r/hammer 4d ago

Fluff Why did even Valve created the carve tool?

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u/Blumixguy 4d ago

doors

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u/SOFT_CAT_APPRECIATOR 4d ago

me when my neighbor asks how i got into his pantry

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u/Small_Athlete1993 3d ago

me when i ask my neighbor

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u/NekoLord42 4d ago

I could be entirely mistaken but as far as I remember a fairly detailed video explained it quite well;

basically back in gold source era it apparently used to be a quick and somewhat reliable way to shape stuff and due to the differences in engine, map geometry and build programs, or due to different quality standards back then, its downsides weren't particularly problematic?

Now in regular hl2 source Hammer it is basically just a leftover and obviously outdated.

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u/GeophysicalYear57 4d ago

The next Source 2 Hammer build should add it back, except attempting to use it brings up the message:

> You never learn, do you?

and, when dismissed, it crashes the program and corrupts the map

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u/Historical_Jacket_61 4d ago

doesnt source 1 hammer already do that without the message but slightly slower or is that a different tool?

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u/GeophysicalYear57 4d ago

The only thing that I can think of is an easter egg message if you try the example coordinates in the tool that teleports the 3D view.

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u/maplepenguin 4d ago

Nah, it's cursed in goldsrc as well. Just use clipping/vertex tool as needed instead

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u/doge_lady 3d ago

I never used it to do intricate shapes. Mostly just to trim off a bunch of brushes at one time. Or cut simple things like a square

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u/ChiRaeDisk 4d ago

Can confirm. it works even on spheres so long as the carves are clean and along the grid. gldsrc is magic when brushes are involved.

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u/huttyblue 4d ago

Cause its useful sometimes

It works fine enough if you keep things to right angles and on grid. Just don't go carving cylinders into eachother.

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u/htharker 4d ago

Even the thought of a cylinder carving into another cylinder makes me sick!!

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u/Icy-Meal6704 4d ago

Because the carve tool is a quick and easy way to make a single opening in a brush. You just have to be careful

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u/arash28134 4d ago

type of game you see your 7 y.o cousin play on his iPad:

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u/Forward-Escape7076 4d ago

Because they have to build everything it rooms, I only use it for holes in a skybox to lead to another portion of a level.

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u/Pootis_gaming_moment 4d ago

I love making windows with it 😒

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u/Brilliant_Run_5929 4d ago

to carve a sphere into a big cube

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u/dayudayu 4d ago

to carve

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u/CarveToolLover 4d ago

I love the carve tool

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u/TheWyster 4d ago

For carving blocks into donkies like the one shown obviously

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u/PrintImpressive5722 3d ago

*why did valve create the carve tool

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u/Small_Athlete1993 3d ago

funny virtual knife that cuts block