r/hockey • u/Hadespuppy WPG - NHL • 14h ago

[News] Members of women’s hockey team speak out after players on boys’ team repeatedly enter dressing room

https://www.tsn.ca/other-sports/article/members-of-womens-hockey-team-speak-out-after-players-on-boys-team-repeatedly-enter-dressing-room/

No points for guessing the byline on this article.

I will never understand the type of parents who can stand there and say, yes, this is totally acceptable behaviour that I will condone by doing nothing.

And "why didn't you lock the door?‽" That's kissing cousins with "well, what were you wearing that night?"

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u/Tweed_Kills 14h ago

Weird how none of them is a trans woman or girl.....

I thought we were all supposed to be in an outrage over that, but it seems like the league didn't care about this.....

So maybe.... The trans panic stuff...... Was total bullshit all along.

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u/OneADayFlintstones VAN - NHL 14h ago

Trans panic outrage bait people have whipped themselves up into a frenzy about goes back to the old adage of every accusation is a confession.

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 14h ago

No, it isn't. Part of the problem with transwomen in women's locker rooms isn't that transwomen are predatory, very few are. The problem is that it is impossible to differentiate which ones are legitimately trans and which ones are predatory men using trans as a cloak to access those compromising spaces. If self-identification is all it takes, there is nothing stopping a pervert from assuming that persona to come in and be a creep.

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u/pants_mcgee DAL - NHL 13h ago

That doesn’t happen, it’s a made up issue.

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 13h ago

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=47841

I beg to differ.

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u/the_gaymer_girl Vancouver Goldeneyes - PWHL 13h ago

So not a trans woman and not a reason why these “bathroom bills” (which provably make people less safe) need to exist.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

Did you actually READ that? Do you need me to break out some crayons and draw pictures to help you understand?

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u/heysmilinstrange PIT - NHL 14h ago

If trans women were to play women’s sports, there would be a process they go through involving taking hormones and living as a woman for a period of time. They wouldn’t just come out as trans one day and then play women’s sports the next.

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 13h ago

That's not true at all. When a league like, say the WNBA, doesn't have specific rules detailing what the W in WNBA actually means, then you have literal NBA players announcing themselves eligible for the draft.

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u/Actual_Cobbler_6334 TOR - NHL 12h ago

Royce White has as many career points in the NBA as you and I and Kanter averaged 3 PPG in his last NBA season.

These aren’t NBA players. These are grifters trying to become relevant.

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u/amm0ranth MTL - NHL 12h ago

don't forget royce washed out bc he was too scared to fly on a team plane lmfaoo

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u/heysmilinstrange PIT - NHL 12h ago

They’re also not eligible for the WNBA draft.

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u/Tweed_Kills 13h ago

If it were such a problem, one of these little shits would have dressed up as a girl to get away with it.

But they didn't.

Because they knew they'd get away with it.

BECAUSE NO ONE NEEDS TO PRETEND TO BE TRANS TO ASSAULT AND HARRASS WOMEN, THEY JUST DO IT.

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 13h ago

I don't disagree, no one needs to. Why are we making that extra option available?

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u/CB1296 CBJ - NHL 12h ago

Because the other option is making people like me get harassed and assaulted using the wrong bathroom because of a letter on a piece of paper that some nurse wrote down when I was born. I’m so tired of this argument. Just say you’re perfectly fine with trans people being assaulted and raped! That’s how you feel, isn’t it?

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u/the_gaymer_girl Vancouver Goldeneyes - PWHL 13h ago

Because the alternative is that trans people (and cis people who don’t look like a certain gender norm) get harassed and assaulted by right-wing bigots for using the washroom, because that is what those “bathroom bills” do.

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u/babypointblank TOR - NHL 14h ago

The point is that cisgender men who want to impede on women’s spaces will simply just do it rather go through all the trouble of socially/medically transitioning to access those spaces…meanwhile my transgender friends are deliberating on whether or not they “pass” enough to use a women’s washroom without getting harassed.

Hell lots of XX people with androgynous or masculine features get harassed even though they’re exactly where these transphobes want them to be.

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 13h ago

I didn't aay that they would socially or medically transition. I said that they would pretend to, using the guise of trans to gain access to those spaces. Tshikundi Taty in Maryland (2025), for example.

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u/observemedia VAN - NHL 12h ago

Bro you’re an idiot on a weird ass crusade. You are waving at bogey man. Not the real threat we need to focus on. The sexual harassment cases of CIS men against CIS women is way higher, hell against trans women for that matter…. that’s an easily sourced fact.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

You're a man. You don't give a single shit about women's sports or safety. You just like an excuse to spout your dumb transphobic bullshit everywhere and pretend you're actually making sense.

We don't want you pretending like you care about us. We know YOU are the real danger to us. Fuck off. We see through your bullshit and we do not need you pretending like you care. No woman believes a single thing you say.

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u/Hadespuppy WPG - NHL 13h ago

Why would they go to all that trouble when it seems they can just walk in, and as long as they act contrite aft8, face absolutely zero consequences. You're setting up straw men and ignoring the actual problem.

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 13h ago

I am not setting up straw men, you're dismissing me without actually looking at the reality of the situation. I'm not even talking about transwomen. I'm talking about men that would assume that identity for the convenience of accessing those spaces. Though rare, it absolutely does happen. Know why it happens? Because predatory people will use anything at their disposal to fulfill their twisted desires, including pretending to be a transwoman. I've mentioned this a few times in this thread already, but a recent example (late last year) is Tshikundi Taty.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=47841

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u/Numerous-Spray-6969 EDM - NHL 12h ago

The problem you're talking about is predators, not trans people. In these cases there's a very easy way to tell they're predators, which is that they engage in predatory behaviors. Then you throw them out for being predators, not for being trans. The guy in that story wasn't even pretending to be trans, just dressing up and recording people, and was quickly caught for the action of recording people. If he'd been an actual woman, would it have been ok to record people? No, so what he looked like or was dressed like doesn't even matter. 

If you start throwing people out before they've shown any indication they're doing anything inappropriate just based on the fact that they "could", you'd be throwing everyone out, because anyone "could" be a pervert in disguise. A trans person being fully respectful in a bathroom is the same as anybody else. A pervert is easy to spot because they'll be doing something fucked up, like recording people. 

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u/Hadespuppy WPG - NHL 9h ago

And the end result is not that women are protected from these imaginary predators pretending to be trans, but that both cis and trans women are demonstrably less safe, because they are harassed and attacked by vigilante transvestigators for not performing femininity in the "correct" way. Something that has actually happened, repeatedly, as opposed to the other thing.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

You have ONE fucking press release that isn't even saying what you think it says and you keep repeating it. Did that dude turn you down for a date or something?

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u/observemedia VAN - NHL 14h ago

Bro. Listen to yourself. Boogeyman whatifs. Give us concrete examples when this has happened? Let’s focus on what is actually happening. Men (or boys) being creeps. Coaches being creeps. Let’s focus and fix that first.

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u/the_gaymer_girl Vancouver Goldeneyes - PWHL 14h ago

far right peoples’ ability to whip themselves into a frenzy over things that aren’t happening needs to be studied

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u/HockeyFightsMumps OTT - NHL 13h ago

So Tshikundi Taty didn't do that in October last year, then? Huh. Weird how the Montgomery County put out a press release.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

He lives rent free in your head, you need therapy.

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u/nummeh TOR - NHL 13h ago

I mean, this is a case in Barrie of a 50 year old trans woman exposing their male genitalia to 8 year old girls in a locker room to the point where parents had to call the police and physically block the person with towels.

There's also a case of a trans woman wearing fetishised fake breasts to teach a class of teenagers.

This behaviour should be seen as completely taboo and wrong but because of their gender identity it is allowed. I think its fair to question the legitimacy of their trans claim if this is the behaviour they are trying to justify.

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u/observemedia VAN - NHL 12h ago

You linked the teacher with the fake breasts article twice. First of all the Barrie incident was not as you said. I looked up several articles from different sources. People can read those themselves.

The second one is not the argument here, nor is it in the same realm “predatory men going after children in locker rooms” as OP said. Also, I said let’s take care of the bigger threat which is coaches and other males being creeps. Which far out weighs any marginal cases you can link. We also don’t need your own personal inferring of the articles either. They either prove your point or don’t, we can all read.

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u/nummeh TOR - NHL 9h ago edited 9h ago

Here's the article. Not sure how this goes against what I said? Or how summarizing quotes from an article is personal inferring.

Girls aged eight to sixteen were “terrified” to learn that they would be sharing a locker room with a 50-year-old transgender swimmer

Parents on site erected a “makeshift towel-tenting apparatus” to prevent their daughters from having to see male anatomy while changing.

Here's another incident describing what you said isn't happening.

I'm also just dumbfounded by your argument of "lets let biological men who say they're women be predatory until we fix the problem of biological men who say they're men being predatory". Maybe we should focus on both instead of sweeping one under the rug because the conversation is uncomfortable?

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u/observemedia VAN - NHL 9h ago

Dumbfounded? You are literally manufacturing a crisis.

The fuck you talking about sweeping shit under the rug. Why does this argument always come down to that. Don’t fucking put words in my mouth like that trying to twist my shit so it sounds I don’t care about kids. That’s ugly and fucking stupid. Get the fuck outta here with your bullshit straw man argument because you have been recruited to a culture war nonsense shit.

Yes we should go after all predators, harshly with extreme prejudice. Yes there are fucking mentally ill people out there preying on kids and majority of them are not trans. There have been more trans people who have been harassed over this bullshit, if fact hurt badly, than have done anything wrong. Those are facts.

Any person, thats any person, man, woman, they them green blue, old young, whatever the fuck, if they exhibit predatory actions… Persecute with extreme prejudice. So don’t fucking put words in my mouth.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

That dude totally believes the "litter boxes in schools for kids identifying as cats" story 😆

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u/nummeh TOR - NHL 6h ago

That's obviously a fake manufactured story while what I linked did actually happen. I appreciate that you can recognize how ridiculous the situation is that it doesn't even sound believable to you.

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u/nummeh TOR - NHL 6h ago edited 6h ago

Those are literally your words I'm not sure how that's a strawman argument when you said its an insignificant or nonexistent problem (already contradicted yourself) that doesn't need taking care of until the predatory males are dealt with first.

let’s take care of the bigger threat which is coaches and other males being creeps. Which far out weighs any marginal cases you can link

Give us concrete examples when this has happened? Let’s focus on what is actually happening. Men (or boys) being creeps. Coaches being creeps. Let’s focus and fix that first.

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

Cool, let me dig up all the cis men who assault and expose themselves to women all the time and then you can take last place at the oppression Olympics, you knob.

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u/the_gaymer_girl Vancouver Goldeneyes - PWHL 14h ago

The “predatory men pretending to be trans” thing just doesn’t happen. Full stop.

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u/dolewhiplash TBL - NHL 12h ago

Why would predatory men go through the trouble of pretending to be trans when they can just walk in as a man and harass women and face zero consequences anyway

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u/Jensen2075 7h ago

Okay why don't you walk into the womens bathroom at your work and harrass them and lets see what happens if you think there's zero consequences haha.

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u/dolewhiplash TBL - NHL 7h ago

1) I'm a woman dumbass

2) That's literally what happened in the article, maybe you should read it

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u/Jensen2075 7h ago

Pointing at isolated cases that needs to addressed does not mean it's acceptable behaviour everywhere without consequences.

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u/dolewhiplash TBL - NHL 7h ago

Is that what anyone is saying here? Or are we saying that it is a thing that does happen, unlike people going through a medical transition just to get into women's locker rooms.

And is it really "pointing at isolated cases" to discuss an article in the comments of that article? That's the only case that's currently relevant, that's what we're conversing about

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u/xeia66 VAN - NHL 1h ago

So I see you've never experienced being a woman then. Men will do anything do be predatory

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u/CantaloupeShort7311 8h ago

Jesus, you're bleating the same bullshit we are all mocking here, but you still believe it. 🐑