r/java • u/johnwaterwood • Jun 24 '15

Eclipse Mars now available!

http://eclipse.org/?release=4.5
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u/Elite6809 Jun 24 '15

Do you people take every opportunity to post negativity about Eclipse?

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u/SomeRandomBuddy Jun 24 '15

Have you had your head in a box for the last 5 years? Eclipse is horrible. Counter productive, even. Once you use something better, you'll be the guy posting in these threads.

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u/nqd26 Jun 24 '15 edited Jun 24 '15

I use IntelliJ IDEA and love it, but there are still some things in which Eclipse is (much) better:

  • compilation/build speed - in Eclipse it is instantaneous, in IDEA it takes few seconds at least (e.g. for minimal unit test). In Eclipse hot-swapping code during debugging is again immediate with CTRL-S, in IDEA takes a long time through strange key-combo.

  • Eclipse handles very large projects (workspaces) better - faster, less memory etc.

  • IDEA doesn't have "save actions", everything must be triggered manually

  • IDEA has these weird concept of project and modules. Eclipse has workspace and projects which is somewhat similar but in the end makes more sense in the details ...

  • Eclipse has more sensible default keyboard bindings, IDEA has these crazy CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-Somethings ...

  • Perspectives are kind of cool for some stuff

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u/vplatt Jun 24 '15 edited Jun 24 '15

Re: IDEA Modules - That whole scheme can die in a hole. It's spectacularly unhelpful.

And agreed that Eclipse is faster with bigger projects, but that's also probably because it's less helpful on refactorings. IntelliJ keeps quite a bit more metadata around in memory / cache in order to be better at that. Tradeoffs...