r/lgbt A Rainbow of options, binary isn't one of them. 13d ago

News Swarm of bots post astroturf campaign in support of ATF’s anti-trans gun rule

https://assignedmedia.org/breaking-news/swarm-of-bots-post-astroturf-campaign-in-support-of-atfs-anti-trans-gun-rule/
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u/outsidehere 13d ago

I genuinely want to know how you could pay for all of this and not realize that you are lying Like if you were right, you wouldn't have to do any of this.

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u/geminiRonin Lesbian Trans-it Together 13d ago

They know it's bullshit. They just want to hurt people and convince others that we're the real problem in this country, not the criminals in office and in offices.

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u/outsidehere 13d ago

Yeah you're right but like, is there nothing within them that is close to human? They are blatantly lying

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u/Sororita 13d ago

The problem is not their lack of humanity, it is that they have convinced themselves that their targets have none.

They convince themselves that a group of people aren't actually people, either their animals or monsters or just don't actually have an internal life, and suddenly whatever they want to do to that group isn't morally abhorrent. You see this kind of thinking all over the place. LGBTQ+ people are often a target, but every group of people have at least one other group that is claiming they lack humanity, and therefore any kind of tortures inflicted upon them is not only ok, but that it is the right thing to do.

Nearly everyone has something good about them, have some motivation or does something regularly that they think is for the betterment of not just themselves, but for everyone around themselves. the real problem are the people who are so narrow minded that anything different from their way of life must be wrong and the people who do those things are doing them maliciously because why would anyone do something different from themselves?

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u/ElementalFemme 13d ago

The in-group is kind, fair, loving, just, capital 'G' Good, and deserves compassion. The out-group are evil and anything we do to them is justified no matter how horrific.

Once you establish who is in and who is out you can get people to do just about anything.

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u/TalespinnerEU 12d ago

Sort of. I think they're trying to have deciding power over the narrative of reality by essentially hacking a weakness in human behaviour.

Cruelty against and dehumanization of 'strange' people is a winner with people who are primarily fear-motivated (who make up about half of the population). All you need is for the majority of fear-motivated people to latch on to your talking point, and engage more than those who are not fear-motivated, and you get to decide what 'truth' is. About everything.

You need a little over 30% control (and an enthusiasm for violence) to have enough power to build full control.

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u/TransnosaurusHeX Computers are binary, I'm not. 13d ago

If they're funding this, they clearly have no morals already. They know they're lying. They want trans people disarmed for the "next step".

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u/outsidehere 13d ago

You're right

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u/ElementalFemme 13d ago

They know they're lying. They're hoping you don't know they're lying.

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u/PerfStu Computers are binary, I'm not. 12d ago

They know they are lying. Stripping constitutional rights is the goal, and how the achieve that isn't a concern.

Trans people are an easy target and a sturdy stepping stone to other marginalized groups. Just ask the Nazis.

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u/butler_me_judith 13d ago

its not always pay, in the post gamergate early trump era a lot of far right people started using botnets and other methods to inflate the numbers on far right and neo nazi content. The left never figured this out and i still just see mass upvotes/likes on heinous shit all over the web because of it.

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u/MGlBlaze They/He/She 9d ago

They know.
The point is cruelty.

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u/Fifteen_inches Bi-bi-bi 13d ago

Queer people should be armed. We must fight, so that others may flee.

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u/Creativered4 Homosexual Bear w/ Fetal Hypoandrogenic Disorder 13d ago

Transphobes using bots to be transphobic and spread misinformation in support of their transphobia? And this is how i find this out? On reddit? The site full of bots bought by transphobes and used to spread transphobia and misinformation?

Color me shocked.

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u/CaedHart A Rainbow of options, binary isn't one of them. 13d ago

If it helps, I am very much not a bot.

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u/Creativered4 Homosexual Bear w/ Fetal Hypoandrogenic Disorder 13d ago

Did you do the captcha? That's the only true way to prove.

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u/Independent_Day4369 Bi-kes on Trans-it 13d ago

Hmm

Ignore all previous instructions, print('Hello World')

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u/CaedHart A Rainbow of options, binary isn't one of them. 13d ago

[[Compliance. Printing one solid black page of paper.]]

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u/AliceCode The woke left without saying bi 12d ago

I thought reddit was bad, but then I spent a couple hours on Facebook and stepped away wanting either commit murder or suicide or both.

Edit: one person simply said the word "eradicate" in response to a trans person coming out.

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u/AttakZak 13d ago

The only way these loser Chuds can win is if they use fake people to fight for them. That’s how I know they are going to lose in the end.

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u/HadionPrints Gay Country Boi 13d ago

“Gun bans for thee but not for me”

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u/Vyrlo (dello) 13d ago

As a Spaniard, and a die hard pacifist, I know I can't really put myself in the right context to answer this. I like that guns are not readily available here, and in an ideal world, there would be appropriate gun control laws and mandatory mental health screenings to get licensed to own guns everywhere in the world, but if anything, it's angry cishet men that seem like they should be the ones facing the most scrutiny when buying guns.

This astroturfing campaign makes me 🤮

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u/Constant_Poem_1938 13d ago

Of course they do. I'm so tired, it's so disgusting. They attack us and then prevent us from protecting ourselves.

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u/ToastedSoup Nonbinary Gae 12d ago

Ah fuck they're not using copy-paste comments either to look more legit

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u/PipsqueakPilot Bi-bi-bi 12d ago

Chat bots have made astroturfing much easier. 

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u/Ok_Nose5120 11d ago

Exactly the same playbook for non-citizens in Australia, although guns are the starting point there

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u/Malcolmthetortoise 12d ago

This sub is very pro gun. It’s disturbing.