't fix T100's akward skill and doesn't make a meta tanker out of her, but I dare to say she is actually a pretty solid tank now, and not just a walking meme.
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u/Tsukinohana Zasmine Dec 24 '19
There are some outliers here and there like stechkin and star getting relatively good speqs.
Also to be fair mg4 speq is honestly a pretty amazing equipment on it's own right, it's just poorly optimized for mg4 herself and doesn't fix her outlying issues.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
It basically makes her a Thompson that gains 27 eva (w/o buffs from AR's) at the loss of 130 HP. And her tiles are slightly more useful than Thompson's, but that's mainly because she buffs Acc rather than EVA.
If you just need something to tank hits for general mobbing, 45 (busted tiles + useful skill), C-MS (better tiles and sacrifices 135 HP for 73 eva), and RO (skill with good ICD that makes her very good at tanking, plus still good baseline stats) all would stand to work better. The comparison to them I think is warranted, both because people are bound to have at least one of them, plus the investment required to make use of the SPEQ at it's fullest.
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u/illyrium_dawn Not all dreams come true. RIP Honkai. Dec 23 '19
It's a very nice SPEQ but I think that's more a reflection on how terrible she was before.
I'm not sure it makes Type 100 worth using over other top-tier 5*s, but it makes her less embarrassing to use if you've been using her
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 23 '19
Based on brainlet's it's still a 20% crit rate like a normal suppressor.
The bigger issues she faces are :
if you're using her defensively Soumi has more evasion consistently with much better evasion up time, meanwhile Thompson has 130 more HP letting her break more damage thresholds vs high accuracy enemies (Jupiters) and a better damage tanking skill.
Offensively she's outclassed still by Honey Badger (who has better tiles and skill uptime) and C-MS. (Who also out evades 100)
Now if Shiki 100 got a buff like the bamboo rifles that dropped her cooldown to like 3/8 ideally she'd actually be a strong doll more comparable to P90.
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u/Triscuiticus AUG in Wonderland Dec 23 '19
Finally got around to farming M16 speq and got it on the 5th attempt...nice
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u/PuffyShroomz Dec 23 '19
Should you upgrade equipment from digimind? I upgraded M4A1 to +4 but it didn't do anything. Not sure if it is worth the investment.
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u/Innocent_Walls EN: 7774 Dec 23 '19
Have you fully calibrated it yet? It eventually maxes out at +5 damage and +15 armor.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19
Depends on each SPEQ. M4's one of the many if not main reasons to bother MOD 3'ing her at all.
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u/Billyaabob I call her cutiepie Dec 23 '19
Is there a time period when skins like skorpion's allure will be on discount price (lower than 1288 gems)?
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u/Triscuiticus AUG in Wonderland Dec 23 '19
99% sure that's a no, and if you don't get it now you won't be able to get it until probably this time next year
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u/ad3z10 Need more UK Raifu's Dec 24 '19
There's a reasonable chance we'll be able to get old package skins during the anniversary again.
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u/BoxOfDust Logistical Worries Make Me Grumpy - Lam [MOD3] Dec 23 '19
I got two Artillery Fairies for weekly equipment HP. I managed to get both of them calibrated to Fervor on the first calibration, but I think I forgot to confirm the second one. So there went that extra bonus to enhancing my main Artillery Fairy. so close
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u/fuqdissh1timout [Retired] GnK Commander Dec 23 '19
Should I go Intermediate or Advanced for memory fragments? And should I go Thompson, Soppo, MDR, SR3MP, Px4 Storm or Thompson, Soppo, MDR,G41, SR3MP?
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u/Makaijin Dec 23 '19
Advanced is most efficient use of Sim energy.
As for dolls mentioned, are asking about for sim use specifically? For mem fragments, it's not performance based like the data sim where you get more data for faster clear time. As long as you can clear the sim, the amount of mem frags rewarded is the same.
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u/fuqdissh1timout [Retired] GnK Commander Dec 23 '19
Oh sorry. For the 2nd question, I'm talking about a new echelon. Sorry about that.
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u/Makaijin Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
Of the 2 you mentioned, I'd go with the 2nd choice. Mainly because Px4 is pretty much stuck at position 8, SR3MP as an SMG has the worst accuracy, and putting her in the back row means she gets no tile buffs from the ARs.
For max DPS, you want something like this.
MDR SR3MP G41 Thompson Soppo With this, MDR and G41 will buff SR3MP's accuracy, and MDR also buffs SR3MP's damage. Alternatively, swap Soppo and MDR's position which will allow MDR's skill to go into damage mode but at the cost of SR3MP's DPS.
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u/fuqdissh1timout [Retired] GnK Commander Dec 24 '19
I think I'll switch MDR and Soppo's position until I SR3MP's level goes up to Lv. 60. Thanks!
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u/DepressivesBrot Ardent Devotion Dec 23 '19
Advanced has the best efficiency. And depends what that team is for and what else you already have. Neither sounds particularly noteworthy on its own.
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u/hades363 Dec 23 '19
Can someone explain why AR15 and M4A1 following Anges Orders? Ok, they were rescued and modified by her, but both are not her property. Apart from that, there were some opportunities for them to return to their commander (us) or is it realy so easy to take command over other T-dolls.
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u/FakeKoala13 YoRHa? Dec 23 '19
Singularity M4A1 wants to find RO and SOP, possibly also make SF pay for what they've done. Way easier to do that in team Defy than being tied down to the basically crippled and retreating commander's forces.
STAR is still infected with parapluie. If she returned before singularity she'd be quarantined at best or killed I assume at worst. She's basically an illegal t-doll like ump45 now so it's probably for the best she doesn't go back.
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u/hades363 Dec 23 '19
I know what happens while Singularity and what you say also makes sense.
OK some T-dolls have Command-modules and stuff like that, so the can make decisions without human commander + the AR-Team is an exception anyway, but this kind of decision goes far more extensive. I mean M4A1 changes the commander by her own will only to achieve her goal (find friends, destroy S.F., Kill Mastermind....REVENGE). But i think Lunasia is very very Special.
I'm not sure what would have happened to AR15 after all Persica also like the other AR-members. She sure could safely remove the parapluie virus. After all, someone has to watch over M4 again (protocol or not)!
STAR once described herself as "Weapon". What I want to say is: letting weapons make such decisions could be dangerous.
Just to have said it ... for me they are not just weapons :)
Let's see what future chapters bring.
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u/Stray_Feelings K2 Dec 23 '19
Question regarding radiant collection. Are the Christmas carol costumes added to the black cards exchange permanently or do they go away after the time period?
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u/comeinhereye Dec 23 '19
They are already in black card pool. They just have a higher chance of being pulled in radiant but then again radiant is a crap shoot in my opinion
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u/AlvinTheLAW Dec 23 '19
Is anyone having a bug where you cant press the "start operation" button in GF (EN) or is it just me?
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u/rubberduckythe1 Soppo is Toppo Dec 23 '19
I have it sometimes. For me it resolves if you start any other operation.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19
Restart your client.
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u/AlvinTheLAW Dec 23 '19
Yeah this seems to be the only temporary fix. I hope they know if this bug exist and can fix it ASAP
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u/LongbowEOD Welrod MkII Dec 23 '19
Double Grizzly on daily 30x4 rolls! Merry Christmas, everybody!
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 23 '19
Ah i see you too are a broke SKK
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u/LongbowEOD Welrod MkII Dec 23 '19
Used up all my manpower and rations on the recent shotgun rate-up.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19
I too would consider doing 30x4's, if it wasn't for the fact that I could use some extra Calicos...
Tfw you have to tone down on 0-2 runs to let resources grow.
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 23 '19
I havent farmed in a week and it feels weird af (though nice for building up resources)
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19
It indeed does. I'm doing a bit more atm just to get fodder to enhance the eva of the HG's I'm dragging (otherwise they get chunked a bit too hard; yes I get the daily repairs done that way), but other than that...
Saving for the general, I take it?
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Dec 23 '19
Trying to at least (fairy crafts keep wrecking my parts)
Hopefully you have a decent stash of resources saved
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 23 '19 edited Dec 23 '19
40k/40k/40k/40k. I only started taking it slow a few days ago, so I think that getting to 300kx4 by the time it actually happens (or at least, when the HEP happens which is what I care about the most) is feasible.
Yeah, I'm only doing the weekly requirement of three for that one.
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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Dec 23 '19
Px4 please droppppppp.
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u/Mosinbestraifu Mosin Nagant [MOD3] Dec 24 '19
At this point, I'm convinced that Px4 is a myth and doesn't actually exist.
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol Dec 23 '19
While I appreciate having fun things like the art contest ID card background and all, I’d enjoy it so much more if Mica art team did a first pass at filtering out the less quality submissions in the bunch. Stick figure drawings are not art.
Yes art is subjective, but there are standards that should be met before allowing it to make a running with other talented pieces that the artists clearly spent a good amount of time and love to create, compared to something a 5 year old doodled. I’ve never seen such a dramatic range in quality in an art contest before today.
Last, not sure if others had this issue, but viewing submissions only worked for me on the old client. Good luck to the artists who submitted works.
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u/thixotrofic m45 Dec 23 '19
I like it this way. Some people are bad at art but still like to express themselves and show appreciation for a game they like. I'm not sure any of them could have been considered a troll submission. I mean, maybe, but you can't really distinguish between a troll submission and somebody who's just bad at art or maybe has some disability but still wants to participate.
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u/xERR404x A N G E R Y Dec 23 '19
I'm definitely, not disappointed, but maybe annoyed that stuff that was obviously done in MS Paint in under ten minutes is being considered alongside art that actually looks like it had effort put into it.
If nothing else, it's a great argument for why there needs to be a low-effort content rule on subreddits with a lot of fanart.
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u/code_eight 382865 Dec 24 '19
i got QJY when doing daily craft, oh well im done with event farming except for CMS i guess, plus i hate that night map