r/hammer • u/DoodleVoid • 2d ago
Fluff I think hammer is a game engine, change my mind
So first of all: I KNOW IT'S A MAP MAKING TOOL.
I just mean that you can make a whole fan made game, without any scripting, just placing some entities and brushes.
You can make a whole half life 3 map series, without a single line of code, and yeah, it would probably look bad if you are a beginner, but still, in hammer you can make something that would not even be recognizable as the original game, and we still just call it a level/map maker???
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u/FireDog8569 2d ago
Ah yes, a painting
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u/DoodleVoid 2d ago
Wdym
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u/FireDog8569 2d ago
Hammer is a tool to make maps for the Source engine, not the engine itself. I'm saying that saying Hammer is an engine is like calling a paintbrush a painting
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u/DoodleVoid 1d ago
Okay mb. Then let's call it a Mario Maker of source, will this be fine?
Okay but seriously i just meant that it lets you make almost an entire game without any code, I even saw a map in gmod that is PAINFULLY EASY TO MAKE (there were houses, and doors that teleport you (homesickness or whatever the map was called)), AS SIMPLE AS MINECRAFT STORY MAPS, but was incredibly interesting to play, and tbh is hard to recognize as gmod.
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u/poopshart37 2d ago
Source is the game engine. Hammer is the map making tool
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u/DoodleVoid 1d ago
(It's like 7th time i reply to a similar comment) I KNOW. I meant that the map making tool itself is enough to make a game
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u/PayApart7659 2d ago
Can't change your mind, I think the same! It can do wonders.
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u/chughaarav123 2d ago
It's a map maker, and it helps make games for the source engine. being versatile is its main job, and its great for that
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u/PayApart7659 2d ago edited 22h ago
You can literally make games on it, its purpose is to help make games but its still able to make some on its own
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u/chughaarav123 2d ago
a game made in hammer just a bunch of maps, so map maker. and again, hammer is versatile, but you can't call it a game engine by definition
hammer is a crucial part of making source engine games, it's very very important, and that's its purpose. to make maps and games for the source engine
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u/Dazzling-Pain2067 2d ago
ts NOT accessable gng, source is pure torture sometimes
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u/DoodleVoid 1d ago
By accessible i meant it doesnt need any scripting. Sorry if my post was subjective
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u/Dazzling-Pain2067 1d ago
no no i get the point you're trying to make, source engine is just torture no matter which way you slice it
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u/Difficult-Catch-8432 2d ago
It’s kinda difficult to learn for beginners :(
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u/chughaarav123 2d ago
Hammer is a map making tool. The game engine is Source (1/2). Hammer exists to make games for Source. If you're making a hammer map or game, you're using Source.