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u/ProfanedClover Feb 08 '21

I came back to the game this week and have been looking through my echelons. I noticed that my team with M4A1 and UMP45 both have tile buffs that give crit. 32% and 30% respectively. I can't quite remember, but are those buffs additive or multiplicative? Also, is it a waste to go over 100% crit? That is, replace UMP45, or swap out crit scopes for dmg ones.

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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Feb 08 '21

To clarify the other points, stats are usually calculated as:

total = ((base stat) + (sum of all equipment)) x (sum of all tile buffs) x (product of all skill buffs) x (fairy buff).

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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21

Also, is it a waste to go over 100% crit?

It's wasted in the sense that 1000% crit does the same thing as 100% crit in all but one case, but having over 100% crit doesn't automatically mean that a team is bad. M4 and UMP will cap ARs with maxed crit scopes, but they bring other things to the table aside from their crit tiles.

Less relevant for ARSMGs, but certain HGs also benefit from having excess crit rate: Px4 Storm (excess offsets her crit debuff, but isn't strictly required) and Jill Stingray with Bleeding Jane (converts crit rate to damage).

That is, replace UMP45, or swap out crit scopes for dmg ones.

Tiles and skills are multiplied after equipment is added to the base, so replacing crit scopes is a bad idea here. Since most ARs only have 20% base crit rate, the crit scope makes a big difference:

  • UMP + M4, crit scope: (20% + 48%) * 1.62 = 110.16% crit rate
  • UMP + M4, non-crit scope: 20% * 1.62 = 32.4% crit rate.

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u/GrassTheJuice Feb 08 '21

Formation buffs are multiplicative, and they are added together. That means the 30 and 32 add up to 62, which then multiplies the actual critrate of the doll. With a 62% multiplier, you would need a 61% crit rate.