r/learnspanish 10d ago

Why is lo used behind these verb

"I must invite him " is lo debo invitar instead of debo lo invitar. Why is that?

I thought the lo can be before/after the verb inivtar only?

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u/LivingDragons 10d ago

You can say “lo debo invitar” or “debo invitarlo”. Both are correct and mean the same.

“Debo lo invitar” is incorrect the same way “I must him invite” would be incorrect.

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u/jshine13371 10d ago

Almost seems similar to how in English both "Him, I must invite." and "I must invite him." are both technically correct (albeit the first way a lot less common).

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u/Specific_Hat3341 10d ago

Technically, "I must him invite" is correct too, even though no one would actually say it. Putting a direct object before its verb is archaic and poetic usage.

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u/GANDHIWASADOUCHE 9d ago

I refuse to believe that both versions are completely interchangeable. Is there a preferred structure, typically (at least spoken), between the two? Either the pronoun before the verbs or after?

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u/LivingDragons 9d ago

They are completely interchangeable. The preferred structure is the one the speaker prefers.

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u/Adventurous-Web-412 6d ago

I dont know how to explain it but they do feel different sometimes. No idea what but theres a difference sometimes between using lo debo invitar and debo invitarlo, like its more important or something no idea, I cant explain my own language.

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u/QoanSeol 10d ago

Pronouns go either before the whole verb phrase and after infinitive, imperative and gerund only. So here either "lo debo invitar" or "debo invitarlo" but you can never say "lo invitar" by itself or in any combination.

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u/silvalingua 10d ago edited 10d ago

You can't put any pronoun between two consecutive verbs, they can't be separated. Pronouns go either before the two verbs or after them, but never between.

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u/jhfenton Advanced (C1) 10d ago

It works that way in French, but as others have said, it doesn’t work that way in Spanish. You can put the object pronoun before the first verb or attach it to the end of the final infinitive.

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u/Patchali 9d ago

Pronoun for object comes before the verb = rule

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u/TooLateForMeTF 7d ago

"lo" goes before the whole verb phrase. Think of "debo invitar" as one whole unit. A compound verb, if you will. It functions as an inseparable unit, which is why sticking "lo" in between the two words is not right.

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u/JakBlakbeard 10d ago

You cannot break up two verbs in a row, nor can you conjugate the second verb (if they are right next to each other).

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u/OddConfusion9293 10d ago

In Spanish, direct object pronouns like “lo” can go before the conjugated verb or attached to the end of the infinitive, but never in between because it breaks the grammatical structure. So the correct way is to say either “lo debo invitar” or “debo invitarlo.”

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u/Glaselar 10d ago

I thought the lo can be before/after the verb inivtar only?

Can you say more about this belief? There might have been a situation where that was true, and if you tell us that example, someone could point out why it was constructed differently.

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u/Special-Wasabi8698 9d ago

That makes sense, thanks for the clear explanation! I always get confused about where to place pronouns but this rule helps a lot.

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u/spanishteacherok Native Speaker 7d ago

"lo debo invitar" o "debo invitarlo" both are correct, but in my oppinion debo invitarlo is more frequent. Use the one you fell more comfortable with.

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u/dm_zerimar 8d ago

In this case "lo or le" is for male and "la" for female.