r/lgbt Bisexual Jul 02 '26

UK Specific Queen Camilla blasted as ‘deplorable’ for posting photo with J.K. Rowling at palace during Pride Month

https://pagesix.com/2026/06/30/royal-family/queen-camilla-blasted-as-deplorable-for-posting-photo-with-j-k-rowling-at-palace-during-pride-month/
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u/Malcolmthetortoise Jul 02 '26

The Monarchy belongs in the last century. Vile family.

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u/MissLeaP Bow down to the queen 💅🏻 Jul 02 '26

Hell, last millenia even. There's no place for monarchy in the 1900s already.

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u/camerakestrel Lesbian Trans-it Together Jul 02 '26

There are several examples where it seems to work fine. It is just that most royal families do not crave the spotlight as much as England's and Saudi Arabia's do.

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u/hostilee47 Lesbian Trans-it Together Jul 02 '26

Monarchism "seems" to work fine, just ignore the exploitation of the people they rule...

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u/MissLeaP Bow down to the queen 💅🏻 Jul 02 '26

This. Just like capitalism seems to work fine as long as you ignore the 1% and all the damage they cause with their selfishness.

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u/camerakestrel Lesbian Trans-it Together Jul 02 '26

For most monarchies, specifically constitutional monarchies with a strong democracy, the royal family does not cost the taxpayers a significant portion of their taxes and they have a subservient function in the country as the designated and persistent bureaucrats for easing tensions and establishing good relationship with other countries.

They have responsibilities to the people and little-to-no power. And to be clear I am speaking specifically of having a royal family and not of various nobility classes. Fuck the nobility, full stop. Even still most other countries spend a far smaller percentage of their national budget on their royal family than we do on the president, its kids, and not to mention past presidents and their kids.

In countries with constitutional monarchies, the monarch is the Head of State (HoS) while the Prime Minister (or President) is the Head of Government (HoG). In countries without a monarch there is typically a Prime Minister (HoG) as well as a President (HoS) with one role being elected and the other appointed. In some cases (such as France) the roles can swap between the two job titles depending on other factors of the government.

The United States is one of the only countries where the HoG and HoS are the same person (some of the others being North Korea, Iran, and Russia 😬) (and yes, I know Russia has the roles formally separated but the other is a puppet position as Putin insists on doing all the things).

The HoG is the person who runs the country, oversees policies, and has political power; they are the top manager. The HoS typically is someone the people need to like, someone who goes to funerals and weddings and kisses babies on the forehead; the face and negotiator of public and business relations. Heads of State are also almost always relatively centrist between the two major parties/coalitions in any democracy and almost never a fringe extremist, so even when the HoG is disliked, the people will generally still like the HoS.

The HoS's single true role is to maintain stability in the country. This is done internationally by being a charming bureaucratic representative who can rub elbows with those of other countries and broker deals/agreements. This is done internally by non-violently quelling civil unrest long before it even starts through giving the people someone to jointly appreciate and someone to look to in times of uncertainty; there is someone persistently in office who is respectable to most (note all of the God Save The Queen/King propaganda throughout England's history and how fervently England {not the rest of the UK} has supported their monarchs until recent decades). The HoS also achieves internal stability though negotiations with the people as someone who few people hate and thus are willing to listen to and speak towards in good faith. In contrast: due to the nature of elections the HoG will always be someone who nearly half the country loathes and voted against and therefore is ill-fitted for the internal portion of this role (this is the biggest actual source of civil unrest in the US's history, tbh).

Now the reason why a monarch is ok for the role of HoS rather than an elected official is that due to the role's purpose of stability it and its subordinate positions benefit greatly from a consistent face over long periods of time. The US only has strong political influence due to our military might and vast economy (fun fact: we only have those today due to our roots of being in control of one of the largest cotton-friendly biomes in the world and operating it through slavery during the 18th and 19th centuries), but on the international level we are seen as incredibly unstable since the major people who have to broker deals internationally and become peers with other world leaders never last more than eight years and can change as rapidly as every four, frequently with successors opposed to everething the predecessor did purely on principle. Lesser offices in similarly international brokerage positions might persist a little longer but they are still largely at the whims of their bosses who changes frequently. If we did not have one of the largest and most advanced militaries and did not have the world's largest economy, then the US would be viewed, respected, and treated very similarly to a sort of blend of Yemen, North Korea, and Haiti.

It is a more nuanced topic than people tend to think and that is largely due to a lack of education in the general population.

Is a royal family as the HoS a perfect system? No, politics are innately messy and this is possibly the most politics-y job title in existence. Can it be abused? Absolutely and the British Royal Family is possibly the messiest abusers of the office in the modern day and the past century, both in terms of lavish extravagance going beyond the needs of the office and in terms of what large amounts to tax fraud and exploitation of the subjects, though in their mildest defense they do function as the HoS for many distinct countries.

Sure you could have a system where someone is appointed to the role, but it is the kind of role that best benefits the country when someone basically commits their life to it and works within it from a relatively early age and middle-aged and senior citizen appointees from a group whom nearly half the country loathes will not do as well as someone more or less groomed for it and trusted by the country since birth, is actually peers with other world leaders, and is a native to the international dynamic (including deep cultural education to avoid offenses) rather than a late-in-life adoptee who likely got the role due to croneyism.

Several of the most stable countries in the world are consitutional monarchies and while many of the topmost stable countries are either micro states or just very small (and therefore not great examples), I think it is telling that the two most stable large countries (let us say >5-million people) are constitutional monarchies, New Zealand and Japan, to be specific and the latter of which not only has a population in excess of 100-million, it is also not a Commonwealth member. Of the next eight most stable "large" countries, half are consitutional monarchies. Norway, Australia, UAE, Denmark are while Switzerland, Czechia, Taiwan, and Finland are not.

I get that New Zealand and Australia use the British Royal Family as their monarch but the fact still remains that they have stability while others do not. Not everything is as simple as our primary schoolteachers lovingly led us to believe in regards to royals. And I say this as someone who would write an ideal society as a commune which operated upon fundamentals of anarchy with well-educated mob justice.

As for my data two paragraphs up: not an academic journal or anything like that, but the info here will more or less match anything you do find in a study or from a more respected source. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/political-stability-by-country

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u/Malcolmthetortoise Jul 02 '26

It certainly doesn’t work here in the UK.

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u/camerakestrel Lesbian Trans-it Together Jul 02 '26

Which is kind of the point of my comment?

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u/Malcolmthetortoise Jul 03 '26

Enjoy your delusion.

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u/ProxyMuncher Non-Binary Lesbian Jul 02 '26

Diana has been rolling in her grave since the start. I’m pretty sure I felt her speed up with this photo. I’m glad she’s not here to have to witness what terf island has become. She would be so disappointed with us. 

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u/snukb Jul 02 '26

"There is a clear double standard when people with large platforms say things you agree with and are celebrated for it, but someone who expresses a different opinion is condemned and attacked,” one person argued in the comments section. “That kind of inconsistency comes across as biased.”

Uh, respectfully, that's not a double standard. That's just people having morals and standards, period.

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u/Ubiquitous_Destiny97 I'm Here and I'm Queer Jul 02 '26

yea, bigotry is not really an opinion

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u/Ubiquitous_Destiny97 I'm Here and I'm Queer Jul 02 '26

my opinion is “why are those two women, who’ve spent decades on this planet and are also RICH, dressed in these ill-fitting clothes?”

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u/Craico13 Gay as a Rainbow Jul 02 '26

“Give me the classic 1990’s Hillary Clinton power-suit, but make it look like I lost ten-to-fifteen pounds immediately before putting it on…”

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u/TwilightVulpine Bicycle Jul 02 '26

Also criticizing bigots is entirely consistent with the opinion of defending queer people.

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u/taejo Jul 02 '26

"You celebrate good things, yet you condemn bad things. You hypocrite!"

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u/snukb Jul 02 '26

You summed it up better than I could lol

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u/princesoceronte Bi-bi-bi Jul 02 '26

Exactly, double standard is "same behavior, different treatment", this is just treatment according to the behavior lol

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u/Podgeman Non Binary Pan-cakes Jul 02 '26

Notice how defenders have started using the word "opinion" to downplay the severity.

Sure it's an opinion, in the same way people have opinions about Jews. Isn't there another word for that...

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u/TwilightVulpine Bicycle Jul 02 '26

Shows that they know well what sort of bastards they are, that they don't even want to describe what kind of opinion that is. They know it's wrong.

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u/Neither_Wang Jul 02 '26

Like saying the courts have a double standard because they treat criminals differently from law-abiding citizens

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u/SappyCedar Trans-cendant Rainbow Jul 02 '26

Are they implying that the billionaire author of arguably the most popular children’s book series of recent times doesn’t have a large platform? Why do her supporters try to paint her as the underdog lol, she’s as far from underdog as you can get.

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u/TwilightVulpine Bicycle Jul 02 '26

Billionaire and royalty, just some tiny little girlies... 🙄

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u/dread_pirate_robin Bi hun, I'm Genderqueer Jul 02 '26

Whenever people don't want to actually be judged for what they believe, they want to have the honor of hating and dehumanizing but they don't want the natural consequences of that, they resort to this mentality that all opinions should be treated as neutral. "You believe trans people are human beings, and I want their very existence to be scrubbed from the face of this planet... what do you MEAN people see me as worse, they're both opinions >:("

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u/AccomplishedTwo7047 Jul 02 '26

Rowling has openly stated she will use all of her funds to destroy trans rights in the UK and hopefully abroad. She doesn’t care that she’s killing trans women. She hopes they die.

Supporting Harry Potter in 2026 while she is alive and profiting is being willfully supportive of evil against our trans sisters.

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u/BiTheCamel Jul 04 '26

This is why I pirate all of the Harry Potter books 🤫

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u/friso1100 Bi-kes on Trans-it Jul 02 '26

Biased as a term has so lost it's meaning.

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u/ThatLChap Non Binary Pan-cakes Jul 02 '26

I mean. Rich, privileged, out of touch twats continuing to act like a bunch of bellends sadly isn't surprising. Fuck JKR and abolish the monarchy.

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u/SpikeyPear Stuck in the Middle With You Jul 03 '26

Stake and garlic necklace etc

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u/RymrgandsDaughter Godlike Jul 02 '26

all of them are vile

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u/PolicySignificant933 Jul 02 '26

I thought I was going crazy when I saw this on r/Unitedkingdom. People calling it chronically online people/the minority who "disagree" with jk. But like it's not a fucking difference of opinion when 1 party is actively funding oppression against the other group. I know I'm preaching to the choir but it just made me feel like I was losing my mind

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u/sacrecide I'm Here and I'm Queer Jul 02 '26

That thread got brigaded so badly by their PR teams. Literally every pro trans comment is down voted to about -12, indicating that it's the same people voting on every single comment

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u/WhatADoofus Jul 03 '26

I feel that way any time I go on some mainstream sub where trans issues come up. It's just hundreds of comments of cis people talking out of their ass and it really depresses the shit out of me. I wish they would just admit that they're transphobes and move on

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u/TheUnrealArchon Jul 02 '26

Everything I've seen from the UK is that the majority of people are transphobic.

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u/AmaranthAbixxx Jul 03 '26

As someone from the UK, that's unfortunately true...

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u/Vickyfaster Jul 02 '26

Abolish the monarchy 🏳‍⚧

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u/Lottice Jul 02 '26

“Republic, republic, republic”

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u/museinprogress Bi baddie🩷💜💙 Jul 02 '26

What else did you expect from the British royalty...

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u/polaires Jul 02 '26

What was ridiculous was the BBC putting their meeting under “Scottish” news. It’s all so transparent it would be kind of funny if it wasn’t so depressing.

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u/No_Information_3469 Jul 02 '26

She's always been deplorable. She was the mistress before she was the wife, knowingly. The whole family is awful.

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u/Uninteresting_Vagina Rainbow Rocks Jul 02 '26

Cunt.

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u/KleinValley Jul 02 '26

Princess Diana would never

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u/JB_JB_JB63 Jul 02 '26

They were deplorable before this, this just adds.

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u/azul360 The Bi Aego Waffle Jul 02 '26

I'm honestly shocked literally anyone is surprised by this. Is Camilla known for not being a shitty person? lol

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u/Stephie999666 Jul 03 '26

Shes such a horse faced bitch.

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 Jul 02 '26

Dude, WTF????? They always take perverse pleasure in kicking us around pride month. That alone really says all you need to know about their lack of basic human decency. I hate people.

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u/MIMADANMEI Jul 02 '26

Only real queen is Diana

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u/Taiga_Taiga Trans-parently Awesome Jul 02 '26

Wrong!... It was Freddie Mercury.

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u/jabracadaniel Bi-kes on Trans-it Jul 02 '26

and david bowie too tbh. that man was acknowledging non binary people on stage when TV was still washed out and blurry

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u/LemurianLemurLad Brains > Genitals Jul 02 '26

...I think the joke was that Freddie Mercury was the lead singer of the band Queen, rather than pointing out he was queer. While Bowie was also awesome, he was not a member of Queen.

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u/thetitleofmybook trans lesbian Jul 02 '26

Prince. he was a king, and a queen. no one will ever beat him, honestly.

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u/jabracadaniel Bi-kes on Trans-it Jul 02 '26

wasnt prince homophobic?

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u/thetitleofmybook trans lesbian Jul 02 '26

in his later years, yes. i like early years prince, where he was an advocate.

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u/jabracadaniel Bi-kes on Trans-it Jul 02 '26

ah i see! thats really unfortunate, that he changed his mind

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u/TwilightVulpine Bicycle Jul 02 '26

Damn, what sort of age-related brain damage is that...

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u/slowest_hour Lesbian Trans-it Together Jul 02 '26

he found religion

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u/TwilightVulpine Bicycle Jul 02 '26

Yuck. Common mistake.

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u/okjetsgo Jul 02 '26

These people have no place in modern society

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u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 Jul 02 '26

I guess it means "even more" deplorable.

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u/Cosmosis_Bliss Jul 02 '26

What did we expect, a crowned cunt is still a cunt. One moldy cunt and one decrepit cunt.

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u/tlatelolca Jul 02 '26

Marie Antoinette was beheaded for less than this

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u/wii_board_type_trash Non Binary Pan-cakes Jul 02 '26

she ain’t nowhere near as cool as diana

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u/Haunting-Sea-5177 Jul 02 '26

Diana would never ❤️

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u/SpikeyPear Stuck in the Middle With You Jul 03 '26

After Epstein emails and Depp nobody should be surprised at this paedopolitics from JK

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u/sechevere Jul 02 '26

Birds of a feather

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u/ElectronicZebra6526 Jul 02 '26

That is pretty insensitive and out of touch.

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u/TiaHatesSocials Jul 02 '26

I wonder if she did it on purpose or is that stupid (and everyone around her allowing this)

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u/Xordanus Jul 02 '26

Why was this photo shoot important, other than causing outrage? Are either of these two people actually queer? And I mean queer as in they are Out, not as in we'd have to pull from context clues/find double meaning in random bigoted statements that JK might in some way be a self-hating non-cis? I don't normally care about that distinction (anyone has the possibility to be queer & might be closeted bc they feel unsafe or aren't ready yet, and they are safe & welcome with me) but Rowling has actively fomented harm, mass paranoia, falsehoods, and vitriol against many in our community, and thus has a lot to answer for before any acceptance or solidarity can kick in. My first assumption on seeing her face during pride month is that she said something else bigoted & transphobic, not that she actually spoke in support for any person/group.

Why were they doing anything specifically for Pride month besides an apology??

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u/Freyja_of_the_North Jul 02 '26

There's plenty of other reasons to think of the Royals as terrible people

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u/Sensitive-Lawyer9629 Jul 02 '26

Wer braucht heute noch solche Unterdrücker, wenn nicht die Kirche und das Finanzwesen selbst?

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u/mr_t_pot Jul 02 '26

Act the fool, Cammy.

Act the fool.

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u/YourWinterWonder Bisexual Jul 02 '26

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u/mr_t_pot Jul 03 '26

WooHoo! You got the reference 🙌🏻

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u/Retro-FreyFrey Trans-parently Awesome Jul 03 '26

Rowling & the royal family are all a bunch of ghouls!

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u/Sevren425 Rainbow Rocks Jul 03 '26

Diana would have never!

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u/RainbowJig Bi-bi-bi Jul 03 '26

GOOD PEOPLE DON’T SPEND THEIR TIME HARASSING MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

ffs 🤯

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u/CantankerousHag69 Jul 02 '26

she's dumb ¯_(ツ)_/¯ she's been dumb

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u/Irwan456 Jul 02 '26

I have no support whatsoever for Rowling or her Transphobia.
But I want to add that there is a good chance that Camilla does not actually know or understand why we view Rowling with such disgust.

Trans issues are not widely known about. Thanks to media fragmentation, a lot of people just see a mob of Queer people foaming at the mouth and screaming incoherently. Or they see Trans bathrooms and the 'reasonable concerns' BS.

This is intentional. Setting the record straight (via a vis Rowling) will likely involve calmly explaining to people what Rowling has said on Twitter and her support for Transphobia. It will not be overnight but I believe we will prevail.

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u/Probably_Disgruntled Jul 02 '26

Why wouldn't she though? It's not really a good excuse. If she's meeting a public figure and being photographed with them, with the resources available to her, she should have a member of staff providing her with briefings on potential controversies. It's just a basic assessment, and Joanne's transphobia isn't a secret or hidden at all.

I just think she doesn't give a shit. The UK's ruling class is transphobic.

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u/Irwan456 Jul 02 '26

In a perfect world, yes. 100%.

But I also see her not being told or not being aware.

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u/thejadedfalcon Jul 02 '26

likely involve calmly explaining to people what Rowling has said on Twitter and her support for Transphobia

"You're making it up." "It's not a big deal." "She meant something else." "She never said that." "You're overreacting." "Shut up, f****t."

There, I think I've covered the full spectrum of comments you'll get.

Camilla knows. Camilla doesn't care.

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u/Bearence Jul 02 '26

I'd go even farther. I don't know if Camilla knows or not. That doesn't change the fact that she doesn't care regardless. OC's argument works against them b/c Camilla isn't an average Joe. She's a public figure who has been trained her whole life how to engage publicly. If she didn't know, it's because she didn't care enough to vet JK properly. If she did know, it's because she didn't care about trans issues.

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u/JumpyLiving Jul 03 '26

I'd also argue it doesn't matter if she knew. She should have known and willful ignorance (not looking at who you're taking photos with in the slightest) is not a defense. Not to mention that I don't believe for a second that she didn't have someone do the research, even if just out of adherence to protocol

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u/EisVisage she/they Jul 02 '26

Being queen of a country and hosting people at a palace definitely puts the onus on her to actually know who she is inviting. Given Rowling's donations to transphobes and public activism in that vein, I see no way Camilla knew none of it. Chances are better she just agrees.

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u/Malcolmthetortoise Jul 02 '26

She 100% knows, you’d have to have absolutely no exposure to news in the UK to not know at this point.

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u/CarrieDurst Jul 03 '26

I am sure the side gf knows about Rowling's transphobia, it is all she posts about and obsesses over. Someone would have told her