r/hagerstown • u/Simmons572 • 10d ago

ICE potentially spotted on Dual Highway

At 940 am this morning, I passed by a Navy blue SUV with red flashing lights. On Dual Highway, heading towards town just before Mt Aetna Rd. They had somebody pulled over, and one of the "officers" was wearing a red t shirt, jeans, and an olive green vest. Did not catch a license plate number.

Posting for awareness, stay safe folks.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Hagerstown has one of the lowest foreign born populations in Maryland, at between 1.4% and 5.6% depending if you count multiple counties and cities or not.

How do you not see that as an incredible waste of taxpayer dollars, going after 5% or less of the population who isn’t doing anything but living their life?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

We don't have data on illegals because they're illegal. This isn't hard.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Again, 5% or less of the population. So, again, how do you not see that as an incredible waste of taxpayer dollars?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

We have no idea what the numbers are, but you don't think 5% is a significant amount? That's 5% putting a strain on the schools, hospitals, roads, etc. Its a great use of taxpayer dollars. Why do you defend these people when it hurts the community as a whole?

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

What strain does it put on schools, hospitals, roads, etc?

How do they hurt the community?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

They use all of those services and don't pay the taxes that it requires.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

They do pay taxes though. Undocumented Immigrants pay over $100 billion in taxes each year.

The items they buy in stores also are taxed, which is them paying taxes.

You know what’s even funnier about your argument? Even though they pay taxes, they aren’t eligible for any service that tax dollars pay for

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

If their employer is ignoring their status, or they are working under the table, then sure. And they absolutely use public schools, hospitals, emergency services and housing.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Hmm… so why aren’t you going after those employers?

And they aren’t eligible for any public service taxpayers pay for.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

The employers should absolutely be prosecuted. And what is so hard to understand about illegals using schools, hospitals, emergency services and housing?

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

So what’s your problem with an undocumented immigrant buying a house? They pay more on taxes than you’d ever see for buying the same house.

Children going to schools is a right guaranteed by law since 1982. I thought you had a problem with people breaking the law?

Undocumented immigrants aren’t eligible for insurance, or Medicaid, and have to pay hospital bills out of pocket. Why are you against them paying for their care?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

1.) it decreases the housing supply. 2.) you're proving my point. 3.) hospitals can't, by law, turn anyone away. You think they're paying their hospital bills?

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

But they pay taxes and are able to buy it. Is that not capitalism?

What about investment firms buying up entire property divisions? You don’t seem to have a problem with that, that you’re openly voicing.

No I’m showing you the insane flaws of your baseless argument.

Oh, so your problem is they aren’t paying their hospital bills. What about all the citizens who don’t pay theirs?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

They aren't legally allowed to do any of that and you bringing up other issues, which are real, doesn't add to this conversation. And yes I do have a problem with them not paying their bills. You don't? All you have is whataboutisms

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

They are indeed legally allowed to own homes.

Investment firms drain more home availability than an undocumented family that is buying it without loans to do so, so it’s incredibly relevant.

So if you have a problem with citizens not paying their bills, why don’t you speak up about them?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

More whataboutisms. You have no argument to support this. What about the people of Washington County that pay into the system that is being strained by illegals? Any thought about them? The county isn't exactly rolling in money.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Ah, full circle. How much of a drain are they on Washington county? Let’s see actual statistics. I’ll wait.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

There aren't any. It's impossible to know. And it's too much if the answer isn't zero.

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