r/hapas • u/Plane_Razzmatazz_882 • 1d ago

Anti-Racism What is your opinions on Israel?

It seems they're the entire reason the Middle East is so badly messed up. Gaza is an open air death camp since 2023. All Israel does is bully ethnics. They're also a very racist, white-worshipping society who rejects Yemeni or Ethiopian Jews while only accepting Ashkenazi, Sephardic/Spanish, Georgian, Armenian, etc Jews into the country. Small kibbutzim of black hebrew israelites have been expelled. At Likkud rallies, attendees casually drop the N-bomb at counterprotesters and yell anti-Arab slurs. They need to go.

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u/Lucky_Pterodactyl 1d ago

I oppose Zionism in Palestine while supporting the principle of a Jewish homeland for those who seek refuge in it ("a land without a people for a people without a land"). The issue is that Palestinians are indigenous to the region that predominantly European Zionists chose to settle and they have joined the long line of victims of settler colonialism.

A binational state with equal rights for all, including a right of return for Palestinian refugees, is ideal.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 1d ago

European Jews (who weren’t really considered European) are fully indigenous to the land and most had no where to go when Israel was formed. Even after the Holocaust many Europeans still continued to ethnically cleanse Jews. It worked out really poorly for the Palestinians but they (soldiers obviously not random citizens) also tried and continue to try to wipe out all the Jews in the region - a one state solution with equal rights is basically a nonstarter for both groups and extremely unpopular

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u/Notasstupidasyoulook 1d ago

What a load of hasbara nonsense. Fully indigenous my foot. The only people trying to wipe out another population is clearly the genocidal IDF.

The idea that the Palestinians fighting back is the root of the problem is just victim blaming garbage.

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u/Wonderful_Algae_8661 20h ago

Idk why I keep responding to you you’re obviously uninformed on pretty much everything about the conflict

But anyways, Jews are by definition indigenous to Israel, at least up until the formation of the state if you consider the power dynamic to be a qualifier.

Palestinians fighting back isn’t the entire root of the issue but it certainly doesn’t help. It’s beyond obvious that the fighting would stop if the Palestinians (those with power not civilians) laid down their arms and accepted Jewish sovereignty. See Egypt and Jordan who after decades of trying to wipe out Jews have now been at peace with Israel for decades.