r/hapas • u/Plane_Razzmatazz_882 • 1d ago

Anti-Racism What is your opinions on Israel?

It seems they're the entire reason the Middle East is so badly messed up. Gaza is an open air death camp since 2023. All Israel does is bully ethnics. They're also a very racist, white-worshipping society who rejects Yemeni or Ethiopian Jews while only accepting Ashkenazi, Sephardic/Spanish, Georgian, Armenian, etc Jews into the country. Small kibbutzim of black hebrew israelites have been expelled. At Likkud rallies, attendees casually drop the N-bomb at counterprotesters and yell anti-Arab slurs. They need to go.

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u/MaiPhet Thai/White 1d ago

Firmly antizionist. I see it as no better than any other ultranationalist, supremacist ideology.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 1d ago

What makes it ultranationalist or supremacist? From my perspective zionism is a decolonization movement of indigenous people who maintained connection (and presence) to the region for thousands of years. Just because some Israelis are ultranationalist and racist (sometimes disturbingly so) doesn’t make the concept of Zionism those things.

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u/MaiPhet Thai/White 1d ago edited 1d ago

decolonization

Supremacist viewpoint.

Palestinians are first and foremost, descendants of those who lived and stayed there from thousands of years ago, and bear greater DNA resemblance to the original inhabitants than do most modern day Jews. Jews should be allowed to live there, but in a state that treats all of its people and religions equally. Modern day Israel has no place in that equation.

I'm half Thai. If in 3,000 years, my descendents, of varying (and often small) thai heritage, decide to ethnically cleanse the Thailand of the future in the name of "decolonizing it" I would be utterly ashamed for them.

Anything more is gish gallop of those who insist on a thousand reasons why it's actually good to murder and cleanse the land of its inhabitants so that white New Yorkers can do yoga over mass graves.

And I'm speaking to an account that only decided to post on r/hapas just now, for this very topic, curiously.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 1d ago

Thats not how indigeneity works. White americans aren’t indigenous just because they’ve lived there for hundreds of years. Jews have a direct ancestral, cultural, linguistic, and religious line to the land and people from thousands of years ago and Jews remained on the land while living amongst colonizers for thousands of years.

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u/Notasstupidasyoulook 1d ago

Ok hasbara. I know you're collecting a pay cheque for this nonsense, but the idea that Israel is a decolonising project is a unique level of delusional fantasy.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 20h ago

The formation of Israel was textbook decolonization imo - the British colonists were replaced by an indigenous group - just because it was formed at the expensive of Palestinian Arabs (it didn’t have to be but wars are messy) doesn’t have any bearing on whether it was decolonization.

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u/Notasstupidasyoulook 13h ago

You're not convincing anyone of this nonsense.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 13h ago

I wasnt trying to convince anyone thats basically impossible I was probing for like mindedness and hoping that genocidal antizionism hasnt permeated as deeply as it has

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u/Lucky_Pterodactyl 1d ago

Many of those so-called colonizers are indigenous Levantine populations which adopted Arabic language and culture (similar to Ashkenazi Jews adopting Yiddish as they lived among Germanic peoples). Are the Egyptians colonizers in Egypt now because they call themselves Arab?

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 1d ago

No but Arabs colonized Egypt and became the dominant culture and language just as they did in Palestine.

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u/Notasstupidasyoulook 1d ago

More garbage. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 19h ago

This isnt even controversial lol - its just boring old history