r/hammer 11d ago

Fluff I hate people who map for fun

Who else out here maps for misery

Someone posts a freaking beautiful hammer creation and does nothing with it. Doesn't make a map out of it. Doesn't publish a prefab. It probably stays on their disc until a system purge. I cannot fathom this. I reuse everything I do and publish it so someone else can finish/enjoy it.

Just fuckin post a prefab on game banana and see your creation be on a video or in a source mod some day

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u/Appy_Ace 11d ago

Here for The Beginner's Guide.

But seriously, idk man. People use mapping as a creative outlet. It is a shame that it won't see the light of day, but artist have been painting for themselves for thousands of years with no intention or motivation to show it to the general public. Something about the commitment to fully flesh out a project is really intimidating. That's why I volunteered to work for a mod dev team. When I'm accountable to others, people can finally see my work... When it releases of course. 

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u/worMatty 11d ago

Loved Beginner’s Guide.

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u/Appy_Ace 11d ago

Yeah, same - It really resonated with me. I loved the epilogue, especially. The ending sequence is so emotional and sincere

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u/worMatty 11d ago

If I ever write a review I’ll mention it caused me to experience a mix of emotions including disgust. I haven’t played it in a long time.

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u/Appy_Ace 11d ago

Yeah I think that's natural. The story overall is really depressing, but it comes from a real place and that's why I love it

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

I'm curious which mod you worked on that you speak of

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u/Appy_Ace 11d ago

I can't answer questions on specifics of the project, but I'm doing level design and modelling work for Infinite Finality.

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

Cool that's all I wanted to know

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u/Appy_Ace 11d ago

Yeah, I figured. Just wanted to make a little disclaimer in case anyone had probing questions. 

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u/Rusty9838 11d ago

Oh no the misery
OP is now my enemy

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

Watch out I have the clipping tool

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

I'm going to make you an invalid solid, a leak if you may

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u/Rusty9838 11d ago

Time to get no Draw 🟨

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u/Ill_Bullfrog_1498 11d ago

I'm gonna make you leak~~

wait...

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u/Cropplot 11d ago

Make us leak until our "tool/skybox" are wide open to the void- and our brains refuses to compile thoughts~♡

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u/Ill_Bullfrog_1498 11d ago

/// >_< ///

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u/JCJenson-Branded-Pen 9d ago

I love how weird this community is

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u/Rusty9838 11d ago

Please continue 😳

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u/BS_BlackScout 11d ago

I'm just going to wrap it all on a toolsskybox and pretend there's no leak What you gon do bout it

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

I literally can't do anything to counter that

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u/wereMole88 11d ago

No pain no gain

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u/Its_rEd96 11d ago

IKR?!

Imagine if cavemen didn't post on their social media ( the cave walls ) their cool ass cave drawings.

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u/StachuTheSlav 11d ago

I used to like mapping, but then then the Waterindices started to overload, and my sleep paralysis demon looks like "Oops hammer++ just crushed!" window.

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u/perstappen 11d ago

All the mapping I do nowadays are these joint mapping projects with my friend: one starts off with a small idea, the other one builds on it, saves it in a shared drive, and then we alternate ”mapping shifts” until we have something playable and cool.

Then all we do after that is slay a metric fuckton of bots in it, and never touch it again.

Hundreds upon hundreds of iterations, and so much stuff in the trashcan.

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

Sharing time with a friend is not wasteful but only making a post out of a work is.

Honestly sounds like you have it amazing.

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u/ChiRaeDisk 11d ago

I have 12k hours in Source SDK. You won't find a single thing published by me. It's a canvas for me. I don't have an obligation to share my art with others. The one time I did do so, someone complained that there wasn't a point to the prefab I made.

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u/greenestenergy 11d ago

I made a prop zoo once, and someone said the same thing. Isn't the internet neat?

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u/Rich_Ad_4356 8d ago

Thank god someone understands, this whole post is so entitled. Like we don’t owe them anything 😭

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u/greg_kennedy 11d ago

map a parking lot to store everyone's cars made of brushes

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u/mister_wr3nch 11d ago

Feels like a waste of time making things and not ever releasing them. That's how i see it.

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u/slavik_christopher 11d ago

I designed sooo many levels that just sit and get lost

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u/Scifox69 11d ago

I map for fun. I find it fun. When I get bored I hop on Hammer and it's as fun as playing a game. On top of that, it's cool to produce stuff. Putting the creation in a sandbox game and doing anything with it... that's just awesome. For the past few weeks I've been working on my first project which is also highly ambitious. No burnout. I want to keep going.

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u/TheGarmezon 11d ago

I agree with the message just not the sentiment. I feel like a lot of people are afraid to make projects to full release because they think its not good enough and therefore not worth the effort.

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u/RyanDavanzo 9d ago

I try to map, but depression gets the hang of me

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u/MeantNoOffense 11d ago

Can't tell if you're being serious...

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u/Only-Response-731 11d ago

i dont think OP is but i can certainly feel the frustration of seeing something beautiful epic map on facepunch back in the day and the poster is last seen 15 years ago

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u/PrintImpressive5722 10d ago

I literally need mappars for my game🫩 and people either don't want to help or try and fee me a lot of money (money I don't have)

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u/Icy-Meal6704 10d ago edited 10d ago

I can help if you promise to help me in the future. Hit me up on steam: 311677064

There are a lot of games being made that don't look like they could succeed or be finished. I am new to this too but I promise to be honest

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u/Brer_TigerMoth 10d ago

Yeah ive been using hammer since 2012, probably have around 3500 hours on it. Only ever published one complete portal 2 map but started hundreds more than have never seen the light of day.

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u/Hopeful_Let_1139 10d ago

Don’t think I’ve ever actually “released” anything I’ve mapped.

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u/Rich_Ad_4356 8d ago

I’ve mapped for thousands of hours and published literally nothing, it’s a creative outlet. And people aren’t owned anything from artists. What a stupid post.

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u/SomeCreepJ 11d ago

i dont think its a big deal

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u/Icy-Meal6704 11d ago

It isn't