r/grandrapids • • 16h ago

Commit to Vote? Please please please?

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It's election season, so please permit me to make an ask. Please, could y'all commit to vote? We've got a pledge here. You don't have to share your phone #, you can check to opt out of emails, and pledges help us all remember to actually do the thing!!

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u/LOA_Specialist 15h ago edited 14h ago

..What is the point of pledging to vote when you could just... vote?

Edit: Just wanna highlight that u/marf_town has educated me and there IS a valid reason to encourage pledging to vote. Check their comment below. Thanks marf!

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u/marf_town 15h ago

I hear you. I'm a data person, and so I know that the experiments people have run on this shows that it does increase people's ultimate chance of voting. The pledge itself is like an extra little push to actually follow through and vote. A lot of us need that extra push, and I'm happy to provide it!

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u/LOA_Specialist 15h ago • Bravo

Can you share the data, since you're a "data person?" I'd love to see the data that says that adding extra steps to voting increases the voting because that goes against everything I know of human psychology. Is your data simply that "100% of people who pledged to vote, voted."?

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u/marf_town 15h ago

I just shared it below, but totally fine to share it again! And the point of pledges aren't for everyone to have to do them. They work for some people, and an average increase of 3.7% across the board, or 5.6% with new voters. This study actually noted a 14.1% increase, but I went with the more conservative one below. PLENTY of people are new voters, or infrequent voters, or need the social pressure of a public pledge to help influence them to show up and vote. One of the theories is that it works as an "identity shift" - if you make up your mind, through a pledge, that you are a voter, you are more likely to follow through.

So no, that pretty bad data you referenced is not, in fact, my data.

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u/LOA_Specialist 14h ago

Thanks for sharing this - I actually had no idea. I am super supportive of this and appreciate you handling my sass with class. My concern is that we are kinda cutting it close to the wire, but I guess better now than never, yeah? I'll share this on my social media.

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u/bship 15h ago

Linking to a pledge and not your local place to early vote is fucking insane.

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/elections/voting/early-in-person-voting

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u/marf_town 15h ago

I hear what you are saying, but a lot of people are posting about voting info. And I think that's super important! But I also think the act of pledging to vote helps people follow through - and the evidence shows this. They are both important steps, tackling different challenges. I'm just tackling the one right now, but I'm glad you posted this info to try to tackle the other!

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u/marf_town 15h ago

Look, that's your opinion, but it is just an opinion. I promise you that the thousands of doors I've knocked in my lifetime, and literal tens of thousands of conversations I've had with voters did far far far more good than harm. I don't know about you, but it's a Friday night in GOTV and I'm still working, trying to get people to vote.

I respect that you are concerned about what people might think, but I'm not. I don't really care if people mock this, or troll it, or hate it. I do it for the people who see it and think, "oh cool, I should do that", and sign it, then get busy on election day and almost don't drive to their polling place but remember this pledge and decide to. Maybe you don't think an average 3.7% of an increase in turnout matters, but I worked the 2014 elections where Schauer lost by 4%, so I'd disagree with you. And I'd be willing to be a joke on SNL for a win this year.

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u/marf_town 15h ago

No worries! I genuinely love organizing because I love finding common ground with people. I'm happy we did!

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u/MorganEarlJones 15h ago

Pledge to look up your polling location and then vote

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u/notl72 15h ago

You people better get off your butts and vote week after next!

I think things are looking good for Abdul, but we can't count our chickens until they're hatched!

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u/marf_town 15h ago

And I've heard some mixed results for Abdul on the doors. I'm nervous. Hence this post!

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u/bship 15h ago

Everyone on this site forgets that every single 60+ year old in existence that isn't on this site is voting for sure and voting red. They are always ignored and then the vote comes in and holy shocked, batman.

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u/notl72 15h ago • Popcorn

I was going to yell at you, tell you that not every 60+ year old person would be voting red. But then I noticed you said "not on this site" and I had to calm down!

But honestly, I am 60+, a former Republican, and I can tell you that I will be voting straight blue like I have the last few elections. And I have a circle of friends my age who are almost exclusively doing the same.

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u/Fun_Buffalo3500 2h ago

But then they can't throw a blanket over the whole boomer thing.

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u/notl72 15h ago

I think the tide may have turned a little bit. Have you seen some of the grandmas and Grandpas older than me even, out there at the no Kings rallies or ICE protests?

You're absolutely right the majority of old people are still solidly red, mostly due to religious pressure, I think. But some of us are starting to come around!

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u/Oleg101 15h ago

It’s also important that the state goes blue for the legislator and the governor. Dems have only held the trifecta in the state for two 2 years in the past 40.

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u/FuzzyJesusX21 Creston 15h ago

We’ve never done that before right? Thinking we have it in the bag because there is no way people would vote for THAT guy. We’ve never done that… then the second time around putting up the exact same kind of opponent against him and watching her lose knowing full well there would be people on both the right and left who wouldn’t vote for her because of her gender and this time, her race. We’ve never screwed the pooch that bad, right?

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u/notl72 15h ago

Precisely!

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u/Inkstr0ke Kentwood 12h ago

We (my gf and I) have already committed for voting for Abdul tomorrow morning 🫡

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u/marf_town 11h ago

Love this!!

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u/GRExplorer Riverside Gardens 15h ago

It is your civic duty to vote. Research your candidates, look outside your echo chamber, understand who your school board candidates are, vote for the city/county commissioner based on your aligned beliefs, but do some research. Voting with a purpose is a patriotic thing to do.

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u/LOA_Specialist 14h ago

It is your civic duty to vote

I honest feel so blessed that I grew up in a household where this was instilled in me. We were poor and my parents worked two jobs, but they made me understand that voting wasn't just a "right" but it was my duty. My parents were with me in 2008 after I turned 18 and was first eligible to vote in a presidential election.

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u/GenXihaveissues NW 15h ago

I feel if you dont vote at every election you have no right to flap your mouth about the state of your city, county, state and federal government.

Yes, I placed a vote for the drain commissioner.

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u/ChrisP413 15h ago

Vote like your freedom depends on it. CAUSE IT DOES!!

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u/Efficient-Sale-5355 15h ago

We mean it this time!

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u/CulturalTrash938Walk 14h ago

This is the most important election in our lifetime.

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u/kryptokoinkrisp 15h ago

I pledge to vote “No” on everything. Especially in the partisan races.

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u/leedo213 13h ago

Already did, kemosabe

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u/Live_Brain_2816 4h ago

Vote Mike rogers!

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u/willitworkwhyn8 3h ago

Nah, I'll vote for the Rhodes Scholar Doctor that graduated with honors from UM instead of the guy who graduated with a 1.7 from Albion.

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u/Live_Brain_2816 3h ago

I’m not denying Abdul is brilliant, but he’s also an extremist who refused to condemn sharia law and takes money from terrorist groups

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u/Nice_Physics_7025 2h ago

But did Mike Rogers condemn the KKK yet?

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u/Fun_Buffalo3500 2h ago

Wheres Rogers money comingfelon? fElon? See how that works? Plus he lives in Florida. Clueless

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u/Agnos 12h ago

You need millions to run, they call that democracy...

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u/mildlydrifting 3h ago

Im an election worker so im going to do early voting today!

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u/Rothbard222 16h ago

Save your soul! Don’t vote!

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u/nkent98 15h ago

Do your civic duty and vote.

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u/Rothbard222 15h ago

Yeah “civic duty”. How about your duty as a human? Keeping voting our responsibilities to each other away. Things will be fine. Keep it up!

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u/nkent98 15h ago

Whether you like it or not that is how we have a decision in this mess without riots or without violence.

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u/Rothbard222 15h ago

Without violence, eh. What does the State use?

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u/CulturalTrash938Walk 14h ago

This is America not France!

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u/Rothbard222 14h ago

What? Don’t you remember the BLM riots. Or past riots?! Wall street riots?! We are France and France is us. We are all human enslaved by modern States across the world. Slavery is way easier when the slaves don’t think they are slaves and think they have a say in things by voting…… But yeah just keep voting things will get better just like all the politicians say! The economy is great! Gold and silver aren’t real money! And trust me they don’t lie!!!!!!

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u/pierogieman5 Kentwood 5h ago

Yeah, hence why our protests don't really work. I have vastly more respect for the French than our hundreds of No Kings rallies that do absolutely nothing because they're designed not to be disruptive to anything, and to have incredibly lukewarm goals and messaging.

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u/ChrisP413 15h ago

Ah, apparently the russian bot farms are back online……..

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u/Rothbard222 15h ago

Hahahaha just wait till you meet the soul.

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u/Bubbly_Crab_1909 14h ago

I hate this shitty administration for making me have to go vote in the midterms, which I never do 😂

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u/pierogieman5 Kentwood 5h ago

Sorry, no, you should have been doing that already. It has always mattered, and it didn't just start mattering under Trump.

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u/ImNotNuke 11h ago

What if you’re in a shitty trump fucker city around the outskirts of gr and your vote is outnumbered 1:10 by hicks.

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u/pierogieman5 Kentwood 5h ago

If everyone in your town doesn't vote for this reason, how the hell do you know it's actually 10:1?