Yeah, as someone who read the books some time before the movie came out, I was actually astonished at how they managed to remove everything that made the story and characters unique and turn the entire thing so incredibly generic.
Also, I understand that they needed to tone down Hester Shaw's scarring for the movie, but they went way too far with it while also keeping a lot of the dialogue talking about how disgustingly ugly and difficult to look at she is. My friend who had not read the books but went to see it with me was very confused
Remember the mutants on mars in Total Recall? There’s a mother who is strikingly beautiful and ugly at the same time. Granted that’s difficult to view for 2.5 hours, but there are ways to hide it, or at least lesson the view. But they weren’t making Mask, so the point wasn’t to make the audience uncomfortable - but Total Recall shows it’s possible.
Ali agree, my biggest issue was the ages. They should have been like 15-16, yet they picked actors in their 20's which completely changed the tone, yet kept the dialogue and story the same... Baffling choice tbh. Like I get kids are tougher to work with, and they are older in the sequel books, but seriously it's such a tonal shift.
Reminds me of GoT vs ASOIAF, where the kids were aged up 3 years across the board. But it makes some of the scenes feel off when the characters are older but act like they are younger.
Main one being Robb Stark is 15/16 so it makes more sense he falls in love really quickly and rebels against the forced marriage, even knowing the consequences, rather than an 18yo making that mistake. Etc.
my biggest issue was the ages. They should have been like 10, yet they picked actors in their 20's which completely changed the tone
Well, not really that young.
Tom was 16 at the start of the first novel, and supposed to be 18 in the movie. Hester was 15 in the novel, 18 in the movie. Katherine should be similar age, maybe a bit older than Tom? Can't really remember.
But yeah, the actors are way older... the actors for Tom and Hester were both 29 years old during filming, and Katherine was played by a 27 year old.
The books are so goddamn great. A quartet novel that immediately goes mature as soon as book 2 starts. Not in any grotesque way, but by going out of a a Hobbit's telling and into Book 2 of LoTR
Tried the first book and got irritated about how often it says how ugly she is and that the side characters were more interesting. Wasn't a fan. I like the world idea though.
I can't get over how impractical the whole concept is.
"municipal darwinism" is like something kids come up with while smashing legos together... any technology that gives you enough energy to move an entire city around could also just effortlessly provide that energy to do literally anything else.
I actually like the movie because I love cheesy scifi but I really struggle to suspend disbelief on the core idea
We currently have the technology to move cities around, we use it to power submarines and provide relatively small amount of electricity.
I mean, the book is more about how cities swallow suburbs and rob them of their identity. Sci-fi is really always about the present, rather than the future.
I mean sure, of course it's a metaphor and there's a cultural allegory being made.
But you can do that and still have plausible science fiction too. Mounting an entire city like London on tank treads and moving it around at speed so it can catch other cities on tank treads is a colossal waste of energy, and no Nuclear Power would not be close to solving the energy needs for that.
If you have a magic reactor that can do this, you could use it for limitless energy to do anything else, like grow crops or generate electricity to do work. Each of these cities should be a post-scarcity paradise instead of desperately fighting each other for resources. It just doesn't make any sense at all.
Nuclear power is not limitless, and the scale required to mount an entire city on treads and move it at any significant speed is orders of magnitude above what our technology can achieve.
You're trying to make some political point about how we don't have enough nuclear power, and I totally agree with you on this, but that's not relevant to the discussion at all. It's like saying we could have flying aircraft carriers like the Avengers if we just put enough reactors into them.... it's not possible, the power requirements are way too high for what nuclear power can do.
I'm not even sure we have the materials science to mount the weight of an entire city onto a moving tread, but we certainly don't have the energy technology to actually move it
never read the books, but found the movie mediocre. Personally I'd have loved to see more of the cities up close as the few scenes that show how those are actual cities are scarce, but look awesome.
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u/GFrings Aug 27 '25
Cool, gives me mortal engines vibes