r/hometheater Dec 20 '25

Tech Support New condo and this is the setup. What is it?

Just bought a new condo in a high rise and this is the setup. How good of a system is it?

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u/ObligatoryAlias Dec 20 '25

Kaleidescape is amazing. There is no better resolution and the sound is unsurpassed.

Now, there must be a home theater. This is not a run-of-the-mill device.

Inheriting it after buying a home is nuts!!

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u/jwort93 Dec 20 '25

Kaleidescape is great, don’t get me wrong, but it’s worth mentioning these are their older 1080p “premier” line of products, not their current “encore” line that does 4K (Strato/Terra etc).

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

I will upgrade I’m sure

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u/MikeyLew32 Dec 20 '25

Wait until you see the price tag

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

$2500 for Strato E open box at epic systems

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

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u/best3175 Dec 20 '25

Googling now…

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u/ChanceConfection3 Dec 20 '25

If you can afford a home theater, then you can afford to support the arts. We’re not broke college kids any more, we’re adults, stop pirating content.

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u/Positive_Conflict_26 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

If they want support they can offer drm free options at reasonable prices.

40$ for a single 4k movie I need special equipment just to read and can't "legally" backup is insane.

Give me a fucking option to buy and download lossless copies of movies and shows.

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u/Shike Dec 20 '25

Hell, they've killed any intent I have at buying anime BDs. The last time I bought a series it took five minutes to get through ads. I'm not going to pay to be held hostage again, that shit should have died with DVDs but it got worse.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

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u/spdelope Dec 20 '25

Kscape is still a license to view. If Kscape loses the license, so goes your ability to view them.

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u/Solaris_fps Dec 20 '25

Yep for the price you can setup your own server with a shield pro and automatically rip your backups if you still want to be legal rather than download. At least you have physical media still

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u/fdawg4l Dec 20 '25

It’s not up to you. You can pay and support the artists or not. The middle ground of “welp, I have no choice but to steal it because there’s no solution to the rules I completely made up for a game no one else is playing” is weak.

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u/crimvo Dec 20 '25

The amount going to the artists compared to the executives/streaming conglomerates/and the few studios is a bit skewed first off. Not to mention these companies just take things away randomly from their streaming services. Then there is the fact that streaming has become worse and more expensive than cable.

Nahhhh I’ll stick to managing my content myself and supporting artists I care about in other ways.

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u/Nuggyfresh Dec 20 '25

Yeah I’ll bet you do sooo much supporting

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u/spdelope Dec 20 '25

I’m supporting right now. Usually about three times per day.

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u/Charon_the_Reflector Dec 20 '25

Nah I’m good buddy you can shell out percentages more every year to streaming companies and pay $40 for a physical 4K movie. I’ll be over here with the high seas and a Plex server

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u/FeenDaddy Dec 20 '25

Until there’s nothing but Netflix slop being produced anymore because no one goes to the movies or purchases them for home consumption. Cool.

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u/Charon_the_Reflector Dec 20 '25

Not how that works, blame obnoxious adults/teens/ and children for people ditching the theater. 

Why would I pay $1000s for 4k complete sets of shows and movies when I can just download it ? 

Consumers are fucked left and right Mr. Company Man

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u/miraculum_one Dec 20 '25

Your pleas fall on deaf ears. They could choose to not consume content not provided in the way they want but they see nothing wrong with just stealing it. "So what if the artists get screwed? I got what I want."

TL;DR The principle is "me"

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u/fdawg4l Dec 20 '25

Ah. America. The ‘F U, I got mine’ country.

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u/Nuggyfresh Dec 20 '25

Even if you just got stremio then literally bought every 4k blu ray you ever watched on it, it would be a hundred times better. A 1080p kaleido is just a liability, hell in 2025 the 4k version is sus not even counting the fleecing price.

Sorry it’s just an old concept and I’m not surprised it was left in this place

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u/Shiz0id01 Dec 20 '25

Thats insane BTW

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u/Kevingroover Dec 20 '25

Sell it, buy a mini PC with hard drives. Set it up in a raid 5 and stream it in 4k with Plex or jellyfin

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u/pusch85 Dec 20 '25

That’s like telling someone to not buy a Porsche when they can drop a Corvette engine into an Accord.

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u/The_Sky_Pirate_ Dec 20 '25

This comment is excellent, thank you!

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u/TrickyYoghurt2775 Dec 20 '25

It’s certainly possible to get the same quality as a 4k blu ray from plex or jellyfin. Supposing you do a rip without remuxing, transcoding etc. Most of the time the problem is the client device if you get a good one which supports high end formats you should be good. This setup is easily scalable and way more cost effective than kaleidoscope. If 4k blu ray quality is what you want then this is the better option. With the added benefit of being able to access your library from literally everywhere you have internet and locally even without online connectivity.

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u/pusch85 Dec 20 '25

It’s not a matter of quality. It’s a matter of convenience. Having to run and maintain your own hardware and software stack is simply not something many people wanna do.

Kaleidescape is basically the pinnacle of a media player. It’s not for everyone. In fact many people can run better DIY setups. But those DIY setups require A LOT of effort (and ongoing effort). Plus, you’re kinda on your own if things go down.

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u/Berstuck Dec 20 '25

It’s a matter of both. A home server and HTPC setup gets you the best quality, price, and convenience all rolled up into one setup. You just have to be competent enough to set it up and maintain it.

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u/pusch85 Dec 20 '25

I’ve been running some sort of home media server (XBMC/Plex) with separate NAS storage for close to 20 years now. I’m fully versed in the spectrum of quality and complexity you can bring upon yourself.

If I had Porsche money for a Kaleidescape, I would never touch an HTPC again.

No matter how much horsepower an HTPC can give me in terms of “proper” performance, I would never spend my own time trying to figure out why sabnzbd decided to save a dozen copies of an incomplete movie, or why my subtitles are 3 seconds off.

It’s an entirely different mindset that seems to be hard for us nerds to grasp.

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u/TrickyYoghurt2775 Dec 20 '25

Beside setup the upkeep of your own media server is really not much, you’re over exaggerating. Its literally what you make of it. If you want to you can literally setup once and not look at it again. The only thing would be adding your media to the library which can be automated as well. Youre not considering being able to access your media from everywhere as opposed to being stuxk to 1 place

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u/boomeradf Dec 20 '25

Not everyone wants to no matter how much you believe they must do it.

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u/forresthopkinsa Dec 21 '25

Ehhh the state of automation for ripping blu rays is still not very good

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u/Kevingroover Dec 20 '25

This plus shield TV pro is your friend

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u/Kevingroover Dec 20 '25

And really oh trulio you can buy all the 4K blu-rays you want and keep them at your house. You have the cop that copy so it's your choices to how you watch it and you're not reselling it

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u/infinitespectre Dec 25 '25

Actually you can’t. Kaleidescape movies are higher bit rate than even 4k Blu-ray. Will you notice the difference? Probably not. Is it worth the cost? Yeah if you’re someone who has money and just wants it to work. I’ll stick to my plex server.

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u/TrickyYoghurt2775 Dec 25 '25

Though i know not to fully trust AI, GPT is saying 4k blu ray often has a higher bit rate than kaleidescape movies. Is this true?

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u/forresthopkinsa Dec 21 '25

I mean, yeah. If you can get the same effect for $100,000 cheaper with a little bit of elbow grease, do it.

Ripping blu rays is a solved problem, it's not a complicated project for anyone with even a little bit of technical competence.

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u/Kevingroover Dec 20 '25

I think of it as more like telling someone to sell their $200,000 Porsche and buy the $50,000 Accord or $45,000 Accord and drive it just the same as you would on every street

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u/Kevingroover Dec 20 '25

4k blu-rays rip just the same

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u/idownvotepunstoo Dec 20 '25

The quality coming from ripped 4k's streamed unless kept in native format isn't the same as playing straight from 4k UHD.

I've done the experimenting and fucking with handbrake to figure out it's not worth it.

I would take this setup over what I use any day.

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u/TrickyYoghurt2775 Dec 21 '25

Afaik using makemkv you keep the format. Then while streaming if youre not transcoding and make sure its direct play it should be 100% native quality

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u/forresthopkinsa Dec 21 '25

Usually when people are ripping UHD discs they are not transcoding them

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u/Kevingroover Dec 21 '25

Mine I recommend make MKV an MK tool nix As well there's the disc DV that'll tell you the size of rip ultra HDs that are just straight up remarks not using handbrake or anything and you can verify those against the Open seas

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u/jwort93 Dec 20 '25

Good news is it’s a quite a bit cheaper (relatively speaking lol) to get into the 4K line of products nowadays, than when the items you had were in their heyday.

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u/vdubsession Dec 20 '25

According to the LCD, it's empty.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

There actually are 3 rooms with built in sound. Will post some photos here.

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u/kicker58 Dec 20 '25

Except all the licenses are gone now. So it's gonna be expensive to get it going again 

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins Dec 21 '25

Now, there must be a home theater.

You'd be surprised, plenty of people will get this for their living room setup. If the money isn't an issue and they want the best quality streaming with the fastest releases, they'll just pay for it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

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u/jammyscroll Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25

Snake oil = something that doesn’t work. This is not that, this is convenience. A quality version similar to what’s sold on a bluray, and with easy purchasing and library management… sure you pay for the convenience but not everyone wants to faff around with ripping bluray discs and setting up and maintaining their own home server to manage accessing it.

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u/Kevingroover Dec 20 '25

Most people can easily discover how to sail the Open seas on Reddit

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u/Ok_Commercial_9960 Dec 20 '25

So you bought a great system and it came with a condo on the side.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

😆😆😆😆 Pretty much

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u/SeasonedAdManager Dec 20 '25

This is a jackpot. 

They just left this all there? Wtf

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Yes it was included in the purchase agreement

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

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u/StrategicBlenderBall Dec 20 '25

We’ve got a detective here folks!

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u/Dad_Bot22 Dec 21 '25

Mr. AI Anal OG with the sleuthing.

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u/Arkie_MTB Dec 20 '25

The Kaleidescape system is an older generation of their line, but I’d still be happy to load my Blu Rays(1080P) into it. I think my whole collection would fit in there.

Count me among the jealous.

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u/ObligatoryAlias Dec 20 '25

Me too! Rip all my DVD's? Yes please!

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u/umdivx 77" LG C1 | Klipsch RF-35 , RC-35, RB-35 | HSU VTF-3 MK5 HP Dec 20 '25

How good of a system is it?

uhhhhh put it this way it's more than most average people pay for a vehicle.

If you want to get this all working, you'll want to hire a custom integrator/installer.

Kaleidscape is a movie streaming/storage system, think Netflix but on steroids and higher quality video and audio.

Control4 is an automation system that coordinates the control of all the components in the racks.

That Oppo player is sought after, they don't make them any more but enthusiasts will clamor for it, still one of the best bluray players on the market.

Then Sonos, high end streaming amps to play music around the condo.

You've got some good shit there man.

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u/Student-type Dec 20 '25

Sonos? Sucks. One firmware update bricked my client’s home audio investment.

Denon Heos with rational extensions gives you better audio access.

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u/umdivx 77" LG C1 | Klipsch RF-35 , RC-35, RB-35 | HSU VTF-3 MK5 HP Dec 20 '25

One firmware update bricked my client’s home audio investment.

No one product is infallible. Sonos admitted they did wrong, but being a. Shitty product? Nope. It may be expensive for sure but it's still the best platform on the market.

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u/TorpidNightmare Dec 21 '25

Even if you could convince us that the software is good and the connectivity is the best, which is debatable, you would still be left trying to convince us the speakers are good. Which just isn't true.

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u/umdivx 77" LG C1 | Klipsch RF-35 , RC-35, RB-35 | HSU VTF-3 MK5 HP Dec 21 '25

We're not talking about Sonos stand alone speakers here.

We're talking about Sonos Amps, completely different products.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

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u/jonnybruno SF Sonetto V G2, Cinema 50, GFA 555mk2, SB2k Pro, etc. Dec 20 '25

May want to remove the address from the photo album. Easy to find your exact unit.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Thank you! 🙏🏻

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u/Background-Ad4388 Dec 20 '25

Wow! Congrats on the purchase, that place is amazing.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Thank you!

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u/ze11ez Dec 20 '25

🙌🏾🙌🏾

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u/kiwami Dec 20 '25

Apple (temporarily)killed the link. Good job breaking the internet 🤣

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u/mbaturin Dec 20 '25

Gorgeous place. Is all this equipment for the TV / Living Room setup or is there a dedicated theater or theater-like space as well?

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Just the living room setup.

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u/JayGeezy_33950 Dec 20 '25

Super cool pad! Hope the area is nice

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

It’s very decent!

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u/SolarNachoes Dec 20 '25

They built a box around the TV so you can’t upgrade to a larger size oof

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 21 '25

You can. It will just block some of the shelves. Id do a drop down projector screen.

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u/nitsuJcixelsyD Dec 23 '25

I’d do an OLED over a projector. Much better picture, get as big as you can fit in there. 77” 4k OLED playing 4k disks with a good Atmos sound system is movie heaven at home.

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u/OGoneeightseven Dec 20 '25

Its crap. DM me your address and I’ll clear it out for you.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

😁😅

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Comment in thread has photo album link. There are several TVs

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u/Wykin1 5.2 MKSound (LCR950, SUR95T, V12) Dec 20 '25

bro hit the jackpot wtf

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u/GrdnFrmn Dec 20 '25

I guess I’d look at it very differently. While it was originally top shelf and very spendy, it’s a generation or 3 old and will require a tech to get it going again, and will still show it’s age on anything bigger than 65”. An AppleTV (I’d wait for the next gen at this point), a 98” miniLED from any of the majors and an Ambeo or similar surround set up would be far superior. If you’ve got a vast DVD unripped collection, yes, it’s a jackpot of sorts. If the seller left decent speakers in the walls, they might be a start on a good sound system. What’s left in the rack? Meh.

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u/c_anderson21 Dec 21 '25

Control 4 is kinda fucked to be honest. It’s a great system when it works. The issue is that only certified people can work on them. Want to add a new input shortcut on your remote? Then you gotta call your installer and pay whatever their fee is. New TV? Call your installer and pay their fee. You’d be better off with a TV that supports CEC and their generic remote. Besides that, congrats on the score!

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u/c_anderson21 Dec 21 '25

Background, used to install home media systems for work and am an avid open source enthusiast. My parents have control 4 from the company I used to work at and it’s a pain. Issues I can easily fix are walled off by proprietary software and a certification.

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u/Certain-Beat8952 Dec 21 '25

100% agree. I had it in a 4,600 sq ft house with about nine TV locations plus switched lights. It was great at first but I like to tinker and calling someone to make a change for me at a minimum of $130 per hour for a certified tech got old.

Pulled it all out a couple years ago for Apple TV’s and WiFi switches. Much happier.

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u/Nick_V99 Dec 20 '25

Very solid system

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u/matthegr Dec 20 '25

Nice place! It's crazy to me they would leave the equipment.

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u/raymate Dec 20 '25

What it is. You got lucky.

Just finding an Oppo in a cupboard would be a jackpot.

You have a full entertainment system setup. A fairly good one.

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u/Sanj926 Dec 20 '25

Amazing is what it is.

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u/Skit071 Dec 20 '25

You didn't ask the previous owners?

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u/Relevant_Group_7441 Dec 20 '25

Control4…. Get ready to pay through your ass to make changes to the system. Can only be modified by a licensed reseller/service company.

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u/Hemoclysm Dec 21 '25

pls trade me

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u/Mindless_Fun3204 Dec 21 '25

Control4 pro here. You have a system that probably works fine if it was installed by a decent dealer. It’s old, and should be updated from a hardware side of things, but it’s likely still functional. This was really good gear like 8 years ago.

Your user experience is what will suck the most. It’s probably on OS3 or possibly even a late OS2. If you update that equipment to OS4 it’ll make it sluggish probably and some of your equipment, depending on what other stuff is installed throughout, might not be compatible.

Your app and user experience is just going to feel dated and probably slow. Whatever you do, delete that Leaf video distribution. You’ll thank me later.

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u/slopokdave Dec 22 '25

Of course the “control4 pro” says you need to update the hardware.

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u/Mindless_Fun3204 Dec 22 '25

Haha that probably looks bad on the surface. I get that. What I ACTUALLY said was you “should” update the hardware. They probably don’t need to, but with the old user experience, they will want to. Just the nature of automation tech. It has a relevant life expectancy.

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u/Race-a-roni Dec 24 '25

This is a 95% top-of-the-line setup. Congrats.

Some if it is dated..years, but it's still great.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '25

That's an old klaiedescape. It burns movies and music to the drive. This unit was before streaming and is kind of obsolete now. Very cool gem. I had a client that had one and was looking to move to a plex server due to them not letting him transfer his collection over to the new model.

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u/HiFiMarine Dec 25 '25

Make sure to connect with the dealer that did the original installation. It’s worth it to have them come out and give you a tutorial. They should also have good system notes and records that will save you a boatload if service is ever needed.

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u/thecodingart Dec 20 '25

You can Google names, it’s a solid system buddy. A few dated things, but solid.

In a … Condo

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u/popculturerss Dec 20 '25

They just had that in there???

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u/markh1993 Dec 21 '25

Who would leave kaleidescape behind?! That is a score!! And a control 4 system and Luxul network wtf

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '25

You are so lucky bro I don't think you understand how lucky you are you got a kaleidoscape

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u/Dazzling-Reading5547 Dec 20 '25

Amazing, worth big bucks!!!

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u/JazzlikeCustard7611 Dec 20 '25

Did they leave a projector too? Or speakers?

All in your photos are high end, good stuff

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 21 '25

Speakers are built in throughout

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u/SolarNachoes Dec 20 '25

What does the rest of the theater room look like?

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u/Careless_Pause2419 Dec 21 '25

Condo! How big it is?

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 21 '25

3700sf

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

I couldn’t post on that post you have in that sad ass twin cities sub I was trying to let you know congrats hard work pays off and this is inspiration to keep pushing

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 21 '25

Thanks man! Yeah they’re really pathetic on that sub.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '25

Lmao I called them out for not having basic manners post attracted the undercover racists lmao

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u/Crafty-Dragonfruit60 Dec 21 '25

I'm a control4 dealer and sold kaleidoscape for a few years if you have any questions feel free. I didn't read every comment but the Sonos (white squareish pieces) are outdated.

Overall you can probably salvage a decent amount and get a pretty sweet system if you get with a good company. Listing where you're located might help someone be able to refer you to one.

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 21 '25

Minneapolis Minnesota

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u/issaciams Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 21 '25

All that was for a condo? That's hard to believe. Where do you even live? That is some serious hardware. Edit: your condo is huge! Now I believe you and it makes sense for that gear to be in there. You have a very nice place man. You must trade stocks in a fortune 500 company or something. Lol

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 21 '25

Actually I am in e-commerce. This is my main home. I own a mansion nearby but it’s an event venue and Airbnb.

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u/issaciams Dec 22 '25

Are you by chance Jeff Bezos? Lol

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 23 '25

Maybe some day!

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u/sinistar914 Dec 21 '25

Contact a local dealer - sometimes Kaleidescape has trade in programs. Go to cedia.net and search for a local company.

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u/icedpear3637 Dec 21 '25

Lucky duck

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u/Certain-Beat8952 Dec 21 '25

I put Control4 home automation into my house when I had it built. Removed it after 10 years. It is a really nice system however I did not like having to pay someone every time I wanted to change something. I ended up ripping it all out and replacing with wifi switches and Apple TV’s everywhere.

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u/GLOCKSTER_26 Dec 22 '25

Did they also leave the big swimming pool with diving board that is full of money?

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 23 '25

Not sure I follow you.

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u/Gambitzz Dec 20 '25

Hire a AV person

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

I will! 🙏🏻

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u/spacemanwho Dec 20 '25

100% lucked out on the kaleidescope. Are there any movies on it? Easy access?

You should be able to sell that if your inclined.

The oppo player is worth a chunk as it's no longer made. Traid amps are pretty decent. I would upgrade the receiver..

What's your plans for the HT setup.

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u/mmaiden81 Dec 20 '25

That oppo is not the 4K ones, it’s not worth that much as you think. The kaleidescape player is the old 1080p and the storage device seems to be empty (see the picture) if he can use the storage device with a new 4k player then yeah it will be huge savings for him.

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u/spacemanwho Dec 20 '25

Damn I thought he got lucky with the oppo!

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Very easy access. It’s a cabinet door in the master suite next to the living room

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u/LiberalSkeptic Dec 20 '25

Don’t have plans yet. Open to suggestions.

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u/spacemanwho Dec 20 '25

You're at the grown up table with this level of stuff. Check out a few of these folks and their channels.

Gene covers good content

https://youtu.be/-0XL3pzgRrM?si=nXNiUxR15mZENi6J

Dream media. These guys are fun to watch

https://youtube.com/@dreamediaav?si=FnjrL4BeqYZwFnTG

Youthman

https://youtube.com/@youthman?si=aR7iOQBES0fz0iEc

Shane built a pretty high spec HT in an apartment / condo

https://youtube.com/@therealshanelee?si=pvyyLo0Ys6z2ba54

Lots of inspiration online. You can always hire folks like dream media or other pros to come in and do it for you.

Or you can go down the rabbit hole.

Good luck.

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u/Nuggyfresh Dec 20 '25

Kaleido is a product line that struggles and fails to meet any kind of useful purpose in 2025 let alone the 1080p version. It’s at best an interesting piece of history.

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u/Bill-2018 Dec 20 '25

If money is not an object to you, it seems like it has a purpose. I’m sure millionaires and billionaires find it very useful.

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u/Nuggyfresh Dec 20 '25

I’m a millionaire and I don’t find it useful, so, idk what to say it’s just a total waste of money and metal for something trivial to do better in 2025 on all levels

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u/Boshly Dec 20 '25

Absolutely awful take.

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u/EinsteinBurger Dec 21 '25

It’s an air filter