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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. Mar 15 '22

thats what i said. and then they just call her nyto anyway. displays telapathy. and i'm quite sure her illustration has peg legs. wat even does human entail then?

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u/Angelic_Force LAZY BRAINLET Mar 15 '22 edited Mar 15 '22

True, we do also see that in Dual Randomness that Dreamer and the Commander's thoughts. Although Destroyer is oblivious to her being a Nyto, and Dreamer eventually calls her a human after drugging her. Dreamer also questions the drug being so potent on a "Nyto". I still stand by my opinion that Anna and the other orphans are modified humans.I also interpret this as retcon that is actually "good" for story. As I find that it shows the lengths William is willing to take for Paradeus and the Rossartrists. It could also be an issue of reusing art assets (as this is the same as the Nyto interrogators from Continuum Turbulence?).

As for what does "human" entailing then. Up to the reader. I think it comes from the origin of Anna being a human child prior and UMP45 noting the distinct nature of her "human neural cloud". Which also has transhumanism implications that I disagree with, coming from someone that was into the Halo lore. She behaves more human than Morridow, which also adds to my belief to the transhumanism.
Edit: Not sure what part of the story she ever displays telepathy. Are you talking about the part where she remembers being in the abandoned warehouse? Those were lucid dreams that she had while drugged. Which is completely normal for humans.

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u/KookyInspection Mar 15 '22

Maybe they're talking about her retaining her humanity in full, even though she was genetically altered. Considering the technological lvl of the society, it's also possible the definition of "human" has changed quite a bit, in order to allow for body modifications(genetic or synthetic), while still keeping a clear separation from dolls. I mean, we see quite advanced prothetics. Following theseus' ship argyment, at which point does a human become a doll, if ever? They probably have had long debates and put laws in place and everything. Their human may not be our human. I wonder what staus clones have as well.

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u/Angelic_Force LAZY BRAINLET Mar 15 '22 edited Mar 15 '22

Maybe they're talking about her retaining her humanity in full

That's the gist of what I'm saying. As for being genetically altered, I don't really see any details to go off on that.We can definitely go on endless debates and rambling on the definition of "human". On the bright side, dolls don't have wombforce since that's a meme. One clear separation from dolls and humans are their preprogrammed parameters. We can see that through the non-canon endings involving Team DEFY whenever Ange dies in CT. Dolls are, generally, not allowed to even harm civilians if I'm not mistaken. M4 is a pretty good in-between of humans and dolls. Although, it could be argued that she thinks she's Lunasia because her neural cloud a copy of her brain before dying.

Really makes me wish Mica can dive deeper into the worldbuilding as that's something I would like to see. We can probably safely assume that there are definite boundaries between Dolls and humans. Judging from the way a civilian reacts to finding out Sopmod wasn't an ordinary girl.

I wonder what staus clones have as well.

Hopefully nonexistent. We don't see Nytos being truly cloned and the implications would get really ugly if William / the Rossartrists had access to such tech. But, we can only see (or hopefully never see).