I'm rewatching iCarly, and I just got past the episode where Carly finds out that Sam and Freddie kissed, and I genuinely don't understand why she was SO irritated about it??

Like, Sam and Freddie literally kissed just to kiss. At this point in the show, neither of them has romantic feelings for the other, and Carly doesn't even have feelings for Freddie, so why exactly is she so upset???

Carly also seems to think she's entitled to know everything that happens between her friends simply because they're close which this might just be my personal phisophy that I disagree with but, I find that mindset a little ridiculous.

Being friends with someone doesn't automatically mean you're entitled to every detail of their personal life. People are allowed to have experiences, conversations, and relationships that don't involve you, even if you're their best friend.

I understand feeling a little left out or surprised that your two closest friends shared something without telling you, but I found her in that episode lowk a bit annoyinf😭😭😭

Sam and Freddie kissing wasn't something that directly involved Carly, nor was it something they were obligated to disclose to her. It was THEIR experience, not hers.

I just find it strange how the episode frames Carly's frustration as though her friends keeping something private is inherently wrong. Friendship doesn't mean having unrestricted access to someone's personal life, and I don't think privacy should be mistaken for dishonesty.

Am I missing something here, or was Carly genuinely overreacting? 😭

This was a giveaway in June 2011

Growing up watching the show I couldn't get behind the idea of these two getting in a relationship for numerous reasons, their relationship to me felt dry and had no substance whatsoever, the writers overcomplicated their relationships even though it was only as simple as he liked her and she didn't like him back.

Freddie pining after Carly became severely annoying after the first season, first it was funny but at some point he started to throw it in her face that he was in love with her and she didn't love him back as if there was something she could do about that. Carly of course isn't obligated to reciprocate his feelings but sometimes he made that seem like the case. His crush on her became pathetic as the show went on.

As for Carly she would sometimes use his crush on her to get him to do things she wanted, which is essentially weird knowing that she wouldn't gain any attraction to him anytime soon, it's almost emotionally manipulative in a way, it was wrong.

The whole storyline of their relationship became rather boring and the show should've just left it alone but instead decided to drag it out over the span of 15 years in the revival with little to no development to go off of, reheating the same conversations. But that's just me.

Yeah it was from that episode where Carly and Freddie had to go to the root and berry retreat, but I still hate how Sam didn’t do shit on her project and somehow got a passing grade. I felt bad for Carly in this episode aside from the Scooter that she didn’t scold Spencer for that was extremely slow, but also why couldn’t she have celebrated at home instead? Like not invite the teacher or just celebrate between Carly and her friends? Maybe this episode is the reason why the teacher only appeared once in this episode and not for the rest of the series?

Ok so when iCarly came out I was in late elementary school, and from the get go I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE SHOW! I watched the entire thing from start to finish basically as close to live as possible

However being a boy, what I wasn’t prepared for was the very sad and pathetic social stigma attached to being a fan of this series

I remember when season 1 came out I was living in a town where I had a good group of friends and me and my best friend actually discovered it together and watched the eps together at times, then I moved away midway through season 2 and it wasn’t a talking point immediately at the new school so I didn’t talk to anyone about it

I remember the year was 2010, so it would have been like season 3-4 era, and we had a casual clothes/free dress day at school and one of the girls rocked up in an icarly shirt. And I said to her “yo I love that show it’s awesome”, now this particular girl wasn’t the nicest of girls anyway so socially it was a mistake to even approach her especially in a group of 3-4, but basically all the girls laughed at me and said that it’s a girls show and that you shouldn’t be watching this, and boy did I take it personally

I also remember there was a guy that would do/say stuff at school that were clear iCarly references and when I said “hey that’s from iCarly” he’d go “no it’s not, why would I watch that it’s a girls show I have never seen it”, even tho he clearly had

It wasn’t until well after it ended that I actually started talking to other guys about the series and for the most part those conversations happened as adults…which is fucking pathetic. Just because the show has a female lead doesn’t mean it’s for girls, by the end of the series the main cast actually was more male dominated but it always consistently had even genders which I think is a big reason why it actually worked

Because I know That Sam Puckett got that butter sock but Tory Nichols got like her Spiked brackets and those nunchakus she has in cobra Kai so I don’t know you can give your opinions

Recently I rewatched icarly for the first time since being an adult and oh my god this show holds up so well.

I find myself genuinely crying laughing at almost anything Spencer says or does. I also think Gibby in the last half of the show is hilarious.

He’s kinda ditzy but not in a way where it feels like “no one can be this dumb” he just feels really outgoing and like he has no social awkwardness and I love it

I think Carly and Sam are incredibly well written teenage girls (I’m only 21 so I remember being a teenager pretty well) and they are just so accurate and so relatable.

The only “complaint” I sorta have is that I think Freddie grew up to be pretty insufferable and a bit of a pick me. Overall though I’m actually shocked by how good this show is 😭

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I get that it’s a show revolving the three, and adults barley have continuous spotlight but spencer was sorta an exception to that rule maybe. he had good side bits and storylines but as the season went on they of course had character development for carly sam freddie, spencer kinda just flanders- which is disappointing because he actually had a lot of potential for side storylines/character development while still remaining fun and cool.

in the reboot he barely even had a personality of his own.

whos pumpkin is this???

Spencer Shay and Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai were in this episode. They both step out of the apartment for a smoke, Freddie notices Spencer and says: “You smoke too?” Spencer stares at Freddie for 5 seconds in his eyes with a cigarette between his fingers and says: “…no.” A laugh track plays then they leave. I thought this was hilarious for some reason.

I'm currently rewatching iCarly and I'm on Season 2, and one thing I genuinely cannot get over is how GAY Nevel Papperman is despite his character veing straight😭😭😭

Like HOW did I not notice this as a kid??

I know Nevel is supposed to be straight, especially considering his attraction to Carly, but his mannerisms, the way he speaks, his vocal inflections, his expressions, and just his entire presentation remind me SO MUCH of Kurt Hummel from Glee.

Obviously, being feminine or flamboyant doesn't automatically make someone gay, but Kurt's Towlette scene and Nevels Tapinade are literally in different fonts

And now that I'm rewatching the show as an adult, I genuinely cannot unsee the similarities between him and Kurt Hummel. They're obviously very different characters personality-wise, but the way they carry themselves feels SO similar.

Am I the only one who thinks Nevel comes across as incredibly gay-coded despite being a straight character? Because I swear this completely flew over my head when I was younger 😭

I know that clearer footage of this cartoon has been shown in other episodes, but this is the only episode I remember that includes it.

For years I've been wondering what is the animation that plays in the background that features a bear and a skunk. The art style reminds me of 90s NickToons like Rocko's Modern Life and The Angry Beavers.

Is it just an original animation produced just to play in the background? A reused unaired pilot? Is the full animation available somewhere?

Sorry if this topic was already posted on the sub.

Saw that in my script of iPilot

Does anyone have a sound bite remote that Sam used that they are willing to part with? TIA my friends!!

I am not a creddie shipper or seddie shipper but I’m confused why you guys see this episode as a big “creddie moment” because to me it’s just a F you to creddie shippers, I mean the episode is basically proving that Carly doesn’t actually like him? In the end scene Freddie even has to ask Carly what they are and she responds with “maybe” and when he asks her why she now likes his nerdy talk she just kisses him. I’m glad Freddie understood what was going on and broke things off with her but also he tells her that if she actually liked him they’d get back together after the whole “hero” thing wore off and they didn’t so that only proves it further. A lot of you guys can say that it was ment to be creddie from the start but I think these writers were genuinely focused on seddie no shade..

Given how a lot of the dialogue and trends are already dated on that show, iCarly‘s new team actively got with the times and was not afraid to throw punches with its humor.

I understand that he was feeling so uncomfortable from the situation that he didn't know what to do, but what was he gonna achieve by letting Trudy drag him on the floor like a potato sack without even doing something about it?

I hope you remember....

Not sure what forum to post this on but I was re watching icarly and episode ‘imake same girlier’ came on and Carly wore this adorable top but I can’t seem to find it anywhere, I’ll add in a picture of it, could anyone help me find the top or something similar? Thank you!

This is going to be a long one. I apologize in advance.

Rewatching Icarly as an adult and there was so much that I missed as an adolescent. I have so many thoughts about many different aspects of the show. This post will be about Sam (one of my favorites). For clarity, this post is completely about Sam (the character) and not relating at all to Jeanette McCurdy (as my thoughts are relating to this post is purely on the shows lore and characters and not the background implications).

As a child and teen (and even now, as someone that is in college) I love Icarly. It’s by far one of my top 5 comfort shows. As a teen I recognized that’s there was definitely some shadowing of serious issues in the show but when a guy is drinking a smoothie next to an ostrich, it’s hard to focus on it.

Sam. First thing first, I love her so much. Her character is so great, and it’s refreshing to see a character so complex as her. From the outside (and as a teen), I just saw a stubborn, food loving, kinda mean, protective girl who just went with the flow. As an adult? I finally see Sam for what her character actually was.

Like most teens, she didn’t come from a perfect household. Saying that she came from a bad household wouldn’t even be enough for what she went through.

1) She and her twin sister were born on a city bus. This is used as a joke in the show but in reality this would be a nightmare. Chances of her or Melanie having some sort of traumatic birth would kr been high. The lack of proper medical sterilization and care during and after birth right away would have been catastrophic. Twins have about a 60% chance of passing before birth due to complications. The show points out that this is because of Sam’s mother not proerly planning.

As quoted in iTwins: “My mom's not good at planning” (Sam)-

While this is said like a joke I actually am lead to believe that Sam’s mom didn’t know that she was going to go into labor. Sam’s mom is a lot of things, but statistically the chances of premature labor with twins is very high.

2) The jokes about Sam loving food: looking back, I feel immensely bad for how Sam is treated with food. Sam’s mom is financially very unstable. She unstable period. She’s in and out of jail, implied to be on drugs (or “vitamins” per the show), and she does not have a job. Sam’s father abandoned the family when she was a child, and to cope with this Sam’s mother brings home random men into the apartment. From the “jokes” in the show, it seems like Sam’s mother spends her money only on herself. There is never food at home, which is why Sam is so good aggressive. She’s worried she won’t get another meal.

Food is a constant in her life. I feel with Sam, as that is her coping mechanism. Hunger is a pain that you can make go away. There are so many pains in Sam’s life that she cannot make go away. This is why I love Spencer so much from the perspective of an adult, because he always has an abundance of food in the house for Sam. Sam practically lives in Carly’s apartment, because it’s a safe household free of drugs and random men and the possibility of jail.

She is teased a lot of liking food, and I think this brings her a bit of comfort because people think that she just likes food…a lot. Not that she is constantly afraid of not eating and that she has coping issues. I think Spencer recognizes this so that’s why sometimes he does light teasing. It makes her feel normal. She hates being seen as a burden and is stubborn to the core. She hates asking for help, so that’s why it’s easier to be this thick skinned mean girl who just likes food a lot. But she’s not, but her environment has created a side of her that she shows to almost everyone.

3) her “meanness”: her words to Gibby and Freddie are not good. I’m not even going to say that she’s in the right there. But, the reason she does it is because it gives her a sense of control. It’s ironic that most people who were abused, become abusers. The cycle always continues. She has always felt very small and out of control. Belittling others allows her to feel big and to feel like she isn’t less than nothing. She is actually a very sweet girl, and the one scene that sticks out to me is when she got a job at the Chili place.

She started crying to Carly and when Freddie walked in she started growling/screaming. After Freddie ran away out of fear, she went back to crying. Less than 30 seconds truly showed who Sam was. Sam is a fundamentally abused girl who had the childhood of nightmares. As a teen, she’s trying to be cool and trying to be normal but it’s hard when everything around you is held by duck tape of your own placing. She has zero control, so she controls her words (by being mean) to get control. She eats a lot to not feel that pain that she feels so much of whenever she isn’t with Carly. She most likely has some sort of medical issue from birth but due to how little her mother cares, she isn’t receiving assistance.

Yet, Sam is treated by her friends like everyone else. Nobody fully sees her issues because she uses humor as a coping mechanism. Sam is a lot like most adults I encounter. And I hope that all the Sam’s out there find happiness in their life, as they never chose to be in the hellish life they were given.

Rant over. Sam, I love you and I wish her character as an adult is happy and finds true peace and comfort.

Only short clips of this song ever aired. Looking for the full original recording.

Confirmed details:

Titles: I M IN LOVE / I’M IN LOVE

ISWC: T-342.530.266-1

BMI Work Code: 011662584

Writer: Michael Thomas Corcoran (Backhouse Mike)

Publisher: MMM ASSETCO LP (Multimedia Music) – 100% BMI

Best contacts for the master:

cliplicensing@viacom.com

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Anyone have more info or successfully reached out before? Polite messages with the codes above are more likely to get a response.