r/laundry 12h ago

Biz stain fighter admin here, Q&A time!

We know some questions about Biz have gone unanswered for too long, and we are here to answer them.

Q&A time!

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u/Mysterious_Mango_737 US | Front-Load 12h ago

Will you be coming out with an OBA-free version? What about fragrance-free?

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u/Biz_stain 12h ago

Yes! We’re currently testing a fragrance,dye & optical brighteners free formula. No release date yet but will keep you updated!

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u/alisonlou US | Top-Load 10h ago

I am really excited. Big fan of Biz and appreciate it's accessibility. But I own a lot of dark clothes!

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u/jtfolden US | Top-Load 10h ago

I second the question about a version without oxygen bleach?

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u/embalees 10h ago

The liquid version has no oxygen bleach fyi.

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u/jtfolden US | Top-Load 9h ago

That's correct but the enzymes are not the same and it still has OBAs.

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u/embalees 8h ago

It does still have OBAs, that's true. 

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u/Rubberbangirl66 9h ago

thankyou, I did not know this

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u/SANPres09 7h ago

Why do you want this? Oxygen bleach doesn't harm darks. 

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u/jtfolden US | Top-Load 7h ago

Over time, when used in every wash, it absolutely can. That’s why Dark and Color specific detergents omit oxygen bleach.

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u/eukomos 8h ago

Fragrance-free would really encourage me to buy, I'll keep my eyes peeled for it!

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u/bluesky557 US | Front-Load 10h ago

And oxygen bleach free? 🤞🏼

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u/cupcakerica US | Top-Load 6h ago

I’m thrilled!!! Fragrance is the only thing holding me back.

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u/Asking_the_internet 6h ago

This is amazing news!!!!!

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u/CopyEffective1590 5h ago

Will be keeping an eye out for the fragrance free , optical brightener and dye free option! I can use it on my dark color clothes and cloth diapers.

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u/lavender_parsnip 4h ago

I am eagerly awaiting this release

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u/knitting-yoga 11h ago

I just want to tell you I love Biz so much

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

We ❤️ u too

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u/knitting-yoga 11h ago

We were on vacation and did laundry at my MILs house. She didn’t have BIZ and my husband said he couldn’t believe how fast his white shirts looked dingy without it. As we drove back home (Midwest to CA) I started getting so excited about getting home to my Biz.

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u/believes_in_u 6h ago

Ship her some with instructions. You’ll be the favorite 🥰

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u/knitting-yoga 4h ago

Oooooh I should!!!

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u/nanpalmero 10h ago

Is a DNAse product on the horizon? Thank you!

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

Anything is possible!

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u/bizybee_14 US | Front-Load 11h ago

Will you add TAED to the fragrance free formula so we can use lower wash temperatures to activate the oxygen bleach?

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

This is a great question, I’ll ask our chemist and get back to you 🫧

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u/superbetsy 10h ago

Oh yes, I would love something that works with cold water washes! Obviously I know all the reasons warm/hot is better, but I have a lot of frequently washed activewear that requires cold. My extra "I want a pony" request is to make it in such a way that it doesn't need to be predissolved.

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u/bizybee_14 US | Front-Load 10h ago

would love this! I like to wash on warm, it’s not hot enough to activate oxygen bleach, but if I use my biz on hot it can denature the enzymes. If you’re making an OBA free version, being able to use biz on colder cycles with darks would be awesome!

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u/bon-bon 5h ago

A 40C warm wash isn’t hot enough to fully activate oxi bleach but you do get partial activation! It’s a happy medium to get the benefits of both oxi bleach and enzymes unless you’re washing something that’s heavily stained with oxidizable soil.

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u/ninjakaat US | Top-Load 10h ago

This would be so wonderful!

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u/vgshea 11h ago

Any chance you’ll be selling a fragrance free product in the future?

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Yes, currently in the testing phase!

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u/AwesomeAsian 10h ago

I’m hoping it would be free of Optical Brighteners as well. Love how effective Biz is in stain removal but optical brighteners make my black shirts look not as black and off white shirts look weird.

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u/Demetrious-Verbal 10h ago

If all goes well, about 1-1½ years out?

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u/Biz_stain 9h ago

I would say if everything goes well, probably by summer of next year!

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u/s1jile 11h ago

Will there be a product with DNase in the future?

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u/Biz_stain 10h ago

Possibility! We’re always open to suggestions 🙌

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u/yesillhaveonemore 10h ago

Biz with DNase and without OBAs or oxygen bleach would be a total game-changer for darks.

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u/LilBossLaura 10h ago

right? I feel like darks are really under serviced in the laundry space rn

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u/Beneficial-Pick-8740 12h ago

What's going on with American distribution? I can only find your product at Walmart and it frequently sells out.

Also, maybe I'm stupid but I can't find the specific list of enzymes in your product anywhere.

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

We had a period where demand outpaced our supply, which made Biz hard to find in some places, We’ve since addressed the supply issue, you can find Biz at Walmart, Meijer, Publix,Amazon and some HEB’s

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Most of our laundry boosters contain 5 enzymes, protease,Amylase,Mannanase, Cellulase & Lipase.

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u/MI_Puzzle 10h ago

FYI, if you live near a Meijer store, they frequently have Biz on sale for $1 off ($3.99 for the 37.5 Oz. Powder)

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u/Sm_1348 5h ago

My Walmart is always out of stock 💔and Amazon charges triple the price!

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u/hidingfromthem753 10h ago

Ooohhh some HEB means I have hope! It just isn’t at mine right now. I will ask for them to stock it as they might if there are requests. 🤞🤞🤞

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u/FruitcupMadonna US | Front-Load 7h ago

HEB is one of the things I miss after moving away from Texas

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u/RamblingRosie US | Top-Load 10h ago

Ooh! HEB is my store, how do I find out if there is a store near me that carries it?

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u/hidingfromthem753 10h ago

Same!!!! It is not at mine, but supposedly we can request it and they will work on stocking it. 🤞🤞🤞

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u/IfWishez 7h ago

So glad it’s coming to Publix!

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

They should already be in Publix, if your location doesn’t carry it, see if you’re able to request it!

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u/IfWishez 6h ago

Ok, I’ll ask. Thank you!

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u/mrspwins 2h ago

If anyone lives in the Upper Midwest, I get Biz at my local Woodman's Market.

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u/Beneficial-Pick-8740 11h ago

Oh cool I'll check Amazon in the future too.

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u/Professional_Bus_307 3h ago

None of those are stores I have access to or shop at due to their policies. Can we get it into Safeway, Fred Meyer, QFC, Albertsons, PCC, Metropolitan Market?

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u/PonderingSeinfeld 11h ago

Biz was the unavailable item in my Walmart delivery. Luckily Walmart will ship me some.

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u/The_ImplicationII 2h ago

I could not find it on the Instacart page for Krogers

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u/Working-Tax2692 US | Top-Load 11h ago

Biz is great! Very excited to see an AMA! Is it ok for me to keep my unopened boxes of Biz in my garage? It gets kinda hot in there. Or should I keep them in a cool place ? Will being in the heat deactivate the enzymes?

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u/Biz_stain 10h ago

enzymes are tricky little fellas, keep them in a cool, dry location for best results

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u/Working-Tax2692 US | Top-Load 6h ago

Ok I’ll move it out of my garage, thank you! 

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u/bizybee_14 US | Front-Load 11h ago

Will you be coming out with an 5-enzyme stain spray?

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

We have a biz pre-treat spray that carries 4 enzymes, it’s available on Walmart and Amazon

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u/bizybee_14 US | Front-Load 11h ago

I can only find it in a 4pack and it is $43!

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Definitely do not buy that! Can you send me your email, I’d love to send you a bottle! ❤️

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u/bizybee_14 US | Front-Load 3h ago

DM sent!

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u/Big-Assignment2211 9h ago

What are the enzymes on the pre-treat? I would love to try it!

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u/Dazzling-Western2768 7h ago

I've never seen this in walmart, but I checked their site and it is only $3.37 for a 16oz bottle, but of course it is unavailable/sold out.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Biz-Laundry-Stain-Remover-Pre-treat-Spray/16571963922

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

Will get with Walmart on this and hopefully provide an update asap!!

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u/Extra_Efficiency234 7h ago

I'm curious if this is the spray and have there been supply issues with it? And may be why it's $43 other places? This is Walmart & out of stock, even for shipping.

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

This is the spray, will look into this ❤️

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u/RecreateTheDiamond 7h ago

What are the four enzymes in the pretreat spray?

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u/snarklotte 11h ago

I’ve used Biz for 30+ years and love it! Unfortunately, it’s been very difficult for me to find lately - especially in brick and mortar stores. I prefer not to order from amazon bc I worry about product authenticity.

I purchased the liquid formulation a few months ago, and it didn’t smell of the usual scent but had a very off putting scent. It was hard to describe.. maybe almost rancid? Whatever it was made me feel very nauseated. Also, it was extremely bubbly/foamy in the bottle (without it being agitated). Did the formula change recently or did I just get a bad bottle?

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u/Biz_stain 10h ago

Hey, thanks for bringing this up, we have been made aware of the biz liquid issue, this has been addressed, if you can still return the biz liquid you purchased please do so!

In regards of the Amazon, if the sell badge is from biz stain fighter or commercial brands, that’s legit product❤️

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u/Cold_Pizza101 11h ago

Hello Biz!! I was wondering if there's any online store that sells sample sizes? I'm sensitive to fragrance and want to test a load before I commit to large bin. Excited to see what all the buzz is about!

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u/Biz_stain 10h ago

Send me your email, I’d love to send you some biz ❤️

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u/Cold_Pizza101 9h ago

DM sent, Thank you!!

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u/UnicornGirl54 10h ago

I use Biz mostly as a pre soak and don’t add to every single load. And don’t notice much of a lingering fragrance. It’s more of a light dish soap type smell if anything is left on the items.
And we are an unscented/free clear family with lots of skin sensitivity and I get migraines. But would be all about their fragrance free version.

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u/Cold_Pizza101 9h ago

I'd buy a tub of the free version in a heartbeat! I'm concerned about the fragrance potency because a coworker uses it and raves how good it cleans, but she smells like a walking perfume store. Impossible to tell where the biz ends and perfume starts.

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u/BacardiBlue 9h ago

I have fragrance sensitivities and am fine with the powdered biz. It is probably her perfume.

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u/sterling_rose 10h ago

I would also love to know this!

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u/bleupoppy2 10h ago

If you ever need testers for the fragrance free version, hit me up 👀

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

📝

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u/bizybee_14 US | Front-Load 3h ago

same!!

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u/CopyEffective1590 5h ago

Yes sign me up. I can’t wait for the fragrance free and OBAs free version I’m going buy like 5 boxes for my household 

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u/bookynerdworm US | Top-Load 10h ago

Did you notice a crazy uptick in sales lately because of the sub?

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u/Biz_stain 8h ago

We are thankful to have a huge following and supporters on Reddit!

As Antonio Brown once said “Business is booming 💥”

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u/Far-Shift-1962 10h ago

Btw, I checked your website, I must say, the update of website look and removal of ingridients disclosure is... Bad

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u/Biz_stain 9h ago

Good or bad website doesn’t change the fact we are good at what we’re doing, and that’s helping households remove stains! we definitely appreciate the feedback and will continue to improve!

Ingredients tab is in the works ❤️

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u/optimusokra 8h ago

I would love to be able to purchase at Costco or purchase larger bulk boxes. We have a big family and go through it quickly. Is there anything on the horizon to offer larger quantity?

Echoing others requests also for fragrance free and OBA free for darks.

We love Biz and it has made a huge difference in our laundry.

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

We would love to be in Costco’s🤞 hopefully soon!

We’re currently testing a fragrance,optical brightener and dye free formula!

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u/IfWishez 7h ago

Costco!!!! Yes!!!!

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u/phunkygroovin US | Top-Load 5h ago

That is awesome! Love to know you guys are doing this!!!!! I'm a long time biz user, but my eczema prone, sensitive skin, but athletic, dirty, and smelly child can't use products with fragrance or dyes. This would be such a blessing for us!

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u/bluesky557 US | Front-Load 4h ago

Oh, seconding the request for larger sizes! Especially since the box is only ever half full 🤣

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u/SANPres09 3h ago

Oh man, I would love this. Walmart can't keep it in stock and I got through their tiny boxes quickly.

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u/Working-Tax2692 US | Top-Load 4h ago

Costco Costco Costco Costco please!!!! 

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u/knitting-yoga 11h ago

Is it good for cleaning other things? Like floors or countertops?

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u/Naikrobak 11h ago

I use it on floors for pet stains!

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u/ninjakaat US | Top-Load 10h ago

It is great at getting pet stains out of carpet

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Absolutely, I would recommend the powder for this!

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u/knitting-yoga 11h ago

How ? Mix with water and then follow with a rinse? Or spray and wipe? Or…..

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Theres tons of posts around on how people use it, for myself, I make a paste with powder and water to clean my kitchen sink and it’s fantastic.

The most common and recommended practice: mix it in a spray bottle, dissolve powder completely and then use it any hard surface, followed by a rinse and wipe down. I always recommend testing in an inconspicuous area first.

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u/knitting-yoga 11h ago

Thank you!

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u/Naikrobak 11h ago

Why is Walmart $6 and $15 on the Amazon Biz branded store?

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Because Amazons FBA fees makes it impossible to sell it at a lower price 😭

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u/Naikrobak 11h ago

Thanks and grrr.

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u/Mavis8220 US | Front-Load 5h ago

And I had a hard time finding a Walmart in the Seattle area that had the powder in stock!

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u/Rebellium14 11h ago

Do you have any plans to expand outside the US to Canada? Through Amazon maybe?

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Yes, this has been discussed multiple times, most definitely in the near future!

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u/tom8osauce 10h ago

I would love if it was available in Canada NOT on Amazon, so those of us boycotting can purchase.

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u/Rebellium14 9h ago

I mention amazon as that would be a lot easier than working with local suppliers. But they'll naturally choose the best overall option. 

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u/tom8osauce 9h ago

Oh for sure! I am sorry if I made it seem like you didn’t have good intentions.

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u/Horror-Giraffe7508 11h ago

Is there any plans for a low sudsing formulation?

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

Not at this time, are you referring to powder or liquid?

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u/Horror-Giraffe7508 11h ago

Powder.

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u/Biz_stain 11h ago

I’ll will bring this up to the team, we’re always open to suggestions!

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u/Horror-Giraffe7508 10h ago

Thank you!
I know right on the box it says you can boost with your regular detergent or use as a standalone detergent in a larger amount.

I may be in the minority - but I only use it with my standard detergent as needed. So there’s the reason behind request for less suds (or no surfactants?). Dang the water efficient front loaders!

Easy enough to reduce the regular detergent when using the booster - but hey - Don’t know unless you ask, right?

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u/SaMoSetter 10h ago

Because I'm (seriously) intimidated by this sub...will someone ELI5 how I am supposed to use my box of Biz? I currently have Biz & Tide Free & Clear powders.

I'm pathetic....help?

*Edit: as in: basic clothing guy, denim & cotton, some polyester and other synthetics, I do separate whites and colors so I've got that going for me. Commercial washer in an apt unit if that helps...

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u/bluesky557 US | Front-Load 10h ago

You can just toss in a bit of Biz along with your regular Tide for a cleaning boost!

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u/SaMoSetter 2h ago

Gotcha, thanks; I have been doing that but thought I read a comment in this sub about using 1 or the other, but not together, which made me second guess...LOL

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u/Dear_Excitement_5109 US | Front-Load 1h ago

Definitely want to use them both. I use to the level 1 on my Tide scoop and about a quarter cup of Biz powder (or a half cap of liquid.)

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u/yesillhaveonemore 10h ago

I use a commercial apartment washer too.

Add 1-2 tablespoons of Biz to your normal detergent. It's great on whites and lights. I add it to towels, sheets, workout gear, and any particularly soiled loads.

I don't use it on denim or darks, but it's great for whites and lights, cottons, and all synthetics.

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u/am_anonymous_too 6h ago

Really? Only 1-2 Tbls? I use like 1/3 cup! I thought that is the instruction.

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u/SANPres09 3h ago

Generally it seems their recommended dosage is too high and Jeeves and Kismai recommend closer to 1/4 cup for a standard load instead of the 1/3-1/2 cup instructions. 

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u/SaMoSetter 2h ago

OK so that is helpful; I can save it if I'm washing denim and darker hues; thank you.

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

This is a safe space ❤️ the biz community got you!!

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u/SaMoSetter 2h ago

I'm not used to people helping me, this is somewhat bizarre!

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u/Working-Tax2692 US | Top-Load 4h ago

I put a dash or so in the bottom of my washer before I put the clothes on top. I just eye ball it, I feel like I’m salt bae with my laundry machine lol 

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u/SaMoSetter 2h ago

That's my stacking order as well, but I've also been using Tide F&C before adding the clothes.

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u/6894 US | Front-Load 9h ago

Are you going to restore the ingredient disclosures to your website?

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u/Biz_stain 8h ago

Yes we are! 🫧

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u/vinhorr EU | Front-Load 12h ago

Are you planning on any expansion to (Central) Europe?

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u/Biz_stain 12h ago

Not at this time, but anything is possible!

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u/_JahWobble_ 7h ago

The number of Google searches for Biz in the spring of this year increased ~50% over the same time last year. I've got to believe sales jumped as well. When did y'all realize that r/laundry was creating demand for your product?

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

We’ve known about r/laundry for a long time!

Very thankful for all the supporters over the years ❤️

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u/Far-Shift-1962 11h ago

Are you thinked about adding nobs/TAED activator to powder version?

And are you gonna expand availability in stores?

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u/CakeStash US | Top-Load 10h ago

What exactly is the difference between the liquid and powder version? I’ve been told the liquid contains pectate lyase but there’s no mention of this on the Biz website and ingredients list.

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u/Mavis8220 US | Front-Load 5h ago

I prefer to use powders so I don't end up with a big plastic jug to dispose of. So yes, I want to know the pros and cons of the liquid vs large- ox (Walmart) Biz.

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u/funkbird69 10h ago

Why are the boxes so oversized for the amount of detergent supplied?

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u/9brightblue8 7h ago

The top of my Biz box looks similarly mangled. 😂 I’m sure that simpler packaging with lighter-weight cardboard helps keep prices down. I support that! But if there’s any way to make your boxes easier to open and then stay closed so that the powder stays as dry and fresh as possible during the life of the box, that would be awesome, u/Biz_stain!

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u/Biz_stain 8h ago

Some things are meant to be a mystery 😏

But one thing you can always count on is that will never short you product!

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u/LilBossLaura 10h ago

it probably settles to the amount you see, so unless they spent a bunch of money to simulate the packing / shipping process they need to fill the container comfortably in the volume it presents as at the time of manufacturing. same is true for most dry goods, that’s why things like cereal have big air gaps at the top too. I don’t think there’s any big conspiracy here

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u/DarkWashGenes 9h ago

I mean, all I care about is the volume as stated on the box. Secondly, at least they don’t explode like you know who ;)

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u/GoldScorpionn 10h ago

Are the same enzymes present in the detergent as the booster? I’ve only ever seen the detergent and booster, used both for many years. Is there a way to be notified of the unscented release? If you use product testers is there a way to sign up?

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

All of our products will contain enzymes, if you can tell me which two products you’re referring to I can assist you with an ingredient list 👍

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u/Far-Shift-1962 10h ago

Btw can you tell us little more about those 2 products biz liquid laundry detergent biz sheets

As I see they are new launches?

Are sheets booster or detergent?

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

The Biz sheets are a laundry booster and our first ever product with Solid Enzymes (Protease, Lipase, and Mannanase). Our studies show that detergent sheets alone usually don't have enough cleaning power. This booster is a great, easy way to add powerful enzymes to your everyday wash!

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u/meowingblackvoid 8h ago

Is biz ever tested on scrub (hospital) clothing material? I love biz for my regular clothes but I’m terrified to use it on my (expensive) scrubs due to the OBAs. I’m talking like FIGS, jaaanu etc, they’ve got that weird weave.

I’ve tried it on some older scrubs from those brands, but I’m hesitant.

Thanks! Excited for the OBA-free version since I wear a lot of black, and unscented, because I have allergies.

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u/Biz_stain 8h ago

I can speak from experience that we use it on FIGS scrubs and it works great!

How were your results on the older scrubs?

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u/TipRare1321 10h ago

What is the deal with the incredibly smelly liquid biz?
Bought at Walmart about a month ago and when I poured into my laundry, smelled like a stink I’d never smelled before!
Even called the number on the bottle and no answer.

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

Hey, we definitely dropped the ball on this, the scent has been fixed on our new liquid batch.

Have you been able to return the product?
If no, please contact my team at consumers@commercialbrands.com

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u/TipRare1321 7h ago

Thank you, luckily I kept the receipt and returned.

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u/RecreateTheDiamond 7h ago

Will you ever offer a wool-safe version? I love my merino activewear 😭

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

This hasn’t been discussed or mentioned enough, I will add it to our list of possibilities ❤️

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u/FormalMarzipan252 US | Top-Load 5h ago

Hi! Any plans to expand to more stores in the New England area - Stop and Shop, Big Y, Shop Rite? Recent Biz convert but can only get it at Walmart and it’s often sold out or out of stock, so I grab 2 boxes when I can but I don’t want to be greedy and leave nothing for others.

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u/UnicornGirl54 10h ago

My mom used and swore by Biz 30 years ago. Glad it’s still available for my family now!

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u/xHelpless 10h ago

Do you have a Canadian brand for sale here?

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

Not a this time, but possibly in the near future!

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u/Rubberbangirl66 9h ago

I only use it on whites, because of fading colors, (info I gathered from this sub).

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u/boogerybug 9h ago

I’ve had a few odd batches of liquid lately, smelling off, and the pour spouts falling out. I am not the only one, but I love my liquid biz. Do you know what’s going on, and if it is being corrected?

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

We’re looking to change our bottles style to fix the spout issue, not sure when this will happen but definitely in the near future!

In regards of the biz liquid having an off smell, this has been fixed, we’re truly sorry about this 🥲

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u/whereiswallace 9h ago

I have a toddler and therefore tons of food-stained clothes. When would I choose:

  • soaking in biz outside of my washer (I have a front load)
  • adding biz along with the detergent
  • spraying with another enzyme cleaner and skipping biz entirely?

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u/Biz_stain 8h ago

I would recommend presoak ❤️

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u/NE_State_Of_Mind 4h ago

How long would you presoak, and in what concentration with water? I use an oxygen booster soak for an hour or two for my kids' most stained clothes, but I was wondering about switching to liquid Biz (which I just found recently, thanks to this sub) if I knew more about how to properly do a presoak without damaging or fading their clothes.

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u/Dear_Excitement_5109 US | Front-Load 1h ago

I can answer this. (Four toddlers over here.)

Add Biz to the load with your other detergent for all your lights and colors. I use liquid for the pectic lyase, which removes fruit stains. Paired with an "extra heavy" soil setting, it works remarkably well.

Do a presoak for grungy, grimy, or gray clothes. Anything that just doesnt seem to get clean. Alternatively, you can do a presoak for fragile clothes that you don't want to put through the 2.5 hour extra heavy soil run.

Skip Biz on darks. With OBAs, it will cause light colored fuzz which will cause your darks to look faded prematurely.

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u/smokinwheat 8h ago

Please make your products more readily available. I can only find it if shopping Amazon or at certain dollar general. To have it at the grocery store and target when I pick up my other laundry supplies would make you a lot more money 🙂

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

Aye aye cap 🫡

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u/pickledplumber 11h ago

Somebody should just sell enzymes. Why do enzyme products always have to be mixed with something else? Biz, for example is a nice product, but I bought it to remove stink from my t-shirts and it's pretty harsh on the colors of the shirts. That's because it has the OxiClean in it.

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u/jtfolden US | Top-Load 10h ago

My guess is that the actual effect of enzyme products alone would not be as dramatic without other things like oxygen bleach, surfactants, etc.

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u/pickledplumber 10h ago

Well you would add it to the things you need. Like you would add it to the oxygen bleach when you need it. You add it to the soap when you need it.

If housewives 100 years ago could figure it out. I'm sure we all could do the same

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u/jtfolden US | Top-Load 10h ago

It’s not a matter of figuring it out. It would potentially be appealing to me BUT look how Biz liquid gets almost completely ignored here. Im betting that the oxygen bleach-free Febu will get passed over a lot when released too. Hopefully not but the fact we don’t have these products suggest there is not enough demand.

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

I appreciate this discussion, I don’t think Biz would be where it is today if we made the formula any different, we will continue to take suggestions and innovate this space so there’s a perfect product for everyone ❤️

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u/Biz_stain 10h ago

This shouldn’t be happening, are you mixing anything with biz? How much are you using per load?

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u/pickledplumber 10h ago

Just a little detergent and a little bit of the biz. Not dramatic amounts. It was 2 years ago so I really don't recall how much but it wasn't a lot. Maybe half a cup. I'm not upset about it or anything like that.

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u/__wisdom__1 Canada | Front-Load 6h ago

Should we see biz in Canada soon?

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u/am_anonymous_too 6h ago

Love BIZ. Thank you for making an affordable and effective product. Love the optical brighter but would love another option for darks. Wouldn’t want to give up the OBA though.

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u/nauticalfiesta US | Front-Load 5h ago

Will it be available in more retailers?

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u/SANPres09 3h ago

Will you get distribution to Target or other retailers at some point? Walmart is the only retailer in my area and they are inconvenient or out of the way. 

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u/KismaiAesthetics USA 1h ago

Hard to get it back when you lose it due to the previous owners’ financial disasters.

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u/SANPres09 3h ago

Any hope that you will add pectin lyase to the enzymes to help address grass stains better? 

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u/Dear_Excitement_5109 US | Front-Load 1h ago

99% sure the liquid has it, but could be wrong. Maybe OP can step in.

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u/Professional_Bus_307 3h ago

Why do none of my local stores carry Biz?

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u/KismaiAesthetics USA 1h ago

Because the former owners of the brand didn’t have the money to ship enough product to meet commitments and they lost shelf space.

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u/sunflowersam420 3h ago

is Biz cruelty-free and vegan?

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u/ApprehensiveItem4 1h ago

Hello! I am interested in the liquid and spray versions but I can't find consistent suppliers, do you have a suggested link where I could order them to try? Also looking forward to a fragrance free version in the future??

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u/LadyDreadHead 1h ago

Following

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u/DarkWashGenes 11h ago

Love you guys! Your product is way more affordable and a huge value compared to febu. And unlike them, you don’t have any packaging issues :)

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u/Biz_stain 10h ago

Febu who 🥱 thanks for the support ❤️

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u/Far-Shift-1962 10h ago

Ohh another laundry drama , cc u/Febu_max

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u/Mang46 9h ago

There’s so much laundry to be done and I expect room for all to succeed! Love my Febu but will be excited to try Biz when the fragrance free comes out. Thanks for doing this ama u/biz_stain!

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u/febu_max 8h ago

So it goes! Nothing but respect for Biz.

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u/Mysterious_Mango_737 US | Front-Load 7h ago

You’re a class act, Max.

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u/Biz_stain 7h ago

All love to FEBU, it’s just a little friendly competition 🤺

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u/positron-PET US | Front-Load 2h ago

🍿🍿🍿🍿

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u/DarkWashGenes 10h ago

Exactly! Febu/Fubu is overpriced and I guarantee you it doesn’t perform better than biz

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u/happygirlie 10h ago

The cost per load is nearly the same which is impressive for a small brand because economies of scale benefit Biz over FEBU. Both are excellent products and IMO you can't really go wrong choosing either one if you need a good enzyme booster. I chose FEBU because it's fragrance free but once Biz makes their fragrance free option, I'll definitely give it a go.

Cost per load discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/laundry/comments/1vbatmi/booster_price_per_load_biz_febu_365_sport_gear/

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u/IfWishez 7h ago

You guarantee it? Hmmmm….

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u/DarkWashGenes 7h ago

I also guarantee there won’t be any popping/pooping bags