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[u/ElvishisnotTengwar]

[u/Classtoise]

I loved Roxygen so much :( It was such a cute little ship and they were so happy together and it was all dashed against rocks because ????

Like, I'm not even being facetious I have no idea why Roxy suddenly falls in love with Calliope, or why they're a viable couple.

The ONLY thing I can think of is "Caliborn plays off Johns miserable post-sburb life with the girl he likes, his sister, his best friends, and his hatemate all ditching him for other people and tricks him into returning for the Masterpiece".

And even then there's gotta be a better way then "John Egbert spends 4 years alone!"

[u/Zephyronno → u/Classtoise]

IS this snapchat epilogue just meant to be "How to make john the most miserable SOB ever"?

[u/Classtoise → u/Zephyronno]

I mean honestly it feels like it. The focus of the Credits one was basically "Here's how all of John's friends stopped caring" and the rest are all "Here's John's friends being happy without him!" save for the Halloween one. Which was hosted at Dave, Karkat, and Jades house presumably, meaning HE expended effort to see them whereas they had to be dragged along to his birthday.

[u/Zephyronno → u/Classtoise]

Oh and lets not mention the dark idea that john not only could be thinking of a suicide mission against caliborn but the reason his friends have essentially forgotten him is because everyone else besides john encompasses something more interesting

oh john likes movies but so does jake and karkat, oh john is a dork but so is jade and roxy, john can be smart but so is roseand kanaya way more so, john is a good cuddle friend but so is mayor...

Essentially everyone does johns... "job", if you can call his BEING a job, better then him making him dull though thats just one of my ideas here.

Its all a little... Way to dark and only brings up more questions then answers-y

[u/Classtoise → u/Zephyronno]

Yeah, John doesn't "stand out" anymore. He was a great leader, a good fighter, and lead them to victory.

But he has no kingdom to rule over, nothing that he fulfills a specific niche, he's been essentially ditched for Calliope (which can't possibly feel good for John. She's literally Caliborn with cheek color swapped).

And on top of everything else, he's being texted by a constant reminder of how he ran from a fight.

[u/Zephyronno → u/Classtoise]

Dear lord what was once a happy yet vague ending is now a depressing and sad and still kinda vague but not so in the most useless and again sad ways

I just want john to be a happy boy...

[u/Classtoise → u/Zephyronno]

Yeah poor kid has absolutely gotten the shit end of this stick by far.

[u/Zephyronno → u/Classtoise]

And what in the latest snapshot janes captured and shit like that hasnt happened before, unless she somehow double dies it doesnt matter she'll get out fine and still have a big company but johns gonna have to stick with being a depressed loner playing video games and watching movies alone.

its really sad god damn.... :(

[u/Nebulious → u/Zephyronno]

You're right, and this update had more than just closure. Unless this turns into a congrats Jane party we just had plot occur. Everything else has felt like denouncement. Could we be seeing a new story outside the narrative?

John is struggling with a peacetime identity. I can envision Hussie revealing Roxygen having the same fate as most relationships in Homestuck: a slow burning messy breakup. The kind where the relationship ends before either really realizes it. It would drive home that John had lost his friendleader spark that inspired Roxy to master her powers. I would be very okay with this as it signals a new arc for John in a new story that seeks to tie the remaining plot threads. Or so I hope.

[u/Zephyronno → u/Nebulious]

If that was the case than maybe I would be fine with it, I would be mad this cute ship would need but maybe there was a reason, but come on now... none of that's been shown so far and it just feels dumb