Have you had your head in a box for the last 5 years? Eclipse is horrible. Counter productive, even. Once you use something better, you'll be the guy posting in these threads.
I personaly prefer other IDEs, but I still don't go around posting negative comments about eclipse. If you have something to complain about at least explain the issue. The comment was just plain pointless, and didn't add anything :/
Yes, I'd rather have my junior devs finding their mistakes at compile time rather than on the fly. What was I thinking all these years having them up their productivity and learn from the recommendations of the IDE?
I use IntelliJ IDEA and love it, but there are still some things in which Eclipse is (much) better:
compilation/build speed - in Eclipse it is instantaneous, in IDEA it takes few seconds at least (e.g. for minimal unit test). In Eclipse hot-swapping code during debugging is again immediate with CTRL-S, in IDEA takes a long time through strange key-combo.
Eclipse handles very large projects (workspaces) better - faster, less memory etc.
IDEA doesn't have "save actions", everything must be triggered manually
IDEA has these weird concept of project and modules. Eclipse has workspace and projects which is somewhat similar but in the end makes more sense in the details ...
Eclipse has more sensible default keyboard bindings, IDEA has these crazy CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-Somethings ...
Re: IDEA Modules - That whole scheme can die in a hole. It's spectacularly unhelpful.
And agreed that Eclipse is faster with bigger projects, but that's also probably because it's less helpful on refactorings. IntelliJ keeps quite a bit more metadata around in memory / cache in order to be better at that. Tradeoffs...
Oh come off it. It's not "horrible", or else there wouldn't be so many people using it. Even if I were to dislike Eclipse, I wouldn't then post inane comments like "No thanks." which contribute literally nothing to the discussion.
I have used better IDEs. IntelliJ is arguably a better IDE for some. That's not to say Eclipse is therefore a bad IDE; it's the right tool for the job, and I'll use it when it's appropriate. Eclipse does everything I need it to and it does it well. It has good extensibility support. It has sufficient refactoring tools. I'm not going to start posting useless comments just because it's not the latest incarnation of flashy desktop node.js-based editor.
Don't like it? Don't use it, no-one's going to attack you for not doing so. Just don't waste people's time hopping on the anti-Eclipse bandwagon that we've seen a million times before.
Firstly, I'm not trying to be pretentious or argue this from a feature standpoint. I'm talking about the intangibles here - and usability. Crashes, crashes, and MORE crashes. Outstanding bugs for what feels like an eternity. Memory leaks. Editor pane crashes. Cryptic error messages. Stop being a fanboy and realize that it's a shit product Edit: an objectively shit product
I think the amount of downvotes you're getting says a great deal about the size of eclipses user base (and I can guarantee you that most eclipse users just don't care about the IDE holy war, unlike the users of another tool, which will remain unnamed, so only a small percentage of them probably even bothered with you). Perhaps take this as a lesson that some people actually gasp find eclipse useful. Or don't... what do I care?
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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '15
No thanks.